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Hi all, does anyone use the CMY colour wheel when painting and do you have any good example you can share? I think CMY is even more useful now that people are using inks/speed paints a lot more
   
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I'm not really sure what you're looking for here? CMY/CMYK is a print and digital color system that doesn't apply to miniatures. You aren't painting your miniatures with varying levels of 3 or 4 standard inks, and you certainly aren't using the tiny dots of the typical CMY/CMYK print system.

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I haven't done it myself, but i know i've seen videos on YouTube about it. Dana Howl did one for sure, and i'm sure there are others as well


   
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I've used it when painting busts and larger scale display miniatures and it works well but you need to practice your color theory!
   
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 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
I'm not really sure what you're looking for here? CMY/CMYK is a print and digital color system that doesn't apply to miniatures. You aren't painting your miniatures with varying levels of 3 or 4 standard inks, and you certainly aren't using the tiny dots of the typical CMY/CMYK print system.


CMYK is not (merely) a print system and even more so not a digital system. CMYK tetrad are substractive mixing primary colours and having only those four paints you can mix (not entirely) any colour (you can’t mix very bright and intense colours, and you also need white if you’re not painting on a white canvas). It is very common for poor arts students to only buy this tetrad + some important tertiary colours and paint with only 6-7 tubes of paint. In miniatures painting world, CMYK + white is a way to go if you want to try oils to paint one-offs. You could use only CMYK primaries to paint armies, but you would need to pre-mix your main colours for consistency, so you might as well buy them pre-mixed already.

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I painted this mini with yellow contrast and then painted the rock in the and and the crystals at the base with cyan contrast paint and got a nice jade green. This is why I think people could be using CMY to do cool things with contrast paints
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nou wrote:
CMYK is not (merely) a print system and even more so not a digital system. CMYK tetrad are substractive mixing primary colours and having only those four paints you can mix (not entirely) any colour (you can’t mix very bright and intense colours, and you also need white if you’re not painting on a white canvas). It is very common for poor arts students to only buy this tetrad + some important tertiary colours and paint with only 6-7 tubes of paint. In miniatures painting world, CMYK + white is a way to go if you want to try oils to paint one-offs. You could use only CMYK primaries to paint armies, but you would need to pre-mix your main colours for consistency, so you might as well buy them pre-mixed already.


I guess you could do that but it seems like a much more difficult way of doing things. And it would be especially difficult in a miniatures context, where you're trying to maintain consistency across entire units/armies and hand-mixing from primary colors makes it very difficult to do that.

(And yes, CMYK is a digital system because the primary use of CMYK is in print and the source files for printing are done in digital form in the modern age. If you're doing digital work for the relevant print applications you're working with the CMYK color space.)


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mrFickle wrote:
I painted this mini with yellow contrast and then painted the rock in the and and the crystals at the base with cyan contrast paint and got a nice jade green. This is why I think people could be using CMY to do cool things with contrast paints


But wouldn't it have been easier to use a jade green contrast paint? It seems like trying to layer primary colors is defeating the purpose of contrast paints: the single-layer "instant tabletop standard" effect. CMYK is a great system when you have a limited number of inks that can fit within the printer mechanism, it's kind of silly when you can have 50 different pots of paint and go straight to the exact color you want.

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I don’t think I would have got that finish with a single contrast paint. I have found success layering RGB inks aswell to give a more solid finish, rather than having the primer highlight colour you get a smother transition of colour in the contrast (example attached)

I have also seen 1 video (quite some time ago) of someone blending CMY inks using an airbrush to get some cool lighting effects. Which is another reason why I was hoping for more examples.
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nou wrote:
 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
I'm not really sure what you're looking for here? CMY/CMYK is a print and digital color system that doesn't apply to miniatures. You aren't painting your miniatures with varying levels of 3 or 4 standard inks, and you certainly aren't using the tiny dots of the typical CMY/CMYK print system.


CMYK is not (merely) a print system and even more so not a digital system. CMYK tetrad are substractive mixing primary colours and having only those four paints you can mix (not entirely) any colour (you can’t mix very bright and intense colours, and you also need white if you’re not painting on a white canvas). It is very common for poor arts students to only buy this tetrad + some important tertiary colours and paint with only 6-7 tubes of paint. In miniatures painting world, CMYK + white is a way to go if you want to try oils to paint one-offs. You could use only CMYK primaries to paint armies, but you would need to pre-mix your main colours for consistency, so you might as well buy them pre-mixed already.


You also cannot do true violet with CMY, only purple. Violet isn't visible on most screen displays for the same reason, and is approximated as purple.

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