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After mulling over a few ideas, I'd like to use the Wrath and Glory system to do something radically different and interesting.

Each player will take on the role of a powerful Noble on a newly established Imperial World during the frightening post great rift era. Your job will be to direct the development and security of this world.

This game will be about strategic decision making more than dice rolls (though we'll have a few of them as well). After making an important decision, we'll fast forward a few years to see the consequences of that decision. In addition to building up a great Imperial world you'll also be trying to enhance your own wealth and power as well.

Sometimes a crisis or disaster will break out and your character will have to go into combat mode, so we'll have that aspect as well.

What kind of world will you build? Will it remain in the Emperor's light. It's up to you.

If you have the Wrath and Glory rules you can use the advanced character creation for a custom archetype.

If you don't have the rules, no worries I can draw up character stats and make any rolls. (Like I said this would be more limited on the rolling. Emphasis on big decisions)

As you can imagine, I'm glad to be in. The concept sounds interesting to say the least. I'm not yet fixed on a character concept, meaning I spontanously have several in mind. Let's see who else joins in and I will adjust accordingly

Thanks man. Yeah I've been doing these sort of games for a while now and wanted to do something way different and also ideally suited for forum style play.

But I'll need at least two players and three to four would be ideal. We'll see if anyone else bites. If not, I may throw another game idea out there.

I have no idea how Wrath and Glory works as a game system.

We recently tried it with some Orks. Pretty fun, less complex than Only war and a bit more fitting for a forum RPG.

When in doubt you can just tell what you want to do and the gamemaster does the rolling

Yeah the way I run games, no one has to no any rules at all. I can just automate the rolling as needed. (If you want to do the rolls that's also cool).

Also, added bonus, this particular game is going to be very light on the rolling. Very much about the decisions...and there will be a lot of decisions. Like you will be literally building up a world and playing game of thrones style politics.

Alright, cool, let's see if we can get one more and off we go.

Aye, i'm not at all up to date with post great rift lore as i wittingly ignore it and live my live as a lore dinosaure... But if it is of no importance, then count me in.

Nice man. We'll get started soon then! Stay tuned and get ready for a wild ride ahead!

Regarding characters I could see myself playing an old administratum drone who really has his eyes on the long game. He knows what tithes and taxes are due and when they are due in the next centuries, he knows his way around files and administrative stuff, even knows some little tricks to work the system to a limited degree.
His weakness is that despite being a small cog in the system all his live, he kept a surprising amount of empathy and now that he is faced with the destiny of real people, that he can see around him and talk to every day, it gets hard to rationalize them as "only numbers".

He knows that sometimes harsh decisions are necessary, but those were much easier when those people were just numbers on a sheet or when you could tell yourself it wasn't your decision, you just carried it out

Sounds good. Your characters can be of many different backgrounds. The one thing they all have in common is that some point along the way, they amassed quite a bit of wealth.

Let the game begin!

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I assume we draw our characters here? If not, I'll copy paste it to the thread of the game itself.

I was thinking of an ex IG colonel.

He hails from the Imperial hive world of Kallen, a world of sickness, misery, scarcity and violence, on which the only escape is to sign up to the imperial guard.

His regiment was shipped to the Champagne Sector Warzone, where his regiment fought on the world of Inamorta to hold a Genestealer cult's relentless attacks. While they did succeed, very few men came back, and worst still, having witnessed the treachery of pdf forces turning on them, they had become paranoid. However, for his absolute bravery, the colonel was awarded with retirement from the IG and a massive payment in jewels and money.

Now, to honour him and his survivors, they have been granted the honour to settle a new world, where, leading a colonists of their Kallen stock, they would assume command.

This character is somewhat Jekyll and Hide: while he is pious, cares for the people, and lives by the ideals of the imperium as taught to an officer, he bears the scars of war. But on the other hand, he is constantly on the brink of paranoia, and has the potential to react viciously to protect his ideals and colonists from what he -anf perhaps only he- perceived as corruption, heresy or malign intent.

He is a relatively intelligent character - as before someone who commanded so many men - but he has got nothing in the way of education on matters of economy, politics, administration.

Nice I like it!

This is going to be an interesting game indeed. You are quite literally contending with the enemy within and the enemy without...and oh yes. The Imperium will be demanding tithes at some point as well. I'll get a character sheet worked up for him soon. Feel free to jump into the game and start role playing/decision making. Probably no dice rolls needed for this first turn.

Fine, jumping to the game topic itself and will make... My first move.

Btw, his name would be colonel Loisy. Cause that's a famous person from my village and that's as good as a keyboard bash would otherwise get me.

Char Sheets: First one finished for Pyro



Just starting with a basic laspistol and knife and a flak coat for armor but since you are pretty important you can acquire a new piece of common or uncommon gear each round.

Talent: Paranoid

Effect: You constantly fear for your life. You have
established a web of connections to gather information
on dangerous conspiracies.
Once per session when you have access to a
communications device, you may ask your ring of
contacts one question they may know. The GM rolls
a secret Cunning (Fel) Test and provides you with
whatever information the contact can provide.

Regarding (un)common equipment: I would like a dataslate with access to uncommon knowledge: mainly the exact energy consumption of the grid, that von Gaussenberg installed as well as (if possible) access codes to limit it temporarily or regionally. While he does have the colonies best in mind, being a bit paranoid and thinking the way he does he wants to keep an eye on WHO does WHAT with the grid, noticing when someone does things in his/her domain that one might have to look into and ultimately having something to blackmail if necessary.

The overall idea is to keep this as his trump card waiting until everyone got so used to the infrastructure that replacing it with something NOT unser Gaussenbergs control seems unnessary complicated

Can I jump in on this? Not familiar with the system at all, but I can RP well enough.


