Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - Completed! - $1,216,482 final total.

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**Cyporiean**

kilcin wrote:
Cyporiean wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
I'm just waiting for the Teratons to show up!

Soon Enough!

Lovely lady with insider knowledge, any chance the Nameless will show up?

They weren't in anything I've seen, but I'd say they have a good chance of showing up down the road if there is enough demand.

Ver-myn are the only thing that was stated to not be in *this* version of Deadzone.

**nkelsch**

Alpharius wrote:
Will you also acknowledge improvement and quality when you see it too?

I hope?

Because if not, well, you can see how it can get a bit tiresome.

I do, When they have good sculpts, I say it. I have said very good things about the Dreadball Season 2 sculpts... And then they in the same email released Cathorse which was a terrible model.

So while they can make some good sculpts, the trend is not 'constantly improving' or 'being consistently better' because they are still hit or miss. They make a bunch of spot on stuff and then their new KS launches with fundamentally flawed models.

**Azazelx**

Earth Dragon wrote:
I feel they stalled on stretch goals to see how they should be spaced, which is essentially BS as that's not "funding" jack diddly squat. I would like to know what the extra funds are going towards. It's a KS. The extra funds should be going towards the game. Why are we not already funding additional factions/options?

KS is a meta-game now. Both sides often have an entitlement mentality (not just the backers). They've already worked out all their goals, I'm sure, but they're holding them back to space them out in order to keep the campaign moving as much as possible for the biggest end outcome - it's not at all about just getting enough money to fund a book or a boardgame or whatever. The first, last (and only) time you'll have seen actual stretch goals in a Mantic KS was the KoW one.

**Alpharius**

Waiting for Teratons and Terrain Add Ons - and then... well, it will be bad news for the gaming budget, but great news for the gaming table!

**Alfndrate**

I'm actually curious as to how well this game will look on the Tablescapes tiles...

**scarletsquig**

Azazelx wrote:
Of course, if they're thinking of setting those boxes at $40 a pop RRP, then they might find this game dies in the arse. I suspect that the fake "unlocks" this campaign provides may bump up the retail value for "everyone" by the time this ends. No need to stress at this stage.

I'd say the $40 price tag is more down to them having to incorporate shipping fees into the pledge level (and it does say shipping included, they're not claiming it's free). They have a flat rate per-person fee to ship to both US and UK from their new courier setup, at $15 per package, regardless of package size and number of shipments. They had this shipping fee separate for the Loka KS, but it was a bit of a pain, probably best that they've included it in the pledge levels this time.

So, I'd imagine $25 RRP for a faction + $15 shipping... and then you have the $65 scientist for $50 RRP no-frills boxed game + $15 shipping.

Much better to go for the bigger pledges on this. Not many people ever bother with the low-end "no stretch goal freebie" pledges anyway.

**Alpharius**

Azazelx wrote:
Of course, if they're thinking of setting those boxes at $40 a pop RRP, then they might find this game dies in the arse. I suspect that the fake "unlocks" this campaign provides may bump up the retail value for "everyone" by the time this ends. No need to stress at this stage.

**Earth Dragon**

8 EBs left of the premium package.

**Nick Ellingworth**

So only another 12k to go before the specialists are unlocked.

**Azazelx**

scarletsquig wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Of course, if they're thinking of setting those boxes at $40 a pop RRP, then they might find this game dies in the arse. I suspect that the fake "unlocks" this campaign provides may bump up the retail value for "everyone" by the time this ends. No need to stress at this stage.

I'd say the $40 price tag is more down to them having to incorporate shipping fees into the pledge level (and it does say shipping included, they're not claiming it's free). They have a flat rate per-person fee to ship to both US and UK from their new courier setup, at $15 per package, regardless of package size and number of shipments. They had this shipping fee separate for the Loka KS, but it was a bit of a pain, probably best that they've included it in the pledge levels this time.

So, I'd imagine $25 RRP for a faction + $15 shipping... and then you have the $65 scientist for $50 RRP no-frills boxed game + $15 shipping.
Much better to go for the bigger pledges on this. Not many people ever bother with the low-end "no stretch goal freebie" pledges anyway.

Nah, that's doesn't really jibe well with the $150 level and it's contents. Regardless, if we accept your explanation, that makes the $40 set a terribad deal, since would mean you'd be able to get it from any UK online discounter for $22,50/14.50UKP with free worldwide shipping. Possibly before it's even shipped to backers.

The figures are an interesting lot so far. Of the sculpted and shown models, the small infected look awful, as does the not-terminator Captain (or his arms, anyway). I'm not sure I trust Mantic's concept art enough anymore unless they start showing sculpts before the end of this...

**Cyporiean**

Alfndrate wrote:
I'm actually curious as to how well this game will look on the Tablescapes tiles...

I think it would work quite well with the Urban Streets sets.

Especially if you grab one of the 2x2 'Display Board' options while they are still available for $50.

**scarletsquig**

Azazelx wrote:

Nah, that's doesn't really jibe well with the $150 level and it's contents. Regardless, if we accept your explanation, that makes the $40 set a terribad deal, since would mean you'd be able to get it from any UK online discounter for $22,50/14.50UKP with free worldwide shipping. Possibly before it's even shipped to backers.

$40 level will have stretch goal freebies which you won't get at retail, it already gets an extra mini at $125k. Terrible deal, currently, but by that logic, the $150 level is a terrible deal currently.

