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By the End if this, I might have to change the title to Tilting at Windmills...

Alright. I'm attempting to renter the hobby after a decade and a half away from wargaming.

I plan on starting slow and building/painting a Space Marine Kill Team.

I have started this endeavor with some paint brushes and nothing else.

Over the past few weeks I have gathered the following supplies:



Sprue Cutter, Exacto-Knife, Bottle of Vallejo 'Iraqi Sand' paint, 5d6, 5 Space Marines (Push-fit from the Space Marines Adventures: Tyranids Attack! box set), Paint Brushes, and a Tape Measure.

Still missing glue, Primer, and some other things that I'm sure I'm forgetting.

But the auspicious project begins!

And I'm subbed ! I'll follow your progress with great interests ahah !

Good luck!

Remember you are still missing the 6th marine, otherwise your kill team isn't going to be legal. Probably a captain with plasma pistol and power fist. Which will raise the cost.

Not sure why you went this route of ignoring my advice, as all in all it will be more expensive than buying a starter and selling the Nurgle team and will end up giving you a sub-par team (heavy gunner with his M4 is pretty terrible) and a smaller one vs one with options (6 vs 7 models). I guess the Adventure boxes must have solid discounts in your area so that it makes sense.

Cyel wrote:
Good luck!

Remember you are still missing the 6th marine, otherwise your kill team isn't going to be legal. Probably a captain with plasma pistol and power fist. Which will raise the cost.

Not sure why you went this route of ignoring my advice, as all in all it will be more expensive than buying a starter and selling the Nurgle team and will end up giving you a sub-par team (heavy gunner with his M4 is pretty terrible) and a smaller one vs one with options (6 vs 7 models). I guess the Adventure boxes must have solid discounts in your area so that it makes sense.

My begging skills paid off.

One guy had assembled some blue plastic Marines from another game called "Fire Team." He said he'd scrounge them up and give them to me, since he never used them and switched to playing something else.

Also, I was intrigued by a board game that I can play by myself (and doesnt require electricity), in case of mandatory evacuations or power failures... Hurricane season starts in a couple days.

Plus, it was on sale!

I didn't ignore your advice, BTW. I realize that it would've been better to buy the starter box, since buying the other guys piecemeal will be more expensive. I just saw a deal, and thought it would allow me to incorporate some more models on the cheap.

I plan on expanding this Kill Team into a full army at some point. I guess, I chose generic Marines after all.

Great looking forward to your pictures and battle reports

Uh... just one question... Is it me or are Primaris Marines in more parts than the guys I use to build?


Step 1: Removing Sprues and Mould Lines.


Step 2: Go buy a box for Organisation of Bits, as I lost a head for 20 minutes when it rolled off the table and under a dresser.



I haven't built anything since 2009, and my clipping and mould line removing aren't that great.

Maybe these Marines will be from an abused Chapter... Marines Malevolent, perhaps?

Any suggestions are always appreciated.

An excellent start.

You might want to stick to an easier paint scheme for your first army.

Raptors, Invaders and Salamanders are easy green schemes to paint. I've heard painting reds, whites and yellows are difficult.

I got a can of black primer you can use.

Guess I have to use these bases as the Marines' feet are attached.


Loosely fitted. It says that no glue is required, but I might add a bit at the base.

I plan on painting the bases separately before attaching them fully.

Honestly the box for keeping bits organized is nice if you're a clip everything first person.

 blockade23 wrote:
Honestly the box for keeping bits organized is nice if you're a clip everything first person.

I wasn't used to the Primaris Marines, so I clipped away, put the bits in the box - and then noticed everything on the sprue was numbered.

Took me a moment or two with the shin armor.

Some of the more complex models it does mater what oder you put things together. I like to clip and clean the bits that look like they might cause an issue, dry fit, and then assemble. And for a lot of kits, only certain parts are swappable. Arms (in pairs) heads, and shoulderpads are normally safe.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/816652.page#11754931

Got the Top 5 Space Marine Chapters I like... any advice on which to use?

Good luck, new kits can be annoying. Just pick the one you like the most, I like Blood Angels and Ultra Marines for first founding and Alpha Legion for loyal traitors.

 Quixote wrote:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/816652.page#11754931

Got the Top 5 Space Marine Chapters I like... any advice on which to use?

Iron Ravens. I remember an article in WD where they were described and I still remember how easy and achievable it felt:

Silver all over the model (spray can may be a great idea as you plan to expand it to a full 40k army), gold trims, gloss Nuln Oil all over the model.
Add blue and red detail, maybe black weapon casings - done!


You will probably paint the entire team in one evening. Well, maybe two, depending on how fast gloss Nuln Oil dries

I would suggest that you do a kill team comprised of all five chapters that you are interested in - nothing says they all have to be the same - could keep it interesting for you and then if you find one paint scheme you like best - just focus on that one.

I'm prefer Ultramarine, but it hasn't stopped me trying my hands at other chapters (Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc.).

I've settled on the Knights if the Raven. Cool name/esthetic/ridiculously simple paint scheme + they share the same chapter emblem.






