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 Apologist wrote:
*Crosses fingers for a Statuesque/Victoria team-up*

Seems like that would require a pretty significant change in style from one of the sculptors I think; Statuesque are pretty slim and small headed (although beautifully sculpted) and fit better with the likes of Antenociti's G.O.T. range than anything else. I really have a hard time mixing 40k-ish figures with Infinity-ish figures.

The female Tannenburg guard looks great, love the hairstyle!

Absolutely excellent (and I say that as someone who didn't mind the original bigger legs), I've been looking for something like this for months. I'm especially looking forward to getting some of the armoured figures.

How long does it normally take from you settling on a final design to putting them up for sale?

Ah nuts! I'm a tad disappointed the custodian figure is an upgrade sprue for the penal legion, it's a superb looking figure and would make a fantastic alternative for a full 'not krieg/helghast' unit or army.

Any chance we could get a number of just the helmeted heads on their own sprue for purchase?

Your website is a treasure trove of beautiful minis though and the female project is turning out splendidly, really enjoying the progress.

 Scrub wrote:
Ah nuts! I'm a tad disappointed the custodian figure is an upgrade sprue for the penal legion, it's a superb looking figure and would make a fantastic alternative for a full 'not krieg/helghast' unit or army.

Any chance we could get a number of just the helmeted heads on their own sprue for purchase?

Your website is a treasure trove of beautiful minis though and the female project is turning out splendidly, really enjoying the progress.

Hi, I have had several requests to make this Custodian head from the penal squad available as a separate sprue.
So here it is, it will be coming out with the second wave of resins.
Cheers, V

The guardswoman in flak armor looks awesome! I have long been wanting to add female troopers to my cadian IG army. It looks like it might take some greenstuff to make the shoulder pads compatible and a gun swap.

Does anyone have experiencing kitbashing cadians with the victoria miniatures?

Wonderful! Cheers BrookM. You've made my day!

 lone dirty dog wrote:
I agree with the above the girl in Flak is great she has that real rough and tumble look but still keeping a look of the female, the Tannenburg woman looks better but something is just not quite right as to what I cant put my finger on it though.

I think it's the baggy pants.

On the flak girl, baggy pants work, as she's in combat gear. Dress pants are generally more tailored, though, so it makes the Tannenburger look like she has massive legs.

The feet and waists are definitely better on both, though, and they're definitely shaping up nicely

I would rather have a little bit of more wasp figure :( but still the flakk armor one is getting my money. Hopefully I can get 10 so I can use as stormtroopers or veterans. Wonder if you'll do helmets or a more heavily armored version.

Anyway great job and looking forward to throwing money at it.

I'm pretty sure we'll see female counterparts of all the male variants.

I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

No.

I suggest the complete opposite. If you want RH-style females, get RH.

These female soldiers look great the direction they're going.

From the first link I clicked on:
http://www.ragingheroes.com/collections/complete-collection/products/eleriel-alaniel-anniversary-edition-28mm#

No thanks. Victoria Miniatures is doing great already.

 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

Why try to directly compete against someone who already does that? Raging Heroes already does a great job at doing everything you describe. Why would we need a second company doing that?

Instead of trying to beat other companies at their own game, vic is making something different. Raging Hero styled minis would look really out of proportion compared to vic's male figures, which is a result of the scale her minis are in. They're a very "heroic scale" which leads towards things like a chunkier build, larger hands/ heads, and tend to have a very "old fashioned" look to them. I just can't see RH style women running around with vic's male figures at all, it would look really off.

Raging Heroes and Vic are taking completely different approaches to the same problem (no good female models) It's a good thing they're very different. Gives us more choices and that's never a bad thing. Raging Heroes has the crazy over the top detail and actiony poses, and vic has the more down to earth, subdued stuff. Neither approach is a bad thing and I think as shown in this thread and the Raging Heroes kickstarter, both figures have a good sized untapped market waiting for them. And this is as a guy who will probably buy some Raging Heroes stuff and will definitely be buying Vic's (don't judge me, that RH nurse is pretty cool )

Not trying to bash Raging Heroes, just saying that I'm very glad she went a different direction.

Have an exalt, you've got it spot on

Vic's new female troopers look cool (and are getting better with each revision

RH stuff is also cool,

but the fact that they are meant to be female minis is one of the few things they share..... Which is good, more choice, more stuff to satisfy different army builders and painters

Hi all thanks for all the great feedback, questions and suggestions. I will answer as many as I can soon, but I just have to comment on this one first. I honestly thought this was not serious, just some sort of joke. Assuming its serious I should clarify some points.

