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This is referring to the Imperial Guard 3rd edition, second codex within 4th edition rules. Hopefully someone can remember/has access to the FAQ for the answer to this question from the time!

Essentially, can an Imperial Guard unit with a vox caster use the leadership of an officer in a command squad equipped with a vox caster, if that command squad is embarked within a transport vehicle? Specifically a Chimera.

The default rules for 4th edition are that units within transports count as being off the board, so cannot use special rules unless the specifically grant exceptions to this. The vox rules allow the vox to be used when the command squad is in reserve, so off the table:

IG second codex 3rd edition, pg 36 wrote:You may choose to use the vox-caster at any time (eg. when an eligible squad is about to take a Leadership test, even if the Command unit is in reserve).

In the same vein, can Improved Comms be used when the vehicle with the improved comms is off the table? Can it also be used to re-roll successful reserve rolls? The following text supports the latter:

IG second codex 3rd edition, pg 36 wrote:...the improved comms allow the Imperial Guard player to re-roll one Reserves roll per turn...

Essentially I am looking at ways the vox can be used when the command squad is not directly targetable. In a transport is one. In reserve, re-rolling successful reserve rolls to keep it there is another. I am aware voxes kinda suck in this codex, but I am looking at ways to get the most out of them.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answer to this :thumbs-up:

Mods, please move if better suited in YMDC.

I have to codex but sadly no longer have the faq. So I'm not sure how it may have been faq'd if then even decided it needed an answer. Best I can do is recommend a house rule for it or a roll off before the start of deployment.

I do hope some one has the faq. I would also like to know the answer.

If you are playing 4th Ed in 2023 do you really need FAQs?

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
If you are playing 4th Ed in 2023 do you really need FAQs?

Haighus apparently wants them. Is that ok with you?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
If you are playing 4th Ed in 2023 do you really need FAQs?

Haighus apparently wants them. Is that ok with you?

Fair point. I was just finding it humorous that somebody would worry about an official FAQ for a rules-set from five editions ago.

So I apologize.

- to the OP, my answer was the opposite of helpful! Sorry!

I checked in my Chapter Approved: 2004, which has a large FAQ section, but I didn't find anything for Vox Casters. But it doesn't mention that 3.5 IG codex either, only Codex Armageddon. As a note, the 3.5 IG book was published in 2003. It's possible that it didn't have enough time to percolate through to an official FAQ by the time the CA: 2004 though.

I tried!

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/gaming_and_diversion/Warhammer_40K_Collection/Warhammer%2040k%20-%20Codex%20-%20Errata%20-%20Imperial%20Guard%20Q&A%20v1.0.pdf

Jarms48 wrote:
https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/gaming_and_diversion/Warhammer_40K_Collection/Warhammer%2040k%20-%20Codex%20-%20Errata%20-%20Imperial%20Guard%20Q&A%20v1.0.pdf

You absolute chad!

Skimmed and couldn't find an answer for the op. Props regardless, though.

TangoTwoBravo wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
If you are playing 4th Ed in 2023 do you really need FAQs?

Haighus apparently wants them. Is that ok with you?

Fair point. I was just finding it humorous that somebody would worry about an official FAQ for a rules-set from five editions ago.

So I apologize.

- to the OP, my answer was the opposite of helpful! Sorry!

No worries Kind of a combination of morbid curiosity and obsession at this point! I find early GW FAQs interesting because they tend to give more of a rationale for their reasoning.

It is absolutely not necessary, but more of a fun deep-dive.

Insectum7 wrote:I checked in my Chapter Approved: 2004, which has a large FAQ section, but I didn't find anything for Vox Casters. But it doesn't mention that 3.5 IG codex either, only Codex Armageddon. As a note, the 3.5 IG book was published in 2003. It's possible that it didn't have enough time to percolate through to an official FAQ by the time the CA: 2004 though.

I tried!

Thanks! I checked out Chapter Approved 2002 and 2003 too, because the rules for comm links are worded identically in the 1999 Imperial Guard codex- nothing there either!

Jarms48 wrote:https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/gaming_and_diversion/Warhammer_40K_Collection/Warhammer%2040k%20-%20Codex%20-%20Errata%20-%20Imperial%20Guard%20Q&A%20v1.0.pdf

Amazing! Thanks

Insectum7 wrote:
You absolute chad!

Skimmed and couldn't find an answer for the op. Props regardless, though.

It answers one bit- improved comms can be used by a vehicle in reserves. But yes, nothing about vox casters.

It seems no one asked them at the time! Maybe no one used voxes enough to think about it...

My reading of improved comms is that it can be used to reroll any result, incl. successful ones. The vox rules does say "at any time" and gives an example where the commander is off the board. Logically, it should function and gives a tiny bit more value to a vox network. Vox working within a Chimera is also in keeping with the lore.

Obviously any 4th edition game will need a lot of discussion beforehand anyhow I do think it is fluffy for my company captain to be commanding from the rear, then arriving to shore up a platoon in a key section of the battlefield in person.

Not sure if there’s another. I only remembered there was one in a WD article.

TangoTwoBravo wrote:
If you are playing 4th Ed in 2023 do you really need FAQs?

Indeed. Who is going to argue?

You want to play edition as it was played rather than make your own?

Shock horror somebody wanting to play actual 4th ed. The unthinkable horror!

 Haighus wrote:
This is referring to the Imperial Guard 3rd edition, second codex within 4th edition rules. Hopefully someone can remember/has access to the FAQ for the answer to this question from the time!

Essentially, can an Imperial Guard unit with a vox caster use the leadership of an officer in a command squad equipped with a vox caster, if that command squad is embarked within a transport vehicle? Specifically a Chimera.

The default rules for 4th edition are that units within transports count as being off the board, so cannot use special rules unless the specifically grant exceptions to this. The vox rules allow the vox to be used when the command squad is in reserve, so off the table:

IG second codex 3rd edition, pg 36 wrote:You may choose to use the vox-caster at any time (eg. when an eligible squad is about to take a Leadership test, even if the Command unit is in reserve).

In the same vein, can Improved Comms be used when the vehicle with the improved comms is off the table? Can it also be used to re-roll successful reserve rolls? The following text supports the latter:

IG second codex 3rd edition, pg 36 wrote:...the improved comms allow the Imperial Guard player to re-roll one Reserves roll per turn...

Essentially I am looking at ways the vox can be used when the command squad is not directly targetable. In a transport is one. In reserve, re-rolling successful reserve rolls to keep it there is another. I am aware voxes kinda suck in this codex, but I am looking at ways to get the most out of them.

Thanks in advance if anyone knows the answer to this :thumbs-up:

Mods, please move if better suited in YMDC.

The ability to use it when the unit is in reserves is clarifying the "at any time" part of the vox caster, therefore it should extend to units within transports as well because the vox caster can be used at any time. The improved comms however lacks the "at any time" part of the vox caster's text and therefore should not be interpreted the same way. Go back to the basic rules of 4th edition which you say means that units not on the board cannot use their abilities unless otherwise stated.

Edit: The ruling saying something different makes no sense, but GW wrote rules text that was hard to understand before 9th so I don't feel bad about my "wrong" interpretation. It should have had an errata, much like many things in 8th edition 40k when GW changed the rules through FAQ which isn't really proper procedure. The snarky answer on the Honorifica answer is also very unprofessional, seems like something I'd write.