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There's a new Dave's Hobby Tips, out, for painting DZ terrain:
Pretty good, but would have been nicer to see his painting technique. I'm painting some at the moment and am just whitewashing everything for now while thinking about what sort of shading to use on it.
I'm even toying with the idea of a gloss varnish to give everything a ceramic look to it... might look too tacky, though.
Can't wait for my Secret weapon board to arrive so I can complete the whole board and have the desert colony look I planned back when the Ks was running.
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I'm also pretty worried about the plastic enforcers since they failed to list them on the survey. In fact, the one thing I found in abundance on the two surveys was shenanigans.
Plastic enforcers aren't listed individually on the survey because, like every other unit that is in one of the boosters bar the Sorak, we're not allowed to buy them individually anymore, presumably in an effort to reduce mispacks. Thought that was pretty obvious?
Are you guys serious? This has literally been covered once every couple days. In fact I asked Mantic directly and posted their response here for all to see. I guess I should post this every other day so that it doesn't get buried by people saying Peacekeepers will cost $35 for 5.
Doug Craig
hey Mantic - is there any update on the hard plastic Enforcers? my first survey still has tons of restic Enforcers including individual poses, and I'm holding off on completing my second survey until the hard plastic Enforcers are finalized. you've previously mentioned that, assuming hard plastic Enforcers are good, the basic restic poses will get replaced with hard plastic. is that still the plan? if they are good tools and Mantic will release them, people like myself (who got several individual restic Enforcer poses) will get to swap for the hard plastic? and will the hard plastic sprue then become available on the survey to purchase?
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Naw, I think we got the 5 for $35 sorted out. I never expected to see them that expensive anyway.
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If that's meant to be a neutral unit - like the House Robots on Robot Wars - it's good. If it's a playable team Mantic are still idiots who don't know jack about showmanship.
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Alright guys help me out here. Trying to sort through this massive pile of stuff (finally). How many core world battlezones were supposed to be in each strike box? two? Trying to see what I've got here, I either have too many or not enough.
That's what I thought, it wasn't in my strike boxes, but then it was outside of them, I have to count everything, but rough pile math tells me I should have 8, the 4 from strike x 2 and 4 more, which is correct. I think the only stuff I'm missing obviously at this point is stuff they were apparently still out of.
Thanks
Anybody know who this is?
Spoiler:
I think it's supposed to be a dreadball mvp but I can't seem to match it up.
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GrimDork wrote: That's what I thought, it wasn't in my strike boxes, but then it was outside of them, I have to count everything, but rough pile math tells me I should have 8, the 4 from strike x 2 and 4 more, which is correct. I think the only stuff I'm missing obviously at this point is stuff they were apparently still out of.
Thanks
Though odd that you can buy everything in retail stores... They could have at least sent you everything since you've already waited so long.
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I'm missing the helfather and chovar, several accessory sprues, and the rebs faction booster bundle. The rest of it I can get over (temporarily, until it shows up probably on the second shipment) but the missing rebs booster bundle pisses me off. And what doesn't make sense is that the things that I'm missing are clearly marked on the invoice/shipping paper thing with 'owe' in red pen, whereas everything else has a little check or tick next to it. I'm not sure how they were out of stuff if they waited until they got restocked to send my order, it's a bit confusing. Maybe those few things they didn't have come in and were out of them, but didn't want to wait? Dunno, there will be further emailing though. Certainly no extras for my patience, that much I'm sure of.
And I still can't figure out who this MvP is, it looks like a not-geth? Maybe they're secretly working on a ME boardgame and accidentally slipped a mini in?
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Yeah, finally just found him. Well that's cool at least I also got a much better packed box than everyone else since they sent me what mostly looked like retail stock (faction starters, scenery upgrade packs). I dunno, maybe I technically did get some extras if all of those scenery upgrade packs come with accessory sprues and they still intend to send me all of the sprues I ordered.
I'm a bit butthurt over the rebs boosters missing, starting to get excited again though.
How many mantic points did you guys get in your boxes? It sounded like Ronnie was planning for them to be in there. I got some extras thanks to my retail packaging on the faction starters. Looks like I got those, and two sheets with spaces for 25 points, with the first four filled in, on the back of a fancy deadzone picture the size of a small post card?
I also got the extra 1st 2nd gen and dogs bag, and an extra Orx commander bag or something. I think this was fairly common among those who ordered the boosters though wasn't it? The third part of the booster bundle had your original specialists, and they just give you the whole bag those came in, instead of breaking it up.