There's not really much point bothering with a debate which will look really stupid once the KS is at $1 mil and drowning in free minis.

**Azazelx**

Alpharius wrote:

I think you're spot on with the whole 'fake unlocks' thing - but...

..."Dies in the arse"?

Er...OK?

Did I type that? Heh, it's after 1am here now, going on 2am. I usually make an effort to be slightly more polite here. It's fairly common Aussie slang, which means "fails badly". I'm obviously not meaning the KS, but the game at retail.

**DaveC**

I notice the $500 Captain level of which there are 10 allows you to design your own Enforcer or Enforcer Captain and 1 is already sold so it looks like we'll be seeing other Captain miniatures at least.

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They just added Early Bird 7 Strike Team another 100 for $146.

**Azazelx**

scarletsquig wrote:
Azazelx wrote:

Nah, that's doesn't really jibe well with the $150 level and it's contents. Regardless, if we accept your explanation, that makes the $40 set a terribad deal, since would mean you'd be able to get it from any UK online discounter for $22,50/14.50UKP with free worldwide shipping. Possibly before it's even shipped to backers.

$40 level will have stretch goal freebies which you won't get at retail, it already gets an extra mini at $125k.

I'd hope they go into the starter sets as well, since, as I said, they're poor value as they stand - even if you deduct the "$15 shipping" from them. We'll have a better view of how much Mantic value them as once they get offered as stretch add-ons anyway. Really though, our discussion at this stage is probably redundant since the campaign hasn't done anything significant yet. In 2 weeks when things have unlocked and the add-ons have made an appearance and they've talked more about how we've added x, y and z to the retail packs for everyone in perpetutity we can talk value a little more usefully. At this point, the couple of add-on figures at $125k take the value at all pledge levels from Very Poor to Still Very Poor.

**overtyrant**

I said to Jake Thornton at salute that instead of doing only 100/200 early birds why dont you add more in increments and behold lol...

**judgedoug**

I quite like the Plague little guys. They have a stupid pink paint job, but imagining them with darker skin and torn and stained clothes... the minis are quite nice and well detailed.

**Nick Ellingworth**

Yeah the plague paintjob really doesn't help them, something more subdued would look much nicer IMO.

**decker_cky**

Yeah, I think the little plague guys are the best part of the whole set.

**Gitzbitah**

Did anyone else notice the Plague 3rd gen are only wearing pants?

I'm totally painting them blue and calling them Jeanstealers.

**Agent_Tremolo**

This might well be the first time a Mantic kickstarter gets my interest - I might end up tossing some cash into this.

I'm pleased with most of the concepts and minis shown so far. Heck, even the orx look sweet (despite I've always thought Mantic's obsession with recycling GW's factions is what keeps the otherwise great Warpath from taking flight on its own). Might be worth checking for that Ripper suit alone.

**Compel**

I'm definitely going for a mass effect inspired paint scheme for my models.

Interesting thing... This looks like it has matched gates of Antares full run.... in an afternoon

**Nick Ellingworth**

Boom 125 already! Ok mantic what you got for us now?

**squall018**

And we just blew past 125k.

**RoninXiC**

125,000 done.

**judgedoug**

Compel wrote:
I'm definitely going for a mass effect inspired paint scheme for my models.

Interesting thing... This looks like it has matched gates of Antares full run.... in an afternoon

Eye candy - does it every time.

I hope Gates of Antares relaunches this summer, with lots of sculpts and digital designs of the sprues or something.

**Triszin**

wheres the next goal?!

**Rolt**

judgedoug wrote:
Compel wrote:
I'm definitely going for a mass effect inspired paint scheme for my models.

Interesting thing... This looks like it has matched gates of Antares full run.... in an afternoon

Eye candy - does it every time.

I hope Gates of Antares relaunches this summer, with lots of sculpts and digital designs of the sprues or something.

It should hopefully relaunch before the end of the year, warlord games had some of the sculpts at this years Salute and they have said the project is still active. They are still working on GoA but in more of a "slow and steady" manner, I'm curious
if they are still involving the community in the project since the GoA forums have been pretty much dead lately.

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Update: Next two goals

$150,000 – Accessory Scenery Sprue
If we hit $150,000, we’ll be able to tool the Accessory sprue for the Deadzone scenery – and upgrade one of your sprues!

The accessory sprue will contain all manner of gubbinz like barrels and crates, but also “half” tiles that can be used as walkways and barricades – great for detailing your battlefield and adding extra cover for your ground troops!

$175,000 – Deadzone Faction Support

If we hit this goal, we will be able to tool the deployable automated Enforcer Sentry Guns, Plague Hounds, Mawbeast Bombers and Rebs Drones!

We will add 2 each of these support models to your faction starters, meaning you get 2 extra models at Scout ($40), 4 extra models at Recon ($100) and 8 extra models at Strike Team ($150)!

We’ve got plenty more great stretches coming up where we will be giving more stuff away – you can never have enough scenery in our eyes

Dogs with chainsawssss!!!

**RoninXiC**

Nice, nice

Unfortunately it's not an additional sprue of terrain, just a change of one of the already included.

But.. still sweet

**squall018**

The mawbeast bombers look like they have chainsaws for tongues... I don't even know if thats cool or not, but its there. Really love the rebel drones.