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**Talizvar**

I know, but the image sums it up so well: some are rage selling still, I want to forget for about a year and it may still not be long enough.

**Cypher-xv**

I just want all my stuff and be done with PB. If they do another ks and combine the last two eras I'm still up in the air about spending a few bucks for some alphas. Sigh

**Mike1975**

Forar wrote:
Two more days of this, eh?

Hooray.

Considering the typical discussion here I would think this would be an improvement.

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Manchu wrote:
Mike -- I'll take green/white dice rather than yellow/black dice.

Thanks!

Done

**Forar**

Man, it's over 4 pages long. You could make this a lot easier by simply having a single post somewhere (say, the swap shop) and just linking to it with a few of the pertinent details present. Do we really need the full buyer list every time? Or the cost data?

"Hi, looking for malcontent dice to go with the Zentraedi and RDF/UEDF dice? Click here! (linky!)

*insert small pics*

ta da!

Wait... no... time to go Palladium Fan on this...

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There.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/616137.page#7222817

http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2014/9/22/56e3027b0deee654f43d6948b0e691d2_67621.png__thumb

That seriously took maybe 3-5 minutes.

Edit: now, granted, this one itself is less than idea in that you can't edit it, but you can easily copy/paste into the first reply and I can just kill the opening. Or you could start one yourself.

Point being, there are better ways to convey the information than by spamming multiple forums with 2-4+ page walls of text that don't apply to 99% of the people who might come across it.

**Merijeek**

Now now. Is there anything more appropriate to this project than the person trying to run it flopping around pathetically and them someone else having to manage the communication for them for free?

**Morgan Vening**

Merijeek wrote:
Now now. Is there anything more appropriate to this project than the person trying to run it flopping around pathetically and them someone else having to manage the communication for them for free?

Actually, I found the homage to Kevin's Weekly Updates to be spot on. 95% cut and paste, up to the reader to discern any differences, but with so much repeated information from post to post, the eyes glaze over, and you forget that you weren't always at war with Eurasia.... I mean that a release date has quietly been shifted.

Or not. Kevin's forgotten to update RRT, it still says September for retail.

**Mike1975**

Or someone thinks this will be a quick project and does not give a crap about presentation or Jackasses that have small petty complaints?

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the repetitive list FYI has already helped 2 people that might have been left off.

**RiTides**

Okay guys, 2 more days is fine while the order is still about to be placed, but after that the dice order probably needs it's own thread elsewhere (feel free to link to it in here, of course!). Thanks

**Joyboozer**

I'm not sure about the dice Mike, could you write up an update on how everyone who seen them said they were the best dice ever? Especially if that was the exact words they used.
Without that, it just doesn't feel like Robotech RPG RRT TM Etc...

**judgedoug**

How dare you offer a service to your fellow gamers Mike

Custom dice at cost

What a jerk

**Forar**

*facepalm*

Offering a service is no big deal.

(Subjectively) spamming this thread, the comments and elsewhere with piles of superfluous information isn't exactly engendering good will.

My point wasn't that he shouldn't do it, but that there were better ways to do it.

Go click on the little image of the dice I whipped up. BAM, takes you right to the thread! If Mike puts that in his forum signatures then every post he makes (aside from the KS comments) becomes an advertisement.

It's about 'fighting smarter, not harder', as it were. Having one page where the information is updated means just being able to post "hey guys, new info on the dice, check it out *here*" rather than copy/pasting 4 pages of text and expecting people to peruse it for what changes might exist.

**Mike1975**

I was only annoyed with Merijerk, not you Forar. You had a valid point on the pics, like I said I did not think about shrinking the images and I would not have done it even if I had. The list on the other hand needs to be reposted as to not accidently miss anyone. I missed 2 this weekend when my laptop went kaput and had to buy a new one.

**Talizvar**

I think the dice are a good side project and would provide scary contrast to the topic at hand. It is already ahead of the game with no descriptions of "mouth watering".

I will probably kick myself for not being overly concerned with the third faction.

Well, the PB reminder to ensure the shipping addresses are up to date is sounding almost responsible. So cargo containers should pretty much go according to schedule, wonder how much staff to pack-rate they will be at.

At least we can be distracted by something shiny so hopefully they will "surprise" us with Wave 2. Still expecting them to figure out how to push that shipping cost onto someone else. Makes me not as upset when going to Showdown they increased shipping cost.