I think for my character, I want a Cardinal who has climbed the ranks of the Ecclesiarchy in the area and clawed his way to the top via unsavory methods. He's an unsavory sort, that cloaks himself in the robe of righteousness. His true faith is in Power, and the faith is a tool to attain those heights.

He doesn't care too much about wealth, fame, or decadence. Those are just ornaments of Power and the exercise of it.

I imagine he was the second son of someone important on some mis-begotten Imperial world, got shipped of to the Priesthood as a second son, and has been rising through the ranks by latching onto and then helping tear down others ever since.

@ Easy E. Absolutely. Feel free to jump in on that first scene and designate your investments. If he is a cardinal, investing in Religion might make sense but he can also diversify his portfolio, invest in agro, mining, or trade. Got to make that money!

@ Pyro, I love the idea, we can work that into the Paranoid talent I bought for your character.

Is there a category for "Underworld/Criminal" interests?

Sure, we can invent one. You want to put some of your wealth into criminal contacts? That could work. Even better, put some wealth into some internal security and you'll have some sway with the local enforcers.

This first round is kind of like, everyone having a hand in building the setting. Once that setting is established, anything can happen.

Thanks, I will try to get something up later today.

One thing that fits better off topic: If Easys Character hadn't started the whole Cathedral business, my idea was that von Gaussenberg would have proposed a plan to construct a cathedral next turn in a very big dimension that takes at least a decade, maybe more to finish, pledging 1 ressource pip and promising to spend another one the following turns until it is finished. His reasoning being that he appeases the Ecclesiarchy while simultanously giving them a reason to keep him alive, as they know as long as he lives, there will be more money for them the next decade.

So when Cardinal Richmond offers to start working on it now, Gaussenberg would try to convince him to plan big, like... really big, promising to chip in on the next opportunity to try and salvage the plan mentioned above.

By the way, Easy E: I love how you described your character. Really cool visual.

As general explanation: as one might already read from it, Gaussenbergs general plan for survival at the top is to be useful enough and less of a pain for everyone with any power, that killing and replacing him just doesn't seem worth the effort. The other members might not love him, but he keeps his parts of the colony going and doesn't negatively interfere with anybody, so why even bother...

Lets see if this works out.



Small sidenote to what I mentioned with farmland: Its a funny little snippet of real world circumstances I recently read. At least in a lot of european countries the best farmland is under big cities. Because the sequenz was
"Look this is really good farmland, lets make an acre here"
"Lets build a house beside our field"
"Lets build more houses where the other houses are."
"Would you sell me your field? I want to build a bigger house for all the people that want to live here. You can farm somewhere else, can't you?"
=> and that is something that reeeeaaaally bothers Gaussenberg so he tries to avoid that from the start.

Interesting real world view on farmland. I see that in the US all the time, as it is easier to build new than re-build/repair existing so the core decays while the towns sprawl outward.

I have a three-pronged approach here to off-set the power of the Trade Union that aligns with what von Gaussenberg's carrots and sticks.

1. Make sure base survival needs like food is met.
2. Give them a taste of the good life via luxury consumer goods, this gives rebels something to lose if the system cracks. They lose their soft luxuries.
3. Provide the balm for the masses via Religion in the outlying regions.

Essentially, we can use internal class divisions to divide and conquer the Trade Union's base of power. By eroding that base, we erode their power. This may work on Chaos style cults and standard political rivals, but the risk is that the challenge is Xenos in nature means that these measures will have no impact. Therefore, if we do not erode the base of the Trade Union power this way, we know we need something a bit harsher.

So, doing my shorter short cut of Loisy's plans, he acts as a soldier and as a paranoid that he is. He is personnaly affected in this because of the GSC he fought.

He wishes to bring yet more of the security under his thrall just to make sure. He does not belive that heretics and mutants are not behind the trade union, and while he does not wish to make ordinary people pay the price, he wants to have their haed as a paramount part of regaining order. Making something for the ecclesiarchy comes naturally to him, as he failed to ten years earlier and being himself pious, wants to make amend of sorts.

Funny how our characters still kind of circle each other trying to get a measure who might be an ally and who an enemy

Most funny how we actually easily agreed for a balanced approach in regulating the crisis, let's see what our resourceful GM makes of it!

Loisy is kind of a benevolent madlad, on the brink but true to his oathe. While he is dedicated and trustworhty at heart, you never now when he could potentially lose his grip and derail... that's what I find funny playing that caracter!

Wow I love the effort yah all are putting into this.

Rest assured though, the whole thing won't be Warhammer Sim City (though that part is pretty cool).

We still have to pause for investigation and violence lol!

Second character sheet completed. The Colonel

Great, has he got anything peculiar as a talent or special rule or something as Von Gaussenberg has got?

The image is blurry in my end

Just to make clear: the space port issue is just expressing what he wants to do in a potential "turn three" should he see the day. As he tries to plan far ahead, he might as well show the others that he does that way, in an effort to make things more effective. If they know what the administratum will do the next decades, they might adjust their plans to better help the colony. He is quite idealistic in this regard assuming that everyone involved wants the colony to be a success when the first tithe is due and the more efficient they go about the business of setting everything up, the lower the risk their heads will roll when the debt comes due.

Also thinking about it I see him as kind of a weasily guy who shuns away from confrontation. Therefore he tries to avoid stepping on anyones toes and immediatly backed down when Richemont pledged Agriculture too and also tries to make amends to Loisy so that he doesn't see von Gaussenbergs approach to the Mechanicus as interfering with PDF business.
You are invited to use that as you like.