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So we have a thread about Lelith "bigfoot" hesperax vs a custode. It kinda expanded into Lelith vs some characters.

Ok, if you could either see a story about character X vs character Y, or run a special tabletop battle with them, who would you want to see going at it?

While not named characters I think a hexmark destroyer vs a kellermorph would by a good matchup. Hails of plutonium bullets vs a barrage of disintegrator blasts.

Guilleman vs Thrakka one on one could be fun, since each is essentially the epitome of their race, I.E. humanity vs orks.

Magnus the red vs uncle morty is an obvious choice. The destroyer vs the architect.

And Kharne vs lucius is one you just can't call. Brute screaming axe wielding rage vs the elegant sophisticated dancing swordsman. Also, it's like either lucius kills kharne and does unspeakable things to his corpse, or kharne kills lucius and becomes lucius.




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Not wishing to be overly negative, but I dislike character vs character fights, because GW is unwilling to kill anyone off permanently. The stakes are basically non-existent, and the winner will inevitably be the character without an obvious means of returning from the dead.

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I'd personally like to see Guilliman vs Angron, or Magnus vs Angron, hell, even Valdor (since he's likely alive) standing up to one of the remaining traitor primarchs in an unexpected storyline would be fun to read about, or a "feast of blades"-ish competition between some of the legendary chapter masters, for instance, having Calgar engage either Dante or Azrael in meele would be interesting.
Another rematch between Jain Zar and Arhra/Drazhar would be nice as well.
(Well, we already know a Hesperax vs Lucius fight is likely on the way, but...I still doubt it'd happen)

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When it comes to primarchs, I'd like to see Angron vs Vulkan. Vulkan is often underestimated and it would be interesting to see how his brute strength would play out against Angron who's also a brute himself.

Of astartes, Tyberos the Red Wake vs Asterion Moloch. People often label Asterion as an easy winner due to his supposed custodian/thunder warrior heritage, but I think the fight would be a lot closer than most people think. Tyberos is afterall, a chapter master of Carcharodons and on top of that extremely fast for someone in terminator armour.

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I would love to see Snikrot vs Marbo.

Whilst the joke would have Snikrot dead before Marbo even woke up, the idea of two incredibly stealthy and incredibly deadly characters trying to out-sneak each other would make for a very cool fight.

A cunning lictor vs someone regarded as very powerful (EG ghazzie, guilliman) who is just getting more and more frustrated at the repeated hit & run attacks from the lictor would be good fun too. Especially if the powerful person in question is trying to sneak up on the enemy, so can't just shoot everything!

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Jain vs Cain

She has preternatural speed, and skill, and centuries of reflexes honed to a razor's edge.

Cain's got Cain luck, a rusty chainsword, half a tin of sakra. And his trusty adjutant with a melta gun. But he did defeat a black legion Astartes Veteran in a sword duel, and Amberlee says he's possibly the single greatest human swordsman in the imperium.....so..
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Jain vs Cain

She has preternatural speed, and skill, and centuries of reflexes honed to a razor's edge.

Cain's got Cain luck, a rusty chainsword, half a tin of sakra. And his trusty adjutant with a melta gun. But he did defeat a black legion Astartes Veteran in a sword duel, and Amberlee says he's possibly the single greatest human swordsman in the imperium.....so..

I think we can look at this with two perspectives, firstly, Jain Zar is roughly on par with Drazhar, and we all know that Drazhar singlehandedly dispatched three custodes. Other than that, even on Jain's (seriously, who in their right mind thought naming an eldar "jain" is a good idea?) worst day (worst day as in plot-induced-stupidity), she was cutting down night lords (yeah. veterans included) like grass. We also knew that she defeated the Masque and dueled other greater daemons in the fracture of biel-tan.
Logically, no matter how good Cain is with a chainsword, he'd die. But who am I trying to fool here? We all know with how much plot armor he possesses, Cain would probably make Jain Zar stomp on some catachan banana peels, and kill her with a grenade.
A more balanced fight would be Jain Zar vs Hesperax (there was that one time when Zar mused on fighting in the arenas of commorragh and thought she might die there, and of course there was another instance in phoenix rising where jain got tagged by helbane while hesperax dodged every slash, based on the reputations of the two of them, they might be roughly on par with each other, with zar normally having the better armor and gear), or Trajaan Valoris vs juiced up Abaddon with that daemon sword activated.

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 harlokin wrote:
Not wishing to be overly negative, but I dislike character vs character fights, because GW is unwilling to kill anyone off permanently. The stakes are basically non-existent, and the winner will inevitably be the character without an obvious means of returning from the dead.


agreed. if we see any character vs character fights I'd rather see it be general vs general. Gulliman vs Ghaz for example would be intreasting if it was a generalship issue and they never took the field against one another, just for example


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 Cognitive wrote:
FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Jain vs Cain

She has preternatural speed, and skill, and centuries of reflexes honed to a razor's edge.

Cain's got Cain luck, a rusty chainsword, half a tin of sakra. And his trusty adjutant with a melta gun. But he did defeat a black legion Astartes Veteran in a sword duel, and Amberlee says he's possibly the single greatest human swordsman in the imperium.....so..

