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It's okay for Morats to be big muscular apes. Because that's what they always were.

If anything, the Shasvastii were getting MORE alien. All the weird joints and flexibility are still there in their newest models.

 Pacific wrote:
The Combined Army is meant to be the most terrible threat humanity has ever faced, and at the point in the background the game has reached, shows every sign of stomping the earthlings flat before subsuming them into their own empire. The miniatures should look threatening and powerful

And I think this is why CA are getting some attention again. They did seem to be a bit of a forgotten faction, which probably had something to do with the sculpts. They just don't sell as well as the human factions. With the introduction of the Tohaa as the primary defense against the Combined Army, pulling strings to get humans involved for their own agenda, Combined Army needed its own shot in the arm. Especially when the Tohaa look so fantastic. As you said, the these are the bad guys of Infinity, and they're ramping up their invasion. They need to look the part.

 -Loki- wrote:

And I think this is why CA are getting some attention again. They did seem to be a bit of a forgotten faction, which probably had something to do with the sculpts.

Exrah sectorial now please.

I'm more than OK with that!

After all, the Anathematic is the miniature that "forced" me to start a Combined Army force!

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm more than OK with that!

After all, the Anathematic is the miniature that "forced" me to start a Combined Army force!

Sepsitorized you, then?

I like original looking aliens, rather than rip-offs of things we've seen over and over again. The Shas are fairly original. Perhaps someday the Exrah wil get some love. Then they might actually sell well.

The Tohaa are the real bad guys in Infinity, not the CA. IMHO.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm more than OK with that!

After all, the Anathematic is the miniature that "forced" me to start a Combined Army force!

...How precisely does that make you want an exrah sectorial, rather than an EI one?

I'm apparently a diehard nomad fan, but this newer stuff for the CA does look rather nice.

I think our dear moderator has Pokemonitis... He wants to collect them all. The TAGs anyway. Can't say I find that troubling. Nope.

So this "Big news" for April as mentioned in the 0-12 podcast? A new sectorial? A release date for the next book? GenCon announcement? Warcors? The rest of the ITS scenarios? ( I think there are 4 more pending) a name change? (cuz of the trouble with Woolworths in Germany) Rumors people. Let's hear them.

By god if they do that 'come in costume get a bootleg mini' thing for Gencon again this year, I may very well have to go for it. Free Infinity models ranks pretty high on the awesomeness factor.

While I do sympathize (note, sympathize, not "agree with") a much beloved aesthetic being changed... I gotta say, this isn't just a change in slight look, but in quality.

I found this image lurking in an Infinity thread down in the sub forum. I don't know if this is the just previous generation of sculpts, or an even older one, but the difference on a quality and skill level of sculpting is, I think it's fair to say, not debatable.






By the way, people mentioned the strange boots having gone away, i don't think they have, they are just being interpreted differently, although they are retained on the Oznat. It seems Morats have two "big toes" on either side of their feet, and that is represented in the Morats wearing boots by having a profile that would be incorrect for a human boot (i.e., a completely squared off front).

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Tohaa are the real bad guys in Infinity, not the CA. IMHO.

Tohaa aren't good guys in the slightest, but Combined are definitely the bad guys. Like the human factions, Tohaa are shades of gray. Combined army is outright black.

I'm fine with having both old and new Morats. Maybe I can pretend the new Morats are some other new race. I dunno, but the old ones definitely have a certain charm to them.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Tohaa are the real bad guys in Infinity, not the CA. IMHO.

Tohaa aren't good guys in the slightest, but Combined are definitely the bad guys. Like the human factions, Tohaa are shades of gray. Combined army is outright black.

I respectfully disagree. The CA is not a force of the willing. They are all more or less slaves to an insane machine intelligence. The Tohaa willingly choose to do what they do. And, I suspect that they built the EI in the first place.

Y'know, I just figured out what it was that I've been missing with the new Morats: It's the little horns they had on the side of their heads. They've been downsized to non-noticeability on the new sculpts. That's... well, kinda lame.

Adding those back in would definitely take away a bit of the simian look and make them more brutish, if still really anthropomorphic.

 Red Harvest wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Tohaa are the real bad guys in Infinity, not the CA. IMHO.

Tohaa aren't good guys in the slightest, but Combined are definitely the bad guys. Like the human factions, Tohaa are shades of gray. Combined army is outright black.

I respectfully disagree. The CA is not a force of the willing. They are all more or less slaves to an insane machine intelligence. The Tohaa willingly choose to do what they do. And, I suspect that they built the EI in the first place.

The fluff for CA specifically mentions the Morat and Shasvastii go willingly. The Morats see it as a way to fight good fights, and Shasvastii as a way to colonise more worlds.

