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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Is there any reason to take cypher and a unit of fallen?

There are some load out options for fallen but no legion traits, is there any reason to take them over a normal CSM unit. Cypher doesn’t look like he gives and important buffs to fallen units.
   
Made in ca
Gargantuan Gargant






They're pretty much a purely flavour unit atm for Fallen, since Chosen are basically them but better since most legion traits do more for them and give them access to VoTLW.

Cypher is slightly better but also largely pointless since he doesn't synergize well with most CSM lists. We'll how they handle them in the future but as is they basically are fluff options for narrative games.
   
Made in us
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba






Yeah, they have no reason to exist unfortunately.

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
 
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