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I am surprised Mordo's new vamps have not been used...

ineptus astartes wrote:I am surprised Mordo's new vamps have not been used...

LCK's rarin for a Totenmaske, pretty sure that one's new...

he is? oh, good.

halonachos wrote:

Shas'ui T'au Kais wrote:God sake, this is starting to piss me off...

... Dez is not weak, he has managed to get in everybody's way, and survived, he has lost so much and still goes on...

... so excuse me if I think he isn't "weak"...

Don't get all upset and all Shas, we all recognize the fact that Dez is a dick. Who else would see an unconscious hunter he knew from before, take her from her hospital bed, and turn her into a wolf? Dick move completely.

Oh, and opening fire on an old ally that got turned into a wolf when he was helping you in a desperate fight?

And then following him to his house to take his recently uncovered father away from him, and killing his admirer?

Shas'ui T'au Kais wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Shas'ui T'au Kais wrote:God sake, this is starting to piss me off...

... Dez is not weak, he has managed to get in everybody's way, and survived, he has lost so much and still goes on...

... so excuse me if I think he isn't "weak"...

Don't get all upset and all Shas, we all recognize the fact that Dez is a dick. Who else would see an unconscious hunter he knew from before, take her from her hospital bed, and turn her into a wolf? Dick move completely.

Oh, and opening fire on an old ally that got turned into a wolf when he was helping you in a desperate fight?

And then following him to his house to take his recently uncovered father away from him, and killing his admirer?

Ok...everyone ...ceasefire on this whole " My characters had it worse... " gak...it's beginning to fething annoy me..as well as inspiring me to show everyone just how bad things can get for their characters...

ineptus astartes wrote:I am surprised Mordo's new vamps have not been used...

Well...perhaps if you'd bothered to actually read the past few pages you wouldn't be so " Surprised"....
I clearly covered what my intentions are..

I...how many...oh.

I have a lot to read...

I seemed to have opened this on the latest page :Facepalm:

my bad.

Sorry Fitzz...

... some people just really get me going, ya know?

Anyway, life's too short to moan over gak like that...

ineptus astartes wrote:I...how many...oh.

I have a lot to read...

I seemed to have opened this on the latest page :Facepalm:

my bad.

It's fine...like I said I'm trying to "streamline" a few things so the RP will be a bit less complicated when it starts.

Shas'ui T'au Kais wrote:Sorry Fitzz...

... some people just really get me going, ya know?

Believe me Kais, I know all about getting ...irritated.
...And what I said wasn't just aimed at you man...
...so..let's all stay focused on what's going into this RP as opposed to who got kicked in the nards the hardest in the last one.

lets just say all the PCs have suckish lives and leave it at that.


anyways, I am really caught on a lot of these classes and whatnot.

I'm creating my character sheet, but there was some talk about changing hunter classes to four..

Will this happen or can i just pick one?

sillyboy wrote:I'm creating my character sheet, but there was some talk about changing hunter classes to four..

Will this happen or can i just pick one?

All hunter classes will remain with maybe the addition of some new ones. Shas wants to see a possible necromancer added, but I'm trying to figure out how they would work in the Hunter style. FItzz said he may want to see new classes added to each, but we already have one possible addition to the wolves that still needs to be approved, Beserk is working on his mage stats, and mordo has made additions to the kindred.

I would like to see a tech added as a hunter role, someone who can use guns but also hack into all sorts of different fun things.

halonachos wrote:All hunter classes will remain with maybe the addition of some new ones. Shas wants to see a possible necromancer added, but I'm trying to figure out how they would work in the Hunter style. FItzz said he may want to see new classes added to each, but we already have one possible addition to the wolves that still needs to be approved, Beserk is working on his mage stats, and mordo has made additions to the kindred.

I would like to see a tech added as a hunter role, someone who can use guns but also hack into all sorts of different fun things.

Ah, Thanks.

And a tech Hunter ....Seems a bit trivial. Don't you think?
Why not use a standard class and place 'tech' in his skills?

Colt had the same, he was a Joan, but had gunsmith as a skill...

Edit:

Will we still use the Virtue/Vice system?

