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So I have started a Blood Angels army and I really want to make properly organized company. A particularly confusing aspect is the squad marking they, especially in relation to veterans. Do units such as sternguard, terminators and command squads get a squad marking? Are they part of a company or are they all members of first company?

It's really nerdy and I know it doesn't matter. But maybe someone here has attempted such a thing with their own force.

Sternguard do have squad markings, displayed on the knee. As they are 1st Company they should have a white skull on the right pauldron, although GW seems to have abandoned that due to shoulder pads being covered in extra bling.
Power armoured veterans used to have yellow helmets, but that was replaced by gold when Sternguard were added to the lineup.

Terminators shouldn't have squad markings (squads were marked by the sergeant's banner once upon a time), however some of the models used in official publications are non-studio models which do have the markings on the knees, and this error has found it's way into descriptions of heraldry, which is annoying.

Honour Guard acting in the role of a standard Company command squad are depicted without squad markings, but with veteran markings.
Presumably if a squad was lifted from standard duty to act as an honour guard to a VIP they would retain their standard squad and company markings.
Honour Guard have gold helmets.

There's a whole lot of other confusion with depictions of Terminator markings: for example, sometimes they replace Chapter symbols with personal heraldry, sometimes they have a black left forearm, sometimes the Ancient has a black helmet...

The long and short of it is, it depends. Are we talking current 10th edition lore here? Seems like every edition's interpretation on these things varies, contradicts Insignum Astartes, and so on. Probably the best course of action for you is to look up as much info on the subject as you can, and then choose what suits you best.

 tauist wrote:
The long and short of it is, it depends. Are we talking current 10th edition lore here? Seems like every edition's interpretation on these things varies, contradicts Insignum Astartes, and so on. Probably the best course of action for you is to look up as much info on the subject as you can, and then choose what suits you best.

At this point, the only thing mentioned in the codex is squad markings. Lexicanum has been some help with things like companies, battleline types and some rough numbers. I have a captain Tycho model, so I'm working on building a 3rd company of The Ironhelms. But veterans, especially terminators, are a point of vagueness. Their all supposed to be in first company I guess?

Terminator squads are always first company, in every blood angels codex or other resource.

Any company can make honour guard squads. These marines have gold helmets because any regular brother in any squad of any company can be given veteran rank, which means brother+, without leaving his squad.

In an official GW Twitch stream, a GW studio painter describes painting first company bladeguard squads from non-blood ángel chapters in other companies’ colours just so they match. Those blade guard are still all first company though. This isn’t important for Blood Angel Terminators since they have no available shoulder to put a battle company blood drop.

Blood Angel veterans have gold helmets. They have as far back as 2nd I believe. Most certainly in 3rd.
Red helmets for troop choices (now battleline), blue for heavy support (now fire support), and yellow for Assault units (now close support).
Third company has a red shoulder with red trim. The icon of 3rd company is a single white blood drop.
Squads are represented by icons and colors on the right knee.

In older lore, all members of 1st company are veterans. Terminators Honors refered to a veteran having earned the right to wear Terminator armor but that doesn't mean they get to use it all the time, only when needed by the chapter. Before retcons it was widely held that each chapter only had a maximum of 50 suits of Terminator armor that would be shared among the veterans. Obviously a few suits would be dedicated solely to HQs. The exception to that 50 limit were the Dark Angels who (again older lore) were in the process of replacing power armor with Terminator armor almost at the exact same time as the Heresy beginning.
I believe there was mention of The Sons of Horus and The Dark Angels being the first to receive the new and improved Invictus pattern suits in bulk.

So when you include any veterans in your army (including the terminators) they're an attachment from 1st company assigned to whatever company the bulk of your force is.
So, for example, the Ultramarines 4th company has green as it's company color. Their shoulders are trimmed in green and any vehicles in their company would have green markings. However if you had collected an army of 4th company with Urial Ventres and included vanguard l, Sternguard and terminators... They would have the white helmets and trim of the 1st company.