 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

Thanks for your advice, but please remember these are heroic scale soldiers made for the battlefield. They are not barbie dolls, strippers, super models, play boy bunnies or RH miniatures. Therefore, why should their faces be more beautiful, bodies more slender, poses more feminine, their torsos narrowed and boobs bigger?
They already have smaller hands than my male sculpts.(in further refinements they may get smaller).
Future sculpts could well have more attitude, these are two samples of what will become a fully interchangeable modular range. I have started with fairly neutral miniatures to keep it simple at this stage.
There are dozens of companies making females to your specifications, I have no desire to mimic them.
If I need any references of how females carry themselves all I have to do is look in a mirror.

 vic wrote:
Hi all thanks for all the great feedback, questions and suggestions. I will answer as many as I can soon, but I just have to comment on this one first. I honestly thought this was not serious, just some sort of joke. Assuming its serious I should clarify some points.

 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

Thanks for your advice, but please remember these are heroic scale soldiers made for the battlefield. They are not barbie dolls, strippers, super models, play boy bunnies or RH miniatures. Therefore, why should their faces be more beautiful, bodies more slender, poses more feminine, their torsos narrowed and boobs bigger?
They already have smaller hands than my male sculpts.(in further refinements they may get smaller).
Future sculpts could well have more attitude, these are two samples of what will become a fully interchangeable modular range. I have started with fairly neutral miniatures to keep it simple at this stage.
There are dozens of companies making females to your specifications, I have no desire to mimic them.
If I need any references of how females carry themselves all I have to do is look in a mirror.

Well said vic!
Love the way things are coming together. Great work.

Hear hear, and as for the combo-kill quip at the end, beautiful...

All I can do now is wait for some female Border World Rangers, hopefully including an obvious model for female sergeant-type individual

 vic wrote:
Hi all thanks for all the great feedback, questions and suggestions. I will answer as many as I can soon, but I just have to comment on this one first. I honestly thought this was not serious, just some sort of joke. Assuming its serious I should clarify some points.

 Daniel_Holmes wrote:
I suggest drawing inspiration from the masterfully sculpted miniatures done by Raging Heroes:

http://www.ragingheroes.com/

Also, as per your current sculpts for females, I would suggest working more on the faces to make them beautiful. See RH's females. Also, I would make the bodies more slender, lithe and curvy. Their body language is not feminine either, take a look at how females carry themselves (ex. movies) and how this carries over to still images of them (ex. Magazines of models, RH's miniatures).

The hands on your current female models are too large, females have noticeably smaller hands than men. The busts could be enlarged slightly and the torso could be narrowed slightly. You may also want some 'attitude' to their poses (again, see RH miniature and their kickstarter for reference).

Thanks for your advice, but please remember these are heroic scale soldiers made for the battlefield. They are not barbie dolls, strippers, super models, play boy bunnies or RH miniatures. Therefore, why should their faces be more beautiful, bodies more slender, poses more feminine, their torsos narrowed and boobs bigger?
They already have smaller hands than my male sculpts.(in further refinements they may get smaller).
Future sculpts could well have more attitude, these are two samples of what will become a fully interchangeable modular range. I have started with fairly neutral miniatures to keep it simple at this stage.
There are dozens of companies making females to your specifications, I have no desire to mimic them.
If I need any references of how females carry themselves all I have to do is look in a mirror.

I'm buying RH's stuff, because I think it's very characterful. And I'm going to buy your female range because it complements an army I'm already building and looks great doing it. I really love the direction you're going, and I wouldn't change much. Attitude? What does that even mean? I feel like it's a code word for tarting it up, which is the exact opposite of what I'd be looking for in your range. Now, if it means you're making a female soldier charging with bayonet fixed, stabbing at a filthy heretic or xenos... well, that's an attitude I can support.

What I think he meant by "attitude" is that they have a very action movie esque look to them.

Raging Heroes remind me of a lot of things like Tank Girl and comics in general. They've got that crazy, just over the top look to them. That's a cool look, and if you just straight up say "hey, that's what we're going with", I think it's respectable. Everybody loves a good popcorn flick every now and then. They don't try and dress it up or say "we're super sophisticated" or anything like that, they just say "here's our stuff, we think it looks cool, hope you do too."

But we're getting way off topic from what we should be talking about, which is drooling over vic's WIP pics, and me banging my head against my desk that I can't afford to place an order for over a month.

Snrub wrote:Hey Vic, two questions.
1- The flak armoured regiment, will it be an all women regiment? If so i have a few background ideas if you're interested.

