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How do!

Question from a lack of personal knowledge.

We know that in creating the Primaris, Cawl had access to sample Geneseed from the original Loyalist (and possibly Traitor) Legions. And we know that part of the Primaris Project was at least attempting to purify said said Geneseed, and remove some of the original flaws.

And so, when the Indomitus Crusade took to the stars? The then Greyshield Primaris were taken along, and dished out to reinforce depleted Chapters, including in some instances saving them from extinction, as well as provide the technology and training (if not already trained Apothecaries) to look after future recruitment.

But what I don’t think is covered is how Primaris of a given lineage were assigned. For instance, the Blood Angels, Flesh Tearers, Lamenters and Blood Drinkers all of course carry Sanguinius’ Geneseed. And all received fresh Primaris into their ranks. But who, if anyone, decided which Primaris went where? I mean, there’s a lot of prestige in being a Blood Angel over the successors, and a certain “Aha, nae joy, sucks to be you” for those assigned to the Lamenters.

Is this covered anywhere in literature?
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
How do!

Question from a lack of personal knowledge.

We know that in creating the Primaris, Cawl had access to sample Geneseed from the original Loyalist (and possibly Traitor) Legions. And we know that part of the Primaris Project was at least attempting to purify said said Geneseed, and remove some of the original flaws.

And so, when the Indomitus Crusade took to the stars? The then Greyshield Primaris were taken along, and dished out to reinforce depleted Chapters, including in some instances saving them from extinction, as well as provide the technology and training (if not already trained Apothecaries) to look after future recruitment.

But what I don’t think is covered is how Primaris of a given lineage were assigned. For instance, the Blood Angels, Flesh Tearers, Lamenters and Blood Drinkers all of course carry Sanguinius’ Geneseed. And all received fresh Primaris into their ranks. But who, if anyone, decided which Primaris went where? I mean, there’s a lot of prestige in being a Blood Angel over the successors, and a certain “Aha, nae joy, sucks to be you” for those assigned to the Lamenters.

Is this covered anywhere in literature?


Two points to consider:

1. Cawl did not only have access to sample geneseed, he had access to the literal motherlode: an artifact from Luna, called the Magna Mater (and later Sangprimus Portum) that did contain material from all twenty Legions and was even more potent than geneseed directly sourced from the Primarchs. It is a major plot point in Sons of the Selenar and in the exciting Cawl/Bile crossover Novel Genefather. It's probably also why Cawl has mysterious pseudo-Primaris-Primarch running around, who is the second major plot device in Genefather - the conclusion to this particular plot is yet to be decided.

2. The circumstances of the Ultima Founding and the subsequent fate of the torchbearer fleets are deliberately left vague - novels like The Emperor's Spears go into it to some detail, in that particular case stating that allocating Primaris to Successor Chapters was sort of a bet anyway, because due to the Circatrix and related shenanigans communication was a problem, and reaching almost half of the galaxy physically almost impossible. Many fleets were lost, others found only desolation when they arrived at their intended locations, and others yet were thrown so far off-target that their original plans could not be executed. The tl:dr version is that so much is terminally unstable now, and so many fleets were forced to act on their own best judgement, that basically anything goes, even if it was orignally intended to mostly match the (loyalist) genelines when possible.
   
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This is covered somewhat in Dark Imperium (and I assume the sequels?), when one of the Primaris characters is assigned to the Wolfspear instead of the Space Wolves.
   
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If it wasn't creating a new Chapter, Guilliman would have simply taken or ordered a portion of however many Primaris of X Geneseed lineage to find their parent Chapter to reinforce them.

In Devastation of Baal, he shows up and dumps a butt load of Marines for Dante to deal with. Dante rebuilds the Chapters of the Blood (except for the Knights of Blood) using these reinforcements.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I mean, there’s a lot of prestige in being a Blood Angel over the successors, and a certain “Aha, nae joy, sucks to be you” for those assigned to the Lamenters.


I mean, yeah, but at the same time the Primarus marines are going to not have perfect information. They're not going to know the problems the Lamenters have necessarily, and even if they did well that is the sort of thing the Primarus project is allegedly fixing.

The initial batch of Primarus who join an existing chapter also know what they "signed up for". I highly doubt the recruits were given enough information about the ~1000 chapters that exist in the Imperium for them to form any negative opinions enough that they would be disappointed when they finally got assigned. I expect every Primarus would have been surprised if he had even heard of the Chapter he was joining before being assigned to it, let alone had any negative feelings.

Any chapter infamous enough that Primarus marines would be not wanting to get assigned to is probably a Chapter that is sufficiently out of the Imperium's good graces that they wouldn't get any in the first place.

And at this point the timeline is a few hundred years-ish past this initial reinforcement stage so any Primarus marines from the initial wave will have settled in enough(or just be dead already) to not care anymore.

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