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Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

So I have been doing a bit of experimenting with painting terrain and with some helpful input from Chromedog over at Oz Tabletop Gaming I decided to try out applying some rust to a lot of pipe work I have been trying to finish off for quite a while now. Here is were I am at with the experiment......


First soak some steel wool in a bucket and then leave it to dry back out.


Then we have instant rust. How about that?


Some cheaper acrylic black "ink" and a flow medium to thin it even further and I have a black wash I can apply by the truckload for very little money.


A before shot of one of the small cubes I left loose and an after shot of the rusted up pipe in the background.


Another before and after. I have applied a thick coat of varnish and am waiting to see if the rust discolours any further. But I think we may be on to a very quick and cheap winner to knock out terrain that has enough interest to be good to game on without taking away from the models running all over them.

Thanks for reading.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409
See the Fluff of my Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537440.page

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment, 34/87th Tullarium Armour; Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Grimskragas Razorfangs, Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath; Hive Fleet Acidica; XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs;

[Warhammer] The Obsidian Knightly Order; The Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Dragonriders of Caledor; Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; The Throng of Kark Veng; 
   
Made in ca
Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot






Using ACTUAL RUST. Genius.

   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

I thought so. When Chromedog said that's what they used to do when he worked in prop making it was a light bulb moment.

Just need to assess if sealing the rust stops it oxidizing any further.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409
See the Fluff of my Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537440.page

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment, 34/87th Tullarium Armour; Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Grimskragas Razorfangs, Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath; Hive Fleet Acidica; XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs;

[Warhammer] The Obsidian Knightly Order; The Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Dragonriders of Caledor; Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; The Throng of Kark Veng; 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

It has been a busy week or so for me, but have been plugging along slowly. I have the Bull Centaurs (six in total) assembled, however, I want to convert one to be a Standard Bearer, one to be a Musician and one to be the unit Champion, so I need to dig through my bits box to see what I can come up with.

My wife hit on what I thought was a great idea for the unit champion and the standard bearer will likely be pretty easy. The musician is probably going to be a bit of trouble as they are such large models I will struggle to find an instrument that works. May need to scratchbuild a horn or drum.....any opinions of what instrument I should try to do?

On the painting front I have made some inroads. First up is another unit of Terminators for my previously completed Alpha Legion. With Chapter Approved 2019 the army had a points drop and would have ended up well under the 2,000 points which I originally collected them to. It also got me thinking about how to handle edition creep and points updates and I have come to the conclusion that with the release of 9th edition 40k my lists are now going to stay as they are.

So, I have trundled though all of the lists I have written (yep I actually have an army list written for every army on the front page, that's 124 armies) and updated all the 40k lists to the points in Chapter Approved 2019 and the Fantasy ones haven't changed in a while because you know AoS. But I am comfortable to let the lists now stand regardless of what 9th edition throws at them. I just want to tweak the Orks (add Flash Gitz) and Eldar (add another Guardian Squad) that I have already finished and the lists will be sealed forever......

But onto some painting. I couldn't quite remember the scheme I used for the Alpha Legion (another reason I don't want to keep going back to finished armies), but I think I got pretty close.


These are the older metal models, so there is a size difference between them and their plastic brethren. But with the larger bases it is slightly less obvious. I also kind of like the idea Alpha Legion run more streamlined suits of Terminator Armour.


Adding this squad in also has the happy coincidence of making my Alpha Legion army an exact mirror of itself. Every unit in the army has an exact twin as well. Which I think is a nice nod to the Alpha Legion mentality. These models were donated to the cause by one of my best mates, so cheers to him for that.


Finally for this update is my entry to the monthly painting comp (entering him on DakkaDakka and OzTabletopGaming) , cheeky me). I am really happy with how he has ended up and especially stoked with the base. Definitely will copy the base onto future armies. I call him Drog'Lur the White Worm.....


Thanks for reading and thoughts are always welcome.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409
See the Fluff of my Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537440.page

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment, 34/87th Tullarium Armour; Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Grimskragas Razorfangs, Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath; Hive Fleet Acidica; XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs;

[Warhammer] The Obsidian Knightly Order; The Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Dragonriders of Caledor; Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; The Throng of Kark Veng; 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

I have completed the assembly of my unit of Bull Centaurs. I had only intended a unit of 5 to be joined by the Taur'uk, but it turns out I somehow ended up with 6 instead. So I tweaked the army list to include a command group (which I hadn't intended to originally). But this left me having to figure out how to convert these lovely models to represent a Musician, Standard Bearer and Champion (or as the Chaos Dwarfs call it a Ba'hal).

Now there are 3 different sculpts for the Bull Centaurs so that works well, one of each will become one of the command group. This will help the unit to be slightly less repetitive. I looked at the three sculpts that I had to try and decide which would be most suitable without having to undergo major modifications. Obviously any of them could be the Ba'hal, I didn't know what to do for the musician and the Standard just needed to be able to hold a pole......

The photos are a bit iffy, but they get the message across. The following photos are a bit of a montage, the conversion is pictured with the original sculpt for comparison sake.

First up the Standard Bearer. Easy enough, stick a pole in his hand and call it done. I chose the below model as it seemed the most likely candidate (and didn't really work as well for the Musician).

I used an icon that is from an old GW Temple set I have had for years. Sort of fitted the whole Chaos Dwarf horned motif I think. I used the inside of a pen as the pole, filling it with green stuff then allowed me to drill and put a pin all the way through his hand and the pole and it has ended up quite strong (and straight!)