I know its official Canon, but I personally hated the "color play" of the various helmets and shoulderpad trims. Some of the company colors in the ofc lore clash heavily with the main color, resulting in an eyesore

Uptonius wrote:
Blood Angel veterans have gold helmets. They have as far back as 2nd I believe. Most certainly in 3rd.

The change to gold only happened in 5th.

In 3rd and 4th editions, the Veteran Assault Squads had yellow helmets (presumably because 'assault'). Only Honour Guard had gold helmets.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Uptonius wrote:
Blood Angel veterans have gold helmets. They have as far back as 2nd I believe. Most certainly in 3rd.

The change to gold only happened in 5th.

In 3rd and 4th editions, the Veteran Assault Squads had yellow helmets (presumably because 'assault'). Only Honour Guard had gold helmets.

I thought you were wrong. Then I checked my old codex's. You are correct. Though I can't find my 5th edition blood angels codex.

Fun fact: the 4th ed. Codex was so low effort that the pictured Veteran Assault Marine is actually just one of the regular Assault Marine models, but with a skull shoulder pad pictured next to him.

The 4th Edition Blood Angel Codex was so low effort, it was a White Dwarf article.

Tygre wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Uptonius wrote:
Blood Angel veterans have gold helmets. They have as far back as 2nd I believe. Most certainly in 3rd.

The change to gold only happened in 5th.

In 3rd and 4th editions, the Veteran Assault Squads had yellow helmets (presumably because 'assault'). Only Honour Guard had gold helmets.

I thought you were wrong. Then I checked my old codex's. You are correct. Though I can't find my 5th edition blood angels codex.

Oh you're talking about Veteran Assault Squads.
I was talking about actual Veteran marines like the Honor Guard, Dante, and Tycho. 'Cause they're veterans... With gold helmets. Definitely 3rd though.
Strange too cause in the 3rd edition codex they constantly label the assault squad as a veteran squad until they need a pic of them both at the same time.
The idea of veterans in blood angels is kind of stupid anyway since they'll fall to the black rage before then anyway lol

 tauist wrote:
I know its official Canon, but I personally hated the "color play" of the various helmets and shoulderpad trims. Some of the company colors in the ofc lore clash heavily with the main color, resulting in an eyesore

I wasn't sure about the blue helmets for fire support squads at first, but I painted up an infernus marine and it actually contrasts quite nicely with the red.

It sounds like I don't need to bother with squad number markings for terminators or sternguard. I just need to make sure to use a white skull on the pauldron instead of a white tear. I might reserve the first squad for an honor guard if I ever get one.

Tygre wrote:
The 4th Edition Blood Angel Codex was so low effort, it was a White Dwarf article.

Hey! It was two White Dwarf articles! Get yer facts straight.

I would never have picked them up without the codex in WD. I get why BA players from 3rd would have been insulted by it, but I loved it.

 Arschbombe wrote:

Tygre wrote:
The 4th Edition Blood Angel Codex was so low effort, it was a White Dwarf article.

Hey! It was two White Dwarf articles! Get yer facts straight.

I would never have picked them up without the codex in WD. I get why BA players from 3rd would have been insulted by it, but I loved it.

Yeah, I knew it was two articles. One for background/fluff, and one for army list. As a player from 2nd, I had hoped for a proper codex or supplement. It felt like we were skipped and just given a get you by list. I loved it too. I could stop using my Blood Angels as red Ultramarines.

Despite having "Assault" in the unit name, Blood Angels Assault Intercessors have red helmets instead of yellow due to being battleline, correct?

 Dysartes wrote:
Despite having "Assault" in the unit name, Blood Angels Assault Intercessors have red helmets instead of yellow due to being battleline, correct?

Yellow for close support.

I think assault intercessors are Close Support units, so yellow helmets. GW's ones have yellow helmets and 7th squad knee markings. 7th and 8th squad of battle companies are the close support squads. GW's Ultramarine ones have the close support emblem on their shoulder supporting this, though they do confusingly have the 9th squad number. I would say they supposed to have yellow helmets.

Are they "battleline" in army construction? I am rusty.