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Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

So we have a new player in our area and he was interested in trying out some warmachine so i split my khador up for a quick 25 point game. and he solo'd irusk with sorcha like a champ




Second round he borrowed some cygnar from another regular for a 50 point game.


It was a little silly since a large chunk of both our armies were immune to blast weapons-him for trenchers being trenchers in trenches and me for solid ground.

It ended up being the gun carriage that won the day for me. it circled around the back, managing to trample through a horde of trenchers and right over sloan.





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Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

Faced off against the crucible guard tonight. my friend picked up a new warcaster (in a tank)

I decided to go manOwar heavy with Irusk II to make things interesting.








The game was pretty bloody, and i think it would have gone worse for me had solid ground not made me immune to blast damage., even so near the end of the game it became something of a stalemate with his warcaster freezing any unit that got to close to her before she re-positioned away. i ended up just fighting off the rest of his army since i could not get to her.












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Uhlan




Love these posts, something about 25-50 points just seems right.

 
   
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Fixture of Dakka





I do really think 50 points is where they need to move the game.
   
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 LunarSol wrote:
I do really think 50 points is where they need to move the game.


or at least a good, defined and fully official smaller format a-la Brawlmachine and/or both a 25pt and 50pt format. That would work wonders for the game.

There was a thread on the FB general page about a theoretical Mk4 and so many people were calling for it. What disappointed me was the people vociferous advocating against smaller formats (75pt or die....). Why PP doesn't do this is beyond me. It requires no new models, just some new scenario packs and literature which they could test via online games. It would be a huge bang for their buck. But once again PP misses the opportunity that's right before them.
   
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The primary problem with 50 points right now is the SR scenarios just don't support it. They work so hard to stretch 75 points across the table that when you drop to 50 things just fall apart after the first engagement.

Hungerford tried to push for 50 in the SR release they were going to push before the lockdown started. Sadly, the community just shouted him down and kept insisting on the only way to play.
   
Made in us
Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

Problem solved-don't play SR scenarios. we don't and the game is fun.


or at least a good, defined and fully official smaller format a-la Brawlmachine and/or both a 25pt and 50pt format. That would work wonders for the game.


Our group also plays infantry machine-50 points-no warcasters and no jacks/warbeasts without a jackmarshal equivalent .

The concept is that in the universe warcasters are incredibly rare and valuable assets that only take to the field under the most demanding situations. the rest of the time the regular army fights without them.

This is my infantry machine force-








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The problem I've always had without scenario is there's nothing to force engagement. The game gets very kitey and small threat range advantages become game defining. As soon as someone realizes they can just back up the clash that makes the game really exciting kind of vanishes. It's fun, but lacks a lot of the tension that makes the game stand out in SR.
   
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Destructive Daemon Prince





Albany, NY

 LunarSol wrote:
Hungerford tried to push for 50 in the SR release they were going to push before the lockdown started. Sadly, the community just shouted him down and kept insisting on the only way to play.
I did not know this! I loved me some 50 pts back in 2E, one of the reasons I faded away from the game was the bloat up to 75 solidified and pushed my collection out. I've spent most of Quarantine trying to get the oomph to paint up 75 pts in a new faction, now mustering the urge to aim for 50

Thanks for the reports!

KOW BATREPS: BLOODFIRE
INSTAGRAM: @boss_salvage 
   
Made in us
Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

 LunarSol wrote:
The problem I've always had without scenario is there's nothing to force engagement. The game gets very kitey and small threat range advantages become game defining. As soon as someone realizes they can just back up the clash that makes the game really exciting kind of vanishes. It's fun, but lacks a lot of the tension that makes the game stand out in SR.


Never had that problem, when we play for fun we are not just trying to play keep away.

Hopefully our cygnar/circle orboros player will get some games in against the crucible guard this weekend so you can see some different battles.

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 Boss Salvage wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
Hungerford tried to push for 50 in the SR release they were going to push before the lockdown started. Sadly, the community just shouted him down and kept insisting on the only way to play.
I did not know this! I loved me some 50 pts back in 2E, one of the reasons I faded away from the game was the bloat up to 75 solidified and pushed my collection out. I've spent most of Quarantine trying to get the oomph to paint up 75 pts in a new faction, now mustering the urge to aim for 50

Thanks for the reports!


75 in MK3 is roughly the same as 50 was in MK2. During the transition, they doubled the points of everything (often -1) so like a 2 points solo became 3-4 points and 7 point Warjacks ended up being 13-14. The reason 75 points is still the same size despite this is they put a bunch more points into caster warjack points. So where MK2 was around 56 points including WJP, MK3 is doubled to 103ish points after WJP plus about 15 points in free solos or attachments. I have a few lists that actually translated exactly after the free solos were added. 50 point games in MK3 would be pretty close to MK2's 35 point formats.

The main source of growth in army size for MK3 has been drops in unit points over the edition. You can still find units in every faction that are closer to the original values, but as the edition has gone on a LOT of units have dropped in points considerably, which has bloated up the game and put a HUGE divide between models that have gone through CID and those that have not.
   
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Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

I was playing my own game a few table down so i only got a few pictures of this battle

circle orboros wolf themed army VS an infantry heavy crucible guard.

with Kaya the wildheart VS the marshal general gearhart-





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Uhlan




Very cool!

 
   
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Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

Another quick update. our circle player did a battle against legion












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And people said that with lockdowns everybody would have plenty of time to paint their armies...
   
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Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

Well in all honesty the guy playing legion usually paints almost nothing for any game he plays, he just wants to play so he tends to have lots of plastic grey armies. he also literally just bought several of his minis this week so he could get his army up and running. not complaining though it gets him to play something other than 40K.


The circle player does fantastic work when he does paint stuff, he is still deciding on what paint scheme he wants for his circle army.




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Made in us
Grumpy Longbeard





washington state USA

Even more battle

One of our regulars got gifted a trencher cygnar army so after adding a few more units to his force we had a little battle action against our legion player.


It started out well for cygnar but legion managed to turn it around in the last 2 turns. there was no caster kill but cygnar was forced to retreat.
















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