Funny seeing the pictures of the parts in China: will the destroids be in all those individual boxes or will we get a bunch'o sprues dumped in a box? It is looking like the former.

In the meantime, being jerks to Mike will help pass the time... his guilt by association is more than enough reason...

**Mike1975**

As an aside, the less than stellar Command Points, I've been using glass beads and thought of using something like these, but not in 18lb bags!, to use as command counters. You could place decals on the flat undersides of the beads and if they are placed on a light colored surface they could really pop and look good.

If you have a dark surface where you can't see the symbol then these might be a waste of $ but if you are placing your Command Points on a light colored surface these could look pretty cool.

UEDF -- Just add decals
http://www.save-on-crafts.com/cleargems.html

Zen -- Just add decals
http://www.save-on-crafts.com/glassvasegems3.html

Malcontents -- Just add decals
http://www.save-on-crafts.com/vasegems9.html

Possible Decals
Look under House Steiner
http://www.fightingpirannhagraphics.com/is.htm

http://www.redbubble.com/people/dumoque/works/12229203-imperial-fists-4?country_code=US&p=sticker&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=google_products&utm_source=google&gclid=CJSegZrI98ACFUZbfgodCXIAjg

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These would also make a good decal
http://www.redbubble.com/people/dumoque/works/11353536-word-bearers-big?ref=work_more_artist_works

**Forar**

It'll be interesting to see how quickly they can start getting things out, and to whom, once Container 2 arrives.

If it's just Battle Cry boxes, or if they do ship to some Showdowns as well. Mostly US/North America, or let backerkit number hold more importance than I (and some others) had assumed they would. I still can't believe that they might push out 8 BC's worth of stuff to a single backer (despite my representing 3, as both of the guys I backed with each pitched in a little cash to be counted in the 'X backers stretch goals'), but it'd be a pleasant surprise to get this in October rather than November or December.

Hell, by the end of the year would be nice at this point, but despite their reassurances, but talk is cheap and it'll take some action to get me back on board for now.

**Sheep**

Ninja div did a post about RRT the this morning (local time) and had some painted minis that looked really good.

Not sure if its been posted before, but if so ignore it.

https://gamepunting.squarespace.com/news/2014/9/17/robotech-kickstarter-unboxing

I like the cell shaded lookj they gave these, and the fact they look like they were painted by a semi-pro, not an infant.

**Korias1004**

If they ever come out with 2nd edition, plus, of the models, where they have condensed the pieces on the sprues so as to be more on par with 40k miniatures then I will probably look back into purchasing some. The models themselves look decent to me.

And I agree with the flat cel-shaded look.

**Forar**

They look a bit better than I feared, but as a novice, I still see seams and flash trimming necessary per figure and... ugh, I'm going to be at this for weeks to build the stuff I have coming, possibly months, depending on how much free time I can commit to it.

Even if I just keep roughly half of the ~210 or so figures coming to me in wave one. Hopefully Toronto/the GTA has a fairly bustling interest in some boxes, 'cause I'm going to have a fair number to put on the local market.

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Update #158

Sep 23 2014

Fire at the Port of LA – Container #2 Is OK

As some of you may have heard, there was a big fire at the Port of LA yesterday evening. Fortunately, we’ve been told that shipping containers were not affected. However, it has caused some problems at the port, and they may affect our delivery schedule in the following ways:

Container #2, which was supposed to be picked up from the terminal last Thursday, is still there at the terminal. We got word yesterday that due to a shortage of trailer chassis for containers to be placed on, the transport service wasn’t able to pick up the container because it wasn’t put “on wheels” until Monday. They were trying to get an appointment time to pick it up on Monday, but were unable to get one before the fire. Now the terminal is closed due to the fire, workers were evacuated, etc. We are monitoring the situation and will let you know when we have a new ETA for delivery of container #2 to our warehouse. It seems likely that it will be delayed by at least a few days, but we are hoping for the end of next week.

Container #3 is scheduled to reach the port next Monday, but it is headed for the same terminal. Hopefully, things will be back to normal by then and the congestion caused by the terminal’s closure will be cleared, but it is quite possible that it will be delayed as well. We hope to know more in the next few days.

Containers #4 and up should not be affected by this terminal closure, as they will be handled differently, shipped by rail directly to Detroit (meaning they’ll be transferred directly from the ship to a train, and clear Customs in Chicago or Detroit).

