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Besides the fact that this adds a heavy tax to the deathstrike. Could these enhancements help the Deathstrike more viable?
Full payload could make the deathstrike powerful if it hits. I’m running Catachan so the hits can be rerolled.
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Shots* not hits.

Full Payload does not help a Deathstrike at all.

Indeed, if you're running Catachans/Gunnery Experts, there is no Tank Ace which can really improve a Deathstrike's killing power.

 MinMax wrote:
Full Payload does not help a Deathstrike at all.

Indeed, if you're running Catachans/Gunnery Experts, there is no Tank Ace which can really improve a Deathstrike's killing power.

How not? It does D3 damage, full payload will make it consistent 3s

I think you confuse the Deathstrike and Manticore. The deathstrike does mortal wounds

 Pyroalchi wrote:
I think you confuse the Deathstrike and Manticore. The deathstrike does mortal wounds

The initial hit rolls make that amount of mortal wounds.
But after that all models in a 6 inch radius get D3 mortal wounds or with the vortex stratagem D6.

Andredre wrote:

 Pyroalchi wrote:
I think you confuse the Deathstrike and Manticore. The deathstrike does mortal wounds

The initial hit rolls make that amount of mortal wounds.
But after that all models in a 6 inch radius get D3 mortal wounds or with the vortex stratagem D6.

That's not a damage roll, though.

That's a roll to see how many MW you do. A damage roll is a statistic on a weapon, not an ability.

 JNAProductions wrote:

Andredre wrote:

 Pyroalchi wrote:
I think you confuse the Deathstrike and Manticore. The deathstrike does mortal wounds

The initial hit rolls make that amount of mortal wounds.
But after that all models in a 6 inch radius get D3 mortal wounds or with the vortex stratagem D6.

That's not a damage roll, though.

That's a roll to see how many MW you do. A damage roll is a statistic on a weapon, not an ability.

It is a damage roll tho. You’re rolling D3 or D6 to determine how many mortal wounds are going to be allocated to an enemy model. But I’m guessing because it’s under its ability instead of the weapon profile that makes it ineligible. Which sucks.

Its not a damage roll. Its an ability from the weapon, thats not the same.

Your Deathstrike is never going to fire, why even bring it outside of narrative games where the launch of the missile is your win condition?

Seriously? Aside from being one of the few things in the galaxy that can kill a squad of Wulfen with a rune Priest, it's only a few hundred points, and makes a GREAT distraction for your opponent. Also it's a hilarious model idea. Even Gaunt talks about how only insane chaos worshippers would be mad enough to use Atomics, which is basically what the Deathstrike is.

I mean it has a 12' range. It can kill a full squad of Wulfen 3 tables away!

I would not say it is never going to fire. Put it in strategic reserves and bring it turn 3. It was funny back when only Tallarn could do it with a single one, now every regiment can do it with up to 3

 Pyroalchi wrote:
I would not say it is never going to fire. Put it in strategic reserves and bring it turn 3. It was funny back when only Tallarn could do it with a single one, now every regiment can do it with up to 3

On turn 3 you've got a 33% chance of it firing, by turn 4 a 50% change and on the last turn in 9th edition and because of the way scoring works you may not be able to score you've got a 66% chance of firing. Ive got one and they're fun but they aren't competitive in 9th edition frankly they are probably the worst unit in Astra Militarium's line-up.

Add in rerolls and you have a much better chance.

Can reroll neither does it fire nor mw amount. Or did pa give reroll ability?

The command reroll on the chance to fire is unfortunatly gone. I still think 1/3 chance dir that many mortal wounds has some value. And I think there are worse things in our Line-Up (at least in the index...)

So still, 3 of them in the backfield basically threaten anything in the game on turn 3.

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Deathstrike is still a waste of points.