Any clue on how to paint them? I was thinking prime Leadbelcher, layer if Runefang, Nuln Oil the recesses, and some random red for the kneepad/eyes.

Use sand color for base with black trim.


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Tomorrow begins the adventure in buying paints!

1. Black Primer
2. Leadbelcher
3. Runefang
4. Nuln Oil

I'll work on the other paints later. This should get me started.

Ditch the layering step, it will be the most time consuming and won't show after you Nuln Oil the entire model anyway.

If you insist on adding more contrast to your metal, some edge highliting AFTER Nuln Oil will be much more prominent.

Oh, and don't buy black primer just to paint metallic all over it anyway. Buy metallic primer and save yourself time and money.

Metallic primer
Nuln Oil all over
Edge highlight
Details

Don't add time consuming steps that are not going to show. If a model can be done in 10 minutes and doesn't look worse than one done in an hour, why waste time and effort?

Should I still prime the base black? Or will painting over the metallic primer not be a problem?

Not a problem, it is a primer after all. But of course it depends on how you want to do the bases.

I must admit I laughed at the single bottle of paint in your supplies picture.

Gotta start somewhere! Years ago there was a moment (amidst low hobby activity) where I got tired of having to take out my Citadel paint pots and water them every ~year so they wouldn't fully cake up and dry out. I gave them all away to a friend to rid myself of the burden. Eventually I got back into things and needed to start re-buying colours. Back up to 100+ now! Although they're all dropper bottle brands, or GW paints that I have transferred into generic dropper bottles.

A friend of mine gave me a used copy of Fire Team, and a brick of blue dice to help me out. So I believe (I'm looking at the AoD rules again) can actually build a Kill Team. It may not be the best, but this will help me learn the game and I can always add/swap marines later.











Annnd.... these guys too...




I'm going to clean up the Marines and then I'll list what I have.

Maybe we can make a Kill Team out of them.


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Doing some arm Swaps and fixing some bad gluing by the previous owner.

Here is what I have for my kill team. I have 9 Marines available:

Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Plasma Pistol & Chainsword

Intercessor Sergeant with Bolt Rifle

Assault Intercessor Grenadier

Assault Intercessor Warrior × 4

Heavy Intercessor Gunner with Heavy Bolter

Intercessor Warrior with Auto Bolt Rifle

Any suggestions on What to build, and what Chapter Tactics to take?

I noticed that your new guys have plain bases, how are you going to base them?

That was a nice stash you got there! You will be able to use those Necrons as NPOs for your solo games, which should get you learning the rules as you play..

You can easily start with a captain, sergeant, grenadier and either 2 CC grunts and 1 shooty grunts, or 2 hooty grunts and 1 CC grunt. Interecessors are pretyy good all rounders, and the P1 their guns have is brutal when fielded in numbers (My info on them comes from KT21 so diclaimer - they might play differently in KT24)

EDIT: Reading the AoD rules just now, you cannot take both sergeant and captain.. You will want to take the captain and skip the sarge for sure (AI sarge with plasma pistol can work as proxy for now). Bolt rifles also still have P1 so just spam em when in doubt.. As for equipment, you want to take at least an Auspex

Just checked what models the SMATA box comes with.. From those, you want to take the grenadier and 2 bolt rifle interecessors (the sergeant can proxy as a regular interecessor). If you then add the captain to the team, you can take 2 more assault interecessors. I think thats a team I'd personally start with, then investing into a sniper model at some point, which you can exchange with a grenadier, assault interecessor or regular interecessor depending on the opponent. The captain, auspex and sniper all synergise with each other nicely, so you will eventually want one eliminator

The Sergeant gives me an extra Chapter Tactic, while the captain has a 1/game ignore one inflicted damage.

The Sergeant has a close combat version and a shooty version.

But this will hopefully give me a base to work from. My paints should arrive by Wednesday.

With the models you have it would be a good idea to go a full Assault route.

Assault Sarge, plasma
Grenadier
4 Assault Intercessors

with the obvious primary Chapter Tactic pick being Dueller (it deserves a slight nerf tbh).

It will limit the amount of different profiles you need to remember, make playing the mission and Tac Ops easier (KT requires you to aggressively move forward) and long-range firefights don't happen in KT that often anyway. It is still a brutally efficient composition, whether the enemy is a shooty or a close combat team.

The paint multiplies.

Tuesday is Priming Day. There should be progress this week.

Today is Priming Day!

Let's hope everything dries before it rains... nothing like priming at night!

Stupid Florida weather.

Rust Oleum is very hit or miss for me. I have much better luck with Dupli-Color.
Does the humidity ever bother your priming?

 Tommygun1918 wrote:
Rust Oleum is very hit or miss for me. I have much better luck with Dupli-Color.
Does the humidity ever bother your priming?

Yes. That's why I have to prime in the early morning.

In Florida it rains in the afternoon for a little bit and then a lot in the evening.

OK, went outside bright and early, was attacked by a bunch of biting insects.

6 ½ marines primed. The other 2 ½ will be primed later, along with various bits I missed this morning.



It's progress - finally!


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Leather and Bionics are painted. Will pick up some Leadbelcher and Nuln Oil on Thursday.

Then the fun really begins!




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