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Guess a third of a model beats nuffinks. And the cases are nice, all the bigger size what more comfortably fits 40mm based minis but I'm sure I can sort out a use for them.
I think my extra core world bzs came with the accessory sprue, but not the lz or fortifications bzs. Still its a few more to have now.
I'll have to go through the baggies eventually but w cursory examination says I got everything besides what was marked on the paper.
So, with no communication they knowingly mailed you an incomplete order.... No, "hey we're really sorry but your box is going to be missing some stuff." email? especially a slap in the face considering you could buy the stuff at retail now.
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Yeah I'm gonna send them a message and see what's up. I would have had them send what they did if it would have meant waiting for the other stuff. As much as I'd like it all now, I'd rather get it second survey than wait even a couple of weeks. Gonna be working full time again soon, so having what I have now is superior. Though, yes, communication would have been spiffy
Who knows, maybe that invoice was meant to pass into someone else's hands who would fill in those missing pieces, or perhaps they wouldn't fit... into... the.. box? Meh what am I talking about. I'll just give them an email and see what they say. Just glad to be finally digging into ANYTHING.
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You're a positive person. I hope they sort you out soon.
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I got a postcard which had the box art on one side, and a 5x5 grid over a space for name, email and order number on the other, with the first 4 squares in the grid already filled by default.
I posted on their forums about how they should make it possible to get into the game with the teams the customer wants instead of being stuck with the two teams Mantic wants, and his response was that you can already buy all the components separately. There's just one problem: Dreadball with thirty pounds of teams you don't want and Dreadball with no teams costs the same bloody amount.
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Does anyone know if the Mars Attacks intact building sprues have open doors/windows like the Deadzone ones do? The tile concept art makes it look all solid. I'm hoping that's just how it was drawn. Otherwise they're going to effective be just kind of lame little boxes. Thanks!
I posted on their forums about how they should make it possible to get into the game with the teams the customer wants instead of being stuck with the two teams Mantic wants, and his response was that you can already buy all the components separately. There's just one problem: Dreadball with thirty pounds of teams you don't want and Dreadball with no teams costs the same bloody amount.
It's a problem with a lot of games that I wish there was a solution to; the 2 player starters for DZC, FSA, Flames of War, 40k just off the top of my head give you a copy of the rules (not 40k), some dice, some templates, some quick reference sheets and two specific teams of minis for their cost. If you want a different team, you need to buy a 1 team starter army/battlebox/patrol fleet/etc which has the same or slightly more minis as one of the starter box armies, but costs nearly as much, and doesn't give you rules, templates or any of the additional stuff which you then need to add on. Depending on the game, that cost ranges from annoying to prohibitively expensive.
Through their own webstores they should be able to offer the "basegame contents plus pick your 2 factions" custom kit, which should be easy for Mantic (both Dreadball and Deadzone) at least in the warehouse given the way they put together the Xmas boxes from crates of baggies, but with enough different armies to choose from it makes it difficult and expensive to make one of every combination ready to ship to retailers.
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NTRabbit wrote: Through their own webstores they should be able to offer the "basegame contents plus pick your 2 factions" custom kit, which should be easy for Mantic at least in the warehouse given the way they put together the Xmas boxes from crates of baggies, but with enough different armies to choose from it makes it difficult and expensive to make one of every combination ready to ship to retailers.
They don't need to make every combination for retail, but even if they did that would only be four permutations per season. And making a combination would be dirt cheap. Each season would require five boxes, four of which they have to make anyway:
The "Home field" box - that season's rulebook, cards, dice, pitch, counters, etc.
Team #1
Team #2
Team #3
Team #4
Put the Home Field box, Team #1 box and Team #2 box in a pile. Print out a wraparound strip that says something like "Dreadball Xtreme Season 1 starter bundle: Asterians Vs Convicts!" Shrink wrap the whole thing. Done.
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We're talking about the company that made a 40 quid alternative "elemental" chess game with only 1 Bishop, 1 Knight, etc,, per colour, asking you to buy 15 quid chess-pieces expansions to get a complete set of chess-figures for each colour.
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I posted on their forums about how they should make it possible to get into the game with the teams the customer wants instead of being stuck with the two teams Mantic wants, and his response was that you can already buy all the components separately. There's just one problem: Dreadball with thirty pounds of teams you don't want and Dreadball with no teams costs the same bloody amount.
Couldn't you just buy the game board and the kickoff extra time which contains the cards you need to play? That's about 5 pounds cheaper than the DB kick-off edition on their website but the KO edition doesn't have cards. So it's probably different by a larger margin
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