VIRTUES:
Castitas- Chastity
Temperantia- Temperance
Caritas- Charity
Industria- Diligence
Patientia- Patience
Humanitas- Kindness
Humilitas- Humilty

VICE:
Luxuria- Lust
Gula- Gluttony
Avarita- Greed
Acedia- Sloth
Ira- Wrath
Invidia- Envy
Superbia- Pride

sillyboy wrote:

halonachos wrote:All hunter classes will remain with maybe the addition of some new ones. Shas wants to see a possible necromancer added, but I'm trying to figure out how they would work in the Hunter style. FItzz said he may want to see new classes added to each, but we already have one possible addition to the wolves that still needs to be approved, Beserk is working on his mage stats, and mordo has made additions to the kindred.

I would like to see a tech added as a hunter role, someone who can use guns but also hack into all sorts of different fun things.

Ah, Thanks.

And a tech Hunter ....Seems a bit trivial. Don't you think?
Why not use a standard class and place 'tech' in his skills?

Colt had the same, he was a Joan, but had gunsmith as a skill...

Edit:

Will we still use the Virtue/Vice system?

VIRTUES:
Castitas- Chastity
Temperantia- Temperance
Caritas- Charity
Industria- Diligence
Patientia- Patience
Humanitas- Kindness
Humilitas- Humilty

VICE:
Luxuria- Lust
Gula- Gluttony
Avarita- Greed
Acedia- Sloth
Ira- Wrath
Invidia- Envy
Superbia- Pride

It can be implimented as it was in BMII...though in all honesty it took a back seat for much of the RP...

...Also I agree that there is no reason to create new " Classes" simply to cover a simple skill...a " Joan" for example could easily have the " Tech" skill...

Okay then, Here is the sheet for Vegas.

Sophia comes later, because this took a long time to write.

________

Character: Sky 'Vegas' Henderson ( Crooked )
Race/affiliation: Hunter/ Dervish
Physical Description: Female, 1.70 m, Athletic , brown hair, green eyes, 28 years old.
Equipment: a pair of pistols, stake, Daggers and muddy tattered clothes.

Background:
Sky was seven when the world changed. In the middle of day the sun disappeared and never returned.
Things of nightmare stalked the streets and carved their own bloody path into history. She and her family fled from Las Vegas, her hometown. They scavenged the land with untold millions of refugees. Their numbers declined rapidly as the vampires build their own twisted society. Her parents died after they had been struck down with illness. What once was once a easily curable virus, was now an unstoppable killer.
Sky and Holly survived the passing years, only trusting each others. Until they met the resistance. Loose remnants of what once was the network. Holly wanted to help, she had enough of merely surviving. She wanted to take action. Sky tried, but couldn't change her mind.

The first encounter with 'them' went horrible. Lots of hunters died as they walked straight into an ambush. The Vampirii struck with unrelenting madness. Their crazed laughter sneered trough the cold air. Holly was captured by the wretched inhabitants off the new world, blood dripped of her lips as a vampire tied her up.

Vegas barely escaped, dragged away by the few remaining hunters. Vegas rage broke her rescuers upper arm.
Holly was still alive. Vegas could feel it, she needed to go back. Her fellow survivors quickly moved onwards, with blank faces.
If she wanted dead, who were they to stop her. She came to the battlefield. Empty. Everything was gone, no body, weapon was left
to prove what had transpired. Only the plowed earth, filled with the bloody tears of the deceased remembered them.

Vegas followed the tracks of a large group walking away from the field. She followed the path for an eternity. The darkness robbing her off any sense of time. Never stopping to feed, rest Vegas finaly reached the outskirts of a seaside city. Screams off terror and despair echoed trough the eternal night. Vegas arrived at her location.

She spied the city for several weeks, surviving of stolen food out of the big greenhouses. But as much as she tried.
Vegas couldn't enter the city. She made a gamble and contacted a ghoul, living in the city. She promised him everything if he could find
out where her sister was. The ghoul greedily accepted. The price was high, but Vegas got her information.

She waited for an opportunity to strike. It didn't take long for it too arrive. A storm breached trough to the city.
Vegas placed herself in a tiny boat and paddled to the abandoned docks. Under the cover of the ravaging storm she infiltrated the blood farm. Sterile white walls greeted her. The walls were divided into small sections, each with his own number. She opened the section which the ghoul had told her. He was right. The section opened, revealing a naked Holly floating in a thick blue liquid. several tubes pierced in her flesh.