2- Seeing as the Victorian guard have commander Caine and the Broolians have Torgo, do you have any plans to give each regiment a "hero"?

1- would like to have the option of mixed, but no reason people could not have an all women regiment. I will probably sell these minis as 10 woman squads, that can then be mixed in with the blokes.
2- would like to.

Apologist wrote:

Regarding a name, perhaps the Blenheimmers? Thought it might be fun to continue the famous battle theme you've got going with the Tannenburg troops.

Plus, 'Blenheim Blithes' and the 'Blenheim Boys' would be fun WWII-style nickname for the female and male squads, respectively. P'raps Blenheim Braves for a mix?

Not bad.

Javin wrote:
I like the rolled up sleeves. Will you be doing an empty arms set so we can put in the weapon of our choice in the arms?

Will there be a slightly wider arm stance to hold special weapons like heat weapons or fusion guns?

Will there be a sprue of female heads?

yes, hope to do empty arms for the men too.
Stances are already pretty wide, I'll have to see how they look with a special weapon.
Yes, all bits including heads will be available as separate sprues, same as the current male range.

Valhallan42nd wrote:
Are the arms female arms, or are your arms unisex?

No, the male arms will fit, but what you are seeing here are smaller.

cincydooley wrote:
Will these be available in Resin, hopefully?

These and all release for the foreseeable future will be resin.

Cheers,
V

Gotta say Vic, if I was still playing 40k I'd buy a ton of these for my Guard.

As is I'm likely to pick up some anyway. Great job!

I really like the look of these and will echo the sentiment that there's no need to "tart 'em up" as others have that covered. I look forward to seeing some female penal troopers.
Will you be doing a set of "chaos cultists" that would fit in with a certain gaming company's offering?

Agreed, looking fantastic as-is! Particularly the flak armor trooper, as previously pointed out.

loving the new female guard miniatures, they look as female soldiers should. I dislike the other companies portrayal of female soldiers as strippers, female soldiers wear the same clothing as male soldiers as to not differentiate between sex at a distance and pure uniformity.

The goggle soldier looks perfect for Tona Criid from the Gaunts Ghosts series.

Keep up the great work, looking forward to when these come up for sale!!

Those are truly stellar. The flak armor one is the best, but I do love them all.

I hate to say it, but I totally agree with Daniel Holmes. What follows is a photo of a female soldier in combat.



I mean, look at how that oozes sexuality! Pinup waist, skin tight and revealing clothing, the smoldering look of lust on her face. I mean, even the body language screams eff me. Victoria, that's how you need to do a female soldier. A stripper in fatigues.


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Sorry, just looked at the photo and realized none of that is true.

Keep doing what you're doing Victoria. I served with women downrange and I'm sick to my guts of fashionistas with body armor. Do women some justice. And the greens look great. I don't think thinning the legs or shrinking the hands any further would be required. They read as female without reading as cheesecake as is.

I would say that Victoria Miniatures and RH are two different ends of the hobby, neither is wrong just different takes on the miniature world.

However this is Vic's thread and Vic's style which is a great in its own right, if you want RH style go to their thread.

Now back to topic I know this sounds odd but will you be doing a heavier built woman for heavy weapon carriers ?

Will you be adding a woman kilt unit as well ? I was thinking the woman could wear Tartan trousers instead just to make them stand out a little more from the men.

Don't be absurd. Women don't wear kilts...
Skirts are for men!

Love it! I wasn't following your range of minis with that much attention but after this last pic with the female soldiers, wow, color me impressed.

I admit, I'm a fan of the cheesiness that's RH and awesome over the top stuff like AK wielding Cat-Girls in a bikini ( ) but we need more stuff like this!

There's a severe lack of real looking professional female soldiers on the market that don't look like either like a hot model or a man with breasts and a somewhat female face and yours are fantastic looking models!

Great work, keep it up!

noneoftheabove0 wrote:I hate to say it, but I totally agree with Daniel Holmes. What follows is a photo of a female soldier in combat.

Many thanks for the awesome pic.

lone dirty dog wrote:

Now back to topic I know this sounds odd but will you be doing a heavier built woman for heavy weapon carriers ?

Will you be adding a woman kilt unit as well ? I was thinking the woman could wear Tartan trousers instead just to make them stand out a little more from the men.

I don't intend to diss RH, as you say, it is a different product. If people want to buy both, its fine with me
I will try adding special weapons and see how it looks.
I want to try the women in kilts option. again it will be a trial and error process.
Cheers,
V