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2021/03/27 17:33:16
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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In the new Codex Drukhari, Lelith Hesperax has a Melee weapon with an ability that reads “Each time an attack is made with this weapon, an unmodified hit roll of 6 scores one additional hit.”
If Lelith is also your Warlord, or otherwise gains a Warlord Trait, she must take (per p.72) the “Blood Dancer” trait (p.58) which says “Each time this WARLORD makes a melee attack, an unmodified hit roll of 6 scores 2 additional hits.”
By my reading, that means if she hits with a natural six when using that weapon, she actually scores four hits (the original hit, plus 1 for the innate ability of the weapon, plus 2 for the Warlord Trait because sits a melee attack) because those two abilities are not mutually exclusive.
Does anyone else have a different view?
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2021/03/27 17:39:47
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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That tracks, I don’t remember there being a limit on how many things can trigger off of one roll.
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2021/03/27 18:49:37
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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From what I was reading and watching on youtube, she can put out a disgusting number of attacks per phase. Only problem is getting her there. Someone on youtube, Auspex Tactics had her doing up to 16 hits per turn. Which is insane, considering what she can do to infantry, already.
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2021/03/27 19:11:21
Subject: Re:[Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Confessor Of Sins
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This is absolutely correct. If she has the Blood Dancer Warlord Trait, each unmodified 6 to Hit gains three additional hits, two from Blood Dancer and one for Letith's Blades. Given her 7 attacks and WS 2+, she will average 10ish hits each times she fights. However, her spike potential is crazy, especially when she is attacking a character allowing her to reroll her attacks and fish for 6's.
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2021/03/27 19:20:47
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Well, she gets 7 attacks base and can fight twice if she kills someone with the first seven attacks so that’s a possible (likely, even) 14 attacks. And then she can potentially multiply that into 4 hits per attack for a total of 56 hits possible in a single phase.
Admittedly they’re “only” S4 AP-1 but that’s a whole lotta dice. In theory.
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2021/03/27 19:45:36
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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Whats the damage on her blades?
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2021/03/27 19:46:21
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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One. They’re S4 AP-3 D1.
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2021/03/27 19:50:26
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
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So 56 attacks may end up equalling like 4 damage after all is done. She's great against orks, AM, Sisters, and zerg, but I'd love to see how she performs against an all Primaris Army. If her blades were D2 or there was a way to give her D2. that would be awesome.
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2021/03/27 20:20:12
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Lord of the Fleet
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The blades are Ap-3 basic, and become -4 on a wound roll of 6 however. Not much but every little helps.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/03/27 20:20:54
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2021/03/27 20:54:22
Subject: [Drukhari] How many hits does Lelith get?
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Confessor Of Sins
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:So 56 attacks may end up equalling like 4 damage after all is done. She's great against orks, AM, Sisters, and zerg, but I'd love to see how she performs against an all Primaris Army. If her blades were D2 or there was a way to give her D2. that would be awesome.
My quick math indicates that due to her 4 hits on a 6, she does and average of 3.83 Wounds to T4 Sv 3+ without taking into account her occasional AP -4 Attack. So nearly two Primaris Marines. Follow up with a second set of attacks and she's taken a 5-Model squad down to 1-2 models. No Drazhar, but respectable. And don't forget she can consolidate out of Engagement Range and then Pile-In for her second set of attacks.
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