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Hogun wrote:

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

It would actually be better for Resin Forge to keep Mandelbaum on staff, while making available information such as their business registration, which people could verify independently.

That won't be necessary, at least not if you go by their "likes" on Facebook which are steadily increasing. I guess he/ they found new places to post their models to attract new fans.

...if RF are reading this where are your pictures from the HH weekender? Post them and a picture of your tickets. Show the world that you can tell the truth.

Agreed, they have failed to show any of their own pictures from the HH weekender for a while now. It does not take this long to get the pictures up; if they really do have three people working at RF, then it would be even easier to have one person load up the pictures as would be their job to maintain the website/FB page.

So when can we expect the HH weekender pics RF? All you have shown us so far have been yoinked from other people's pictures.

Hogun wrote:

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

It would actually be better for Resin Forge to keep Mandelbaum on staff, while making available information such as their business registration, which people could verify independently.

That won't be necessary, at least not if you go by their "likes" on Facebook which are steadily increasing. I guess he/ they found new places to post their models to attract new fans.

. Or maybe RF or with the help of some blinded fans. Have made a number of fake facebook accounts to get their "likes" up. To more then when all this started. If RF are reading this where are your pictures from the HH weekender? Post them and a picture of your tickets. Show the world that you can tell the truth.

More likely it's just from what they "MAY HAVE ALLEGEDLY" done to get 2k likes to begin with, you can buy fb likes for something like 1k for $5.

If he got 2000+ likes in 5 months before all this mess started, comparitively since he was 'outted' it's just dripping in.

One wonders how a niche company in a niche market gets 2000+ likes in 5 months, but whatever. Wish there was a cache to see when those likes came in, just out of curiosities sake if nothing else, I can blame the guy for a lot of stuff but getting likes on his account through whatever means isn't a crime.

In comparison, Bitz Barn which has been around for years only has 153 likes, Tabletop Gaming News which appeals to infinitely more people than RF has 5360 likes, and Bolter & Chainsword which again has been around forever only has 1806 likes.

So once can easily estimate that RF's "like" count is BS. Most of the people who do post on that site have 3 friends on FB or have private profiles.

Well given that they have managed to upload pictures of their latest conversions and not a single one from the HH weekend i think its safe to say they didn't take any ,so i think its safe to say they weren't actually there .

As to their alleged satisfied customers i notice that the guy who said he was a real customer and would post pictures of his order when it arrived has posted them to his FB page (again that super speedy international postal service, Texas to Switzerland this time ) and yes there are some bits of FW stuff on a table (nothing from the HH weekend and most definitely not a Fulgrim ) so i will await RF misquoting me on their page about me not believing in their customers and what a terrible person i am

You see you had your chance RF i offered you an opportunity to send me a personal message from your Warseer account to help clear the air and get your side in the open (but obviously you don't want too why is that ?) not even a S*d o*f and leave me alone message

So this weekend i have some free time (and believe me when i say i get really bored on Saturdays now that the football season is over for my team) i'm going to look up Tax Law in the good old state of Texas (and all those finagling things like registering a business etc) and then i'm going to send them along to whoever it is that i discover who should know about these things

Have (as they say) a nice day

RF now asking FW about an order for some Palatine Blades from the HH weekender, which FW have pointed out that were not available at the Weekender.............. Interesting....

But he can't speak to FW as he needs a new phone card ???????? I am so glad i live in the UK and can just pick up a phone and dial an international number

 Savagecoyote wrote:
But he can't speak to FW as he needs a new phone card ???????? I am so glad i live in the UK and can just pick up a phone and dial an international number

In his defense many US call plans (both home and cell) can prohibit international calls. My wife and I have phone cards on stand-by in case I need to chat to someone back home.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Savagecoyote wrote:
But he can't speak to FW as he needs a new phone card ???????? I am so glad i live in the UK and can just pick up a phone and dial an international number

In his defense many US call plans (both home and cell) can prohibit international calls. My wife and I have phone cards on stand-by in case I need to chat to someone back home.

hmmm i suppose. though if your business is selling things you have to import from the UK would it not be easier to be able to phone them than the process of e mails back and forth ( and please tell me that the White House had direct dial i would hate to face Nuclear annihilation and have them have to send out for a Phone card )

RF now asking FW about an order for some Palatine Blades from the HH weekender, which FW have pointed out that were not available at the Weekender.............. Interesting....

Link or screenshot please.

i notice that the guy who said he was a real customer and would post pictures of his order when it arrived has posted them to his FB page (again that super speedy international postal service, Texas to Switzerland this time ) and yes there are some bits of FW stuff on a table (nothing from the HH weekend and most definitely not a Fulgrim )

Ah yes. Isn't that Fulgrim's standard down there?



That was obviously a joke Here for comparison the Fulgrim components:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/product/pdf/fulgriminst.pdf

to be fair i don't think he's claiming thats Fulgrim !!!!