I think we can look at this with two perspectives, firstly, Jain Zar is roughly on par with Drazhar, and we all know that Drazhar singlehandedly dispatched three custodes. Other than that, even on Jain's (seriously, who in their right mind thought naming an eldar "jain" is a good idea?) worst day (worst day as in plot-induced-stupidity), she was cutting down night lords (yeah. veterans included) like grass. We also knew that she defeated the Masque and dueled other greater daemons in the fracture of biel-tan.
Logically, no matter how good Cain is with a chainsword, he'd die. But who am I trying to fool here? We all know with how much plot armor he possesses, Cain would probably make Jain Zar stomp on some catachan banana peels, and kill her with a grenade.
A more balanced fight would be Jain Zar vs Hesperax (there was that one time when Zar mused on fighting in the arenas of commorragh and thought she might die there, and of course there was another instance in phoenix rising where jain got tagged by helbane while hesperax dodged every slash, based on the reputations of the two of them, they might be roughly on par with each other, with zar normally having the better armor and gear), or Trajaan Valoris vs juiced up Abaddon with that daemon sword activated.


A Cain vs Jain Zar fight would go as follows.

"I took up my trusty chainsword with my ever faithful gunner Jurgen behind me the melta gun at the ready... the eldar came at us fast, blindingly so, I was thrown off guard and fled in a panic, the eldar chasing me down.. suddenly a loud "clonk!" was heard... somehow the eldar had stepped on a rake and knocked ehrself quite unconciouss.. when I returned to the mess word had somehow spread in advance that I had single handed defeated the eldar in a fierce sword dual to the death"

(let's face it. that WOULD be classic Cain)

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^seems aboit right, and better than the “catachan banana peel” scenario.

Guys, how about a final confrontation between warp! Corax and lorgarbage?
   
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I want to see more fights between Guard and X faction with actual realistic depictions of warfare. With proper tactics, and logistics.

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Jarms48 wrote:
I want to see more fights between Guard and X faction with actual realistic depictions of warfare. With proper tactics, and logistics.


in 40k? good luck.

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BrianDavion wrote:
Jarms48 wrote:
I want to see more fights between Guard and X faction with actual realistic depictions of warfare. With proper tactics, and logistics.


in 40k? good luck.


Sir, we've located the enemy in these co-ordinates!

...and?

...aaaaand the bombs will have just landed from orbit, another successful campaign sir!

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I'd like to see Valdor vs Abaddon, bring back some familiar Custodes.

   
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^Ends in a couple moments with Valdor impaling Abaddon with his spear.
Valdor is hinted to be primarch tier and the only threat here would be failbaddon’s daemon sword, but failbaddon is a proud douche and rarely uses the thing at the beginning as seen in his confrontation with Calgar.

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Arhiman v. Typhus ! I can't even explain why but I just want to see them fight and see who makes it out alive

   
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X vs Y fights in 40k are more pointless than X vs Y fights in almost any other universe because the level of plot armor enjoyed by the protagonist faction is enough to make a Naruto Vs Rey Skywalker fight seem like a reasonable, objective comparison.

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Didn't Valdor lose a fight to Lorgar, and that was after Valdor ambushed him, and the primarch had no armor or weapon. Hardly "primarch tier".

His only standard in the lore was when he "bested" horus in a friendly practice sparring match.
   
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^When did Valdor lose to Lorgar?
Also, Valdor has been implied to have fought several primarchs in sparring matches, and on prospero he literally butchered a bunch of pre-cog marines with only minor injuries.

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 harlokin wrote:
Not wishing to be overly negative, but I dislike character vs character fights, because GW is unwilling to kill anyone off permanently. The stakes are basically non-existent, and the winner will inevitably be the character without an obvious means of returning from the dead.
Happened with the Imperial Assassins vs Tau named characters - in showdowns between the notoriously slow-reactions of the tau and the barely visible blurs of the assassins you get the three designated survivors winning due to out-reacting the assassins, while the designated loser has their assassin slow-walk up to them unopposed.

So perhaps the 'best' matchup would be the weakest named character with plot armour facing off against the strongest non-armoured character, just to see the ass-pull required. An'ggrath the unbound vs Darkstrider in a knife fight...

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Sir, we've located the enemy in these co-ordinates!

...and?

...aaaaand the bombs will have just landed from orbit, another successful campaign sir!


That's the navy, unfortunately...

Guard would be like...

Recon elements far ahead of the mainforce. Discovers enemy location. Radios in location to their company/regiment command. Who both organise their own indigenous forces to meet the enemy and also relay the enemies coordinates to a nearby artillery company.

5 - 7 minutes later, if the fire mission is unplanned, the field is filled with craters. Recon elements confirm kill. If still alive expect another fire mission in the next 1 - 2 minutes.

Soon after the main Guard body meets the enemy and finishes off the stragglers.


in 40k? good luck.


I'll forward my resume to Black Library and write it myself then dammit! Lol.

 Cognitive wrote:

Trajaan Valoris vs juiced up Abaddon with that daemon sword activated.


With Cadia being destroyed and the Great Rift opening I wouldn't mind the Chaos gods just ditching Abaddon at this point and letting him die. Replace him with one of the undivided Chaos primarchs.
   
 
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