Vegas broke the glass wall in a mighty blow. The fluid crashed into her. The smell of rotting flesh slamming in nostrils.
And finally Holly was back in her hands. Vegas hold her tight, almost suffocating her. Holly didn't responded. She cleaned the mucus of her face. No reaction. Vegas panicked and started pulling the damned tubes out of her. One of them released a transparent liquid. Morfine. Vegas continued, pulling the last one out of her neck. Blood trickled out of it. With every heartbeat more of the precious Vitea left her body.
Her panic increased, Tears started to form in her eyes. she placed the needle back. It didn't help. More blood flooded out. she placed her hand on the bleeding wound. Pressing. Keeping as much as possible inside. Holly opened her tired blood-soaked eyes. She raised her shaking hands towards Vegas. Softly following her cheeks. "You came back" Holly spoke with a rusted voice. Her hand fell on the cold sterile floor.

Vegas left the lifeless body on the ground. She had tried but failed. Tears speckled her bloody face. She ignored, the Vampirii and ghouls who looked up as she passed. Shocked too see a human running trough the streets. Arriving at the docks she saw Arbites standing next to her rusty little vessel. They looked over their shoulders as they reeked the presence of fresh blood behind them. There was no escape.
Vegas dove into the icy sea. Her blooded hands carrying her away from Holly. Cold slipped into her limbs numbing them one at a time.
It was time to leave this all behind. Vegas gave up. Surrendering to the crashing waves.

Flaws/Vice:
Wrath: Sky blames the unnatural for all what happened in the world. The wars of blood, the tears of innocent.
Flaw: Vegas likes too smoke, but cigarettes are increasingly harder to find.

Virtues:
Industria/Dilligence: Vegas is stubborn and will continue to press on...

Location/resources: On the road
Vehicle: nothing for now
Stats: WS-6/BS-4/S-4/T-4/W-3/I-6/A-4/Sv-3+

special rules:
Whirligig: The dervish increases the ferocity of their attacks. The dervish gets an additional attack at the cost of -1 to their toughness to represent their lack of attention to defense.

Looks good Silly...

Wow, so different than old Vegas, in a lot of ways.


this is promising...

I wasn't just going to have the tech only have one skill, I wanted to have a character who would be the security guy. He would hack security systems and be the one who could track any phones that the other races may use. He would also be able to deploy a small turret, but I wonder if I could just make that a nice bit of gear.

Fitzz, would you mind if I made a list of possible "wargear" a hunter could have? Each character would get 50-100 points to spend on gear and could choose which ones they wanted depending on their class.

That's fine Nachos...

FITZZ wrote: That's fine Nachos...

I get the feeling that you really don't want to, so I'll hold off on it until BM4 if it occurs. Give me a chance to iron it out at least.

halonachos wrote:

FITZZ wrote: That's fine Nachos...

I get the feeling that you really don't want to, so I'll hold off on it until BM4 if it occurs. Give me a chance to iron it out at least.

No...seriously bro, it's cool...I'm not against the idea at all...just been a little preoccupied..
I'd like to see what you come up with.

say, FITZZ, do we make our character sheets now and pot them?

ineptus astartes wrote:say, FITZZ, do we make our character sheets now and pot them?

I'd prefer for everyone to wait a few days...at least until all the " what's in...what's out" if finalized...
Silly jumped the Gun a bit...but he's a BM Veteran ( been through both previous RPs) so i let him get away with it..

Okay then, every hunter will get 100 points towards war gear, with different types of gear being offered. There is gear anyone can use and gear only certain classes can use.

All:
Grenades(5pts): Gives the hunter access to grenades.
UV Grenades(15pts): Gives the hunter access to anti-vampire UV Grenades.
Flechette Grenades(15pts): Gives the hunter access to anti-werewolf grenades.
Motion Sensor(20pts): Allows the hunter to detect hidden wolves and vampires.
Combat Knife(free): Hunters carry a combat knife, not much but better than bare fists.
Blessed Knife(10pts): Allows the hunter to carry a blessed knife that counts as a power weapon against either werewolves or vampires(must be noted at choice of weapon and cannot change blessing).
Sidearm(5pts): Gives the hunter a pistol to use in close combat.
Wooden Ammo(5pts): Gives the hunter wooden ammo capabilities.
Silver Ammo(5pts): Gives the hunter silver ammo capabilities.
Night Vision Goggles(5pts): The hunter can see in the dark.
Flashbangs(5pts): The hunter can potentially interrupt enemy magic and attacks. On a 5+ the flashbang interrupts a magic or physical attack.