I was struggling with how to represent the Ba'hal as I didn't want to do any major conversion work. Then as always my wife came to the rescue and suggested adding some trophies to make him stand out. Since I plan to paint these guys similar to the Taur'uk (all brown, bronze and earthy) I thought maybe the Ba'hal liked to collect shields from vanquished foes? The idea gained traction as I could use some brightly coloured shields like the Elves or Bretonnians have to really contrast against the natural tones of the Bull. So a quick search and I had a few options. None of the shields are glued in place yet (will do that after painting) but I think the photos show the idea and it should make it obvious he is a little different to his peers.

Once painted I will position the shields to look like they are hanging from belts or strapped to arms.

The Musician was causing probably the most issues as the size of these guys meant I couldn't just rip off an instrument from my bits box. After some thought I figure a drum would be the easiest solution and came up with this.....

A drum hanging from his belt and a club to hit it with. I may have his axe hanging from him somewhere in case the club isn't sufficient a weapon. I am pretty happy with him. The drum body is a Leman Russ search light and a Goblin shield trimmed and glued on top with a little greenstuff to blend the edges better.

And the unit as a whole:

They take up a lot of room and will probably be pretty hard to move on the battlefield, but hopefully they are as impressive rules wise as they are model wise.

I am not sure about the origin of the bases as I think they come with standard plastic ones from Forgeworld, so I am grateful to the guy who sold them to me for the resin ones, although I needed to cut the feet and trim them to get them to fit to the bases better. I sculpted the Taur'uk base to resemble these ones. How do you think I went?

Thanks for reading.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409
See the Fluff of my Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537440.page

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment, 34/87th Tullarium Armour; Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Grimskragas Razorfangs, Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath; Hive Fleet Acidica; XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs;

[Warhammer] The Obsidian Knightly Order; The Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Dragonriders of Caledor; Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; The Throng of Kark Veng; 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Australia

So I took a break from the Bull Centaurs and the like to focus on finishing off the terrain I started with the rust experiment. Happy to say that the pipe network is all done now and even though it is pretty simple in the final wash-up, I like it. Obviously as it is terrain I tend to be a little looser with details as I want a nice back drop for games and models, not a scene stealing piece (well that is my excuse anyway).

On to some pictures:


So this is the entirety of my pipe terrain. Most of the detail is laser cut MDF glued to cardboard tubes. I use pretty thick cardboard tube (not toilet rolls) and this stuff will be able to hold up to a real beating. I also have in there a baking soda container, milo tin and the back end off a 5" angle grinder that was being thrown out......

I have added a few little details after the rust went on. I wanted to give a few points of interest and to make it look like someone is "trying" to maintain it. So added hazard stripes (easy since they were etched in by the laser cutter). All the 'bolts', hand wheels and smaller pipe joints were painted copper (got to love dissimilar metals together) and finally there are a few gauges scattered around that I did a simple blue and red job on them to show them up. I also scraped the rust of the dials, again, to make it look like someone was still trying to use this system.

There is also a bunch of ladders that I left loose as they stand very well on their own and will allow them to be moved about for added detail when setting up.


Here is a fairly basic setup showing how the pieces sit together. They are pretty solid and there is no rocking of parts, so I think they will hold up to models moving over them and games being played. For reference, this table they are on is 2 foot x 4 foot in size, so will be able to get a good coverage of this stuff. Especially with a couple of the other piece I have already (fuel tank from FW, power generators from GW), I will probably pick up a set of the GW Promethium pipe line to augment this collection and will call my industrial pipes done.


This is a different setup with a few more of the pipes set vertically. I tried very hard when I built the pipes to make them as modular as possible. So a lot of the parts can stand up or lie down and not look to odd.

I like this build as it really gives a sense of rising smoke stacks and would look great with a bunch of flyers weaving between the columns.


A few of my Aeldari running amok to show scale. Although it does't have a heap of height, there is plenty of cover for infantry and will hopefully make for some interesting games. Especially as melee units could probably use this stuff to get close without getting shot to pieces.


Now quite a happy coincidence that only occurred to me last night when I was taking these photos and quite by accident (would love to say I meant this), but the baking powder tin (small one) fits extremely well on top of the milo tin and in turn the former grinder housing sits very snugly on top! So very easily I can end up with an interesting tower or two (or three) that are very stable and look almost like they are meant to be together.


Now you may have noticed a few pipes that have open ends. This was intentional on my part for two reasons. Firstly, I like the idea of a Genestealer emerging from the end of a pipe, but a more practical reason is that they securely fit over a lot of the round details on the other pipes allowing for secure connections. Also, I have a pipe (that I may still cut in half) that fits perfectly inside the others so i can telescope a pair of pipes to be much longer and break down for easy storage.


And finally a much more condensed build were I have really tried to pack it all in as small a space as possible but still have logical connections. I actually kind of like this build and would allow it to be a prominent terrain feature on a board rather than being across a whole board.

It already has one coat of varnish on it (mainly to help secure the rust) but I plan to add another just for good measure now the rest of the painting has been completed.

Thanks for reading and would love to know what people think.

See My Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521618.page#5517409
See the Fluff of my Crazy Army plan here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537440.page

2000 Point Armies
[40k] Murdochs 5th Armoured Detachment, 34/87th Tullarium Armour; Taskforce of the Garrsak Clan Company; Grimskragas Razorfangs, Guiding Light of Yarn Le'ath; Hive Fleet Acidica; XII Ambush Cell, Loyalists of the Twin Primarchs;

[Warhammer] The Obsidian Knightly Order; The Wondrous Caravan of the Traveller and his Maneaters; Bronze Host of Ka-Sabar; Dragonriders of Caledor; Vain Quest for the Grail, 11th Crusade of Araby; The Throng of Kark Veng; 
   
Made in gb
Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot






London

Great idea to use real rust for the terrain! And very good modular terrain

Thanks for sharing



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