Needless to say, this is frustrating for all of us. When we know more, I’ll come on here and let you all know. When the next container finally arrives, we’ll start shipping as quickly as we can to as many of you as possible.

Address corrections have been flooding in since the Update I posted last night, and that’s awesome. Please keep them coming as soon as you can, so we can be ready to ship when the next container does come in. Thank you.

You can't make this gak up, guys.

**FacelessMage**

As a non backing bystander all I have to say is:

Wow. Just Wow.

**Morgan Vening**

FacelessMage wrote:
As a non backing bystander all I have to say is:

Wow. Just Wow.

As an ex-backing bystander, I have to say I think it's cool that PB finally seem to have realized that keeping backers informed of issues in a timely manner, is preferable to silence. Sure, there are people mocking them, but most of that is based on prior performance, and more than a little schadenfreude. I give them props for informing their backers, though. Even if it is clouded a little by the recognition that C2 was delayed anyway (was supposed to go last Friday) and they didn't mention it in the prior Update. But it's definitely an improvement.

**warboss**

Any bets on whether the "we will ship to distributors/retailers for the make or break holiday shopping season.. I'm sure you'll understand" update will happen before, during, or after the Black Friday holiday shopping season official start? That should be right around the time container 3 gets to them.

**Cypher-xv**

Well according to Wayne that's not going to happen because all pledges will go out by oct. So yeah I do expect another vote. Talk about the Crises of Murphy's Law.

**Joyboozer**

I'd vote yes if it was accompanied by a post from Kevin admitting that thanks to all their mistakes made the only way they can turn it around is to go retail first. And by admission, I mean I would want mouth watering details on how 98% of all problems are because of him.

**Kendachi**

Joyboozer wrote:
I'd vote yes if it was accompanied by a post from Kevin admitting that thanks to all their mistakes made the only way they can turn it around is to go retail first. And by admission, I mean I would want mouth watering details on how 98% of all problems are because of him.

But, but... how can that happen? Kevin NEVER makes mistakes!

**warboss**

He actually did admit to making mistakes that lead to delays. A few months before the Northern Gun book came out TWO YEARS late, he said he was sorry but the delays were his fault... BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS FANS AND WANTED TO GIVE THEM THE BEST BOOK EVAR! He said he learned his lesson and won't take the extra time to double the page count (but neglected to focus on the fact that the 200% page count was accompanied by a 2000% delay over the initial crowdfunded delivery date) and won't do it again. It was textbook manipulation along the lines of "he only hits you because he loves you!" and was classic Palladium cowpie.

**Sining**

Wait...how does a fire at the port yesterday evening affect the container #2 not being picked up LAST thurs?

**warboss**

Because it was never picked up like it was supposed to be. The date was supposedly moved to THIS monday which is the date of the fire. I'm sorry but the timing of all this and the story coming from Palladium will always sound fishy but in any case they get another heaping dose of karma that they have earned.

**Mike1975**

So I have good news for you all. Before starting all this I asked PB if they had plans on making some Malcontent dice. Since they had no immediate plans I started up this thread. I thought it would be good if we got good dice for cheap and also a bit bad since they would not have the correct symbol on them.

So I started this thinking a few of us could pool some $ and save on cost to buy some gaming dice. I would not buy them at $2 each once you include shipping and all. Too expensive for me. As we started this I never really thought so many of you would want the dice. I was figuring 5 or 6, maybe more. The list has gotten large. Large enough that shipping this all over and managing this by myself would be kinda of a pain with me with little kids and in school and all.

The good news is that PB has noticed that we have a large group desiring these dice. They have a good idea of what we want too. So PB has asked me to hold off so that they can check on a few things and get their ducks lined up so that they can see about a small run of "Official" Malcontent dice for us all to buy. These dice will likely be a bit more but they will have the official symbol on then which is what I really wanted in the first place. They just ask us to give them a bit of time to work the details out since the idea of Malcontent dice was not really on the forefront of their minds.

I'm even going to send them the name and email of the guy I was working with at Chessex to move it along. Hopefully they can even work something out to get the pips and all in black on the green dice.

**Joyboozer**

Congrats mike, you led the horse to water and you made him drink.

**stanman**

Forget engraved fist logos, I think we need to start a movement to get Palladium to make some custom "98%" dice for us.

Nobody would ever have to fear you rolling a Crit as the best you ever get is just 98%