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Danmark

Hey guys. If someone has a dude in a house, at the top floor, maybe 10 inches up, and NO other unit is near, from his own army, are you allowed to deepstrike a unit at the bottom of the house, because its more than 9 inches away?

Because ive always been told that the 9 inches away for deepstrike is like a 2D circle around units, not a 3D bubble that would mean if the house was large enough, you could still Deepstrike inside of it. But this also mean if you sit in a house, and its a 2D circle, then there would technically be way more than 9 inches to reach the top if you deepstrike 9 inches away, then get to the building, then 10 inches to the top.


So can any of you lovely people explain how it works to me?


Because im watching this lovely chaps video:
and it just makes me question what i really know about deepstriking.

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Auckland, NZ

The right hand column on the first page of the core rulebook FAQ covers this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UCwQJcYgHo0Gztjk.pdf

Yes, it means being 9" away in 3d space. So if an enemy unit is on the top of a 10" ruin, then you could deepstrike a unit in directly below them.
Due to engagement range being 5" vertically in 9th, this also means that a charge out of deepstrike could then be significantly shorter than 9", depending on where the levels of the ruin are.
   
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Danmark

Arson Fire wrote:
The right hand column on the first page of the core rulebook FAQ covers this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UCwQJcYgHo0Gztjk.pdf

Yes, it means being 9" away in 3d space. So if an enemy unit is on the top of a 10" ruin, then you could deepstrike a unit in directly below them.
Due to engagement range being 5" vertically in 9th, this also means that a charge out of deepstrike could then be significantly shorter than 9", depending on where the levels of the ruin are.


you know what? thats pretty handy knowledge to have.

thanks

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Bergen

There has been talk based on pytagoras that standing high up makes it easier to charge you from reserve. ;-)

   
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Germany

Yes, if you deepstrike 9.1" away from an enemy unit which is 5" above the battlefield you only need a 7" charge.
   
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Bergen

In theory the same could be true if what deep strikes has flying. You can land high up. And when you charge you do not count the descent.

Or do you stil measure to and from base and need to get the full 9?

   
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Bristol (UK)

 Niiai wrote:
In theory the same could be true if what deep strikes has flying. You can land high up. And when you charge you do not count the descent.

Or do you stil measure to and from base and need to get the full 9?

Charging follows the same rules as movement.
Although iirc they changed FLY so that you now don't get to use it when charging. Precisely because people were deploying in buildings and getting easy charges.
   
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 Niiai wrote:
In theory the same could be true if what deep strikes has flying. You can land high up. And when you charge you do not count the descent.

Or do you stil measure to and from base and need to get the full 9?


Units with "Fly" do not ignore vertical distance in the Charge Phase (rules PDF page 20, "FLYING WHEN CHARGING"), they only do that in the Movement Phase (rules PDF page page 11, "FLYING").

So if you deep strike 9.1" above a unit you'd need to make a vertical move of 5" to get within 5" of the unit below you.

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