 Red Harvest wrote:
I am quite curious about the AW matter too. Antenocitis makes really good stuff, and they've got some very cool dropships in the works. Start saving now folks.

Having seen some of the scenery/vehicle stuff AW have planned and given feedback on it for gaming use, you really really want to start saving now.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
The Tohaa are the real bad guys in Infinity, not the CA. IMHO.

Tohaa aren't good guys in the slightest, but Combined are definitely the bad guys. Like the human factions, Tohaa are shades of gray. Combined army is outright black.

I respectfully disagree. The CA is not a force of the willing. They are all more or less slaves to an insane machine intelligence. The Tohaa willingly choose to do what they do. And, I suspect that they built the EI in the first place.

The fluff for CA specifically mentions the Morat and Shasvastii go willingly. The Morats see it as a way to fight good fights, and Shasvastii as a way to colonise more worlds.

the Shasvastii only joined because there race was going to be extinct otherwise, there is a difference between willingly getting into bed with the enemy, and being forced too, even if the end result is the same.

The Morats could not defeat the EI army, so submitted.

The Morat fluff said, that if the Morat ever saw that the CA could be beaten, they would abandon the CA camp. I personally hope that they will become independent at one point in the story.

Also:

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2014/portada/team-covenant-metal-order-tokens/

Red Harvest wrote:I think our dear moderator has Pokemonitis... He wants to collect them all. The TAGs anyway. Can't say I find that troubling. Nope.

RH has it!

It was a bit of a convoluted path, I'll admit!

The Anathematic "forced" me to start a CA force, which in turn meant that I ended up with even more miniatures for INFINITY.

Alkasyn wrote:The Morat fluff said, that if the Morat ever saw that the CA could be beaten, they would abandon the CA camp. I personally hope that they will become independent at one point in the story.

I would LOVE for that to happen!

Alkasyn wrote:
Also:

http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/2014/portada/team-covenant-metal-order-tokens/

Workblocked!

What is it?

Metal-- anodized aluminum-- order tokens with the faction symbols. Very pretty.
Also expensive, and big. Since they only show one side, I am guessing that the faction symbol is on both sides.

Edit: and in the re-read, I note that the back is left blank. Probably would have been nicer to have the order symbol(s) on it and the faction symbol on the back, so you could just flip it to show a spent order.

Some kind of faction specific metal order tokens. New product, at least I haven't seen it yet.

 Pacific wrote:
Kroot, I would disagree with practically everything you have said there, other than perhaps the hairdos in 60's Star Trek looking OK. They do.

Honestly, the 'I dislike everything' comments might find some leverage in the Mantic or IG threads, but you're not going to get very much mileage out of it here mate. The character of the miniatures has changed, not been lost.

I have all old Morat miniatures and won't get the new ones. Saying that I dislike everything is nonsense and trolling. I just have an opinion and post it. And as someone who plays mostly Aliens, I don't like the idea that all Aliens must look exactly like humans to sell.

 IJW wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
I am quite curious about the AW matter too. Antenocitis makes really good stuff, and they've got some very cool dropships in the works. Start saving now folks.

Having seen some of the scenery/vehicle stuff AW have planned and given feedback on it for gaming use, you really really want to start saving now.

Could the Antenocitis stuff be the Huge April news then?

 Red Harvest wrote:
Could the Antenocitis stuff be the Huge April news then?

I don't think it is the news, but it is part of it, I reckon. It's likely to be something like.. CB announcing new content for the next book that significantly changes how Infinity can be played. In this case, I'm thinking we are talking about rules for vehicles, and that they will be partnering up with AW to provide the 'official' vehicles for the game.

Bleck! NM

I love on the Team Covenant site they say:

In the meantime, though, we were consistently dissatisfied with the order tokens available to us. We used everything from Force Tokens, to pieces of paper, to pennies, and none of it, as you might imagine, fueled our imaginations and brought us deeper into the Infinity universe.

I mean, they must not have been looking THAT hard.

$25 for a set of 11 tokens is absurdly steep. I guess if you're deadset on the metal, they might be your bag, baby, but I don't know why you wouldn't just go with the Warsenal ones otherwise.

Or the Micro Art ones, which while at times have inconsistent (but still OK!) quality...

I don't think we're going to be seeing any rules for vehicles in Infinity.

 IJW wrote:
I don't think we're going to be seeing any rules for vehicles in Infinity.

Not even in an abstracted form?

I'd be surprised. Lots of people have tried writing rules for vehicles but there isn't really space for them in the rules mechanics.

Bear in mind that I have no direct knowledge of future rules etc. :(