Stalker:
Sniper Rifle(free): Basic stalker weapon, engages outside of magic range but suffers in close combat.
High Powered Scope(5pts): Adds +1 to BS.
Semi-Auto Rifle(25pts): Allows a faster fire rate, but messes with accuracy.(+1 long range attack, -1BS)

Soldier:
Shotgun(free): Basic weapon.
Machine Gun(free) Basic weapon.
Soldiers choose one of the above weapons.
Detonator(5pts): The detonator allows the soldier to wire grenades to remote detonation.
Bayonet(5pts): The soldier can affix a bayonet to his weapon, giving him a ready knife to use.
Sword(10pts): Counts as a close combat weapon.
Blessed Sword(20pts): Gives the hunter a sword blessed against vampires or werewolves(must be noted at start).
Flak Jacket(20pts): Allows the hunter to reroll failed saves against ranged attacks.
The Big Gun(30pts): Nothing says hello like an RPG, gives the hunter a limited shot RPG that does splash damage. The RPG shot is a 1 shot weapon and can potentially endanger fellow hunters.

Tank:
Shotgun(free): Basic Weapon.
Maul(free): Basic melee weapon.
Sledgehammer(5pts): Larger melee weapon that is slow to use, but hits harder.(-1 Initiative, +1 Strength)
Blessed Hammer(20 pts): Blessed Sledgehammer that counts as a power weapon against either werewolves or vampires.
Stab Vest(20pts): Allows the hunter to reroll failed saves against melee attacks.

Medic:
Pistol(free): Basic Weapon.
Goggles(10pts): Allows the medic to reroll failed special saves against preventing turning of wounded hunters.
Blessed Scalpel(15pts): Power weapon to be used against either vampires or werewolves, but due to its small size is a risky weapon.(-1 WS).
Pressurized Syringe Gun(25pts): Fires syringes using pressurized CO2, the syringes contain a healing factor that would prevent a human from turning into a werewolf and while it cannot cure a turned wolf, it can sure burn like hell. The solution is also based off of a form of werewolf blood, which when injected into a vampire causes incredible discomfort.(Counts as a pistol with silver and wooden ammunition, because of the type of ammo it uses it can only fire 15 times per combat event).
Self-Medication Device(15pts): Gives the medic a chance to apply his/her own skills to himself.
Holy Ward(10pts): Medics carry out a healing role and use holy wards to protect themselves while working on the injured.(Medic skills cannot be interrupted by an attack)

That's what I have so far, will be posting the others and maybe some revisions later.

I just thought.


garlic tranquilizer gun.

Hehe, the veterans are the best...

I count, Silly, ghosty, Nachos, myself, and, uhh...

... Mordo? Chowder?

While working on Sophia's char sheet, i noticed that the Vamps special rules haven't been written down..

So i took the liberty to compile everything. I'm going to post it, so other kindred can use it in their sheets..

special rules:

Starvation: A starving Vampire reduces his stats by -1 for everything except wounds and this continues until the modifier reaches -3 at which point the Vampirii loses a wound. ( Taking one victims per week is the minimal requirement in order to maintain strength.)

Creature of the Night: Sunlight counts as an instant-death weapon against Vamps,however to reflect a possible escape (if applicable) Vampires get one + 5 save to get to cover,if the save is successful the vampire takes a wound and counts as starving until it feeds again.

Immortality: As a Vampire one can live forever, normal weapons no longer kill the body.They will only damage it. But there is an exception, the decapitation of the vampire will release the bond between body and soul.

Heritage of Vlad: Vampires are Vulnerable to wood, the alien living tissue conflicting with their own. A wooden stake through the heart will paralyze the vampire.

Gifts of Blood: The Vampire has the possibility to regenerate wounds bij feeding of humans. Using the precious blood to repair their own body.

Beheading kills vampires, even with normal weapons, I believe.

Mordo is more than a veteran, he's a co-conspirator. Will get the other gear I have in mind up tonight.

Blessed Knife seems very OP'd at only 10 points.