But in Exciting news i have had a message from them (or more correctly 3 2 to my warseer and 1 to the gmail ) timed at 21 03, 21 07 and 21 32 and as i said i would do here they are completely unedited
the 21 03 first......
" http://imgur.com/a/exHPs

And to quote it:

Actually, just read your own post.

That was you 2 days before "wanting to help".

Thanks but no thanks. And have fun with the Texas tax laws. We are already covered there as well but really by all means, spend your free time doing research! From the UK no less. We would have talked with you openly but you, based on the above screen cap (you, not the top person) proves you are biased from the get go.

Thanks again, but no thanks. Do not contact us here again.

PS Your never online and when we search for your user name it wouldn't come up. Also notice how the customers that bought the Fulgrims we got havent complained to Lex or anyone else? Or the fact there were EIGHT people publicly stating they would sell us the fulgrims they got? Although we didnt get nearly those full 8, its obvious you guys dont get your facts correct. Add in this quote as well about multiple owners:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum...30/523568.page

The exact quote:

I spoke with 2, both men. Jason and Daniel.

Daniel (I believe, was the original owner that called me and wasnt very polite). From then on I spoke with Jason multiple times, he was always great and always ready to listen to what I had to say. Today, the final call was with Daniel. He apologized for the way he reacted when he originally called.

I liked the fact that he was the one calling to close it off, and not go into hide and avoiding what had happened.

And I am a woman, the entire paypal system is in my name. I call them all the time. The entire talk of fake owners is old at this point. I am only writing you because you are not unbiased as you claim.

Goodbye." (this is all the first message and to point out i had not contacted them in the first place i asked them to contact me!!!!)

Now the 21 07 message......

"We keep getting asked if Daniel has quit. Right now here is the public response:

As of now there is no comment but there is a public one planned and in the works. We simply wish to have legal proof from a firm here in Dallas. We want no nay sayers and no doubt as to who the owners are and with legal documents that can be verified, there should be no problems at all. With that, we will make a public announcement."

and Finally at 21 32.......



" Check your Warseer PMs "Mr. Unbiased' "

See as promised totally unedited nothing removed nothing added ( in fact i will now go and read them myself) the stuff inside the " " is the messages i received (hope that clears the confusion as to who was saying what

 Savagecoyote wrote:
hmmm i suppose. though if your business is selling things you have to import from the UK would it not be easier to be able to phone them than the process of e mails back and forth ( and please tell me that the White House had direct dial i would hate to face Nuclear annihilation and have them have to send out for a Phone card )

With the sequester you never know

to be fair i don't think he's claiming thats Fulgrim !!!!

We didn't claim that he claimed it was Fulgrim either

As for the rest of your repost: it makes no sense, it'S just rambling somehow. Or I just need a good translator Maybe you can try to put in quotes what was written by who? Does the woman claim to call paypal all the time?!

Also notice how the customers that bought the Fulgrims we got havent complained to Lex or anyone else?

We also haven't seen a SINGLE customer confirm or speak up they received a Fulgrim. So this statement proves how that they went to HH weekender? *puzzled*

LOL, the best part is the last email. Where they sound like there trying to say you missed there emails, and are whining. When all the emails came in after you posted about tax issues. But, the fact the seem to think PM only work while your online, in the first email, is great to, wonder how they turn the computer on in the first place.

i've put the RF messages in quote marks to try to help people make out what was been said if it's any help

@Savagecoyote: I took the liberty to format it like this, does this reflect accurately the content of the messages?

1st message (21:03):

http://imgur.com/a/exHPs

And to quote it:

Actually, just read your own post.

That was you 2 days before "wanting to help".

Thanks but no thanks. And have fun with the Texas tax laws. We are already covered there as well but really by all means, spend your free time doing research! From the UK no less. We would have talked with you openly but you, based on the above screen cap (you, not the top person) proves you are biased from the get go.

Thanks again, but no thanks. Do not contact us here again.

PS Your never online and when we search for your user name it wouldn't come up. Also notice how the customers that bought the Fulgrims we got havent complained to Lex or anyone else? Or the fact there were EIGHT people publicly stating they would sell us the fulgrims they got? Although we didnt get nearly those full 8, its obvious you guys dont get your facts correct. Add in this quote as well about multiple owners:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum...30/523568.page

The exact quote:

I spoke with 2, both men. Jason and Daniel.

Daniel (I believe, was the original owner that called me and wasnt very polite). From then on I spoke with Jason multiple times, he was always great and always ready to listen to what I had to say. Today, the final call was with Daniel. He apologized for the way he reacted when he originally called.

I liked the fact that he was the one calling to close it off, and not go into hide and avoiding what had happened.

And I am a woman, the entire paypal system is in my name. I call them all the time. The entire talk of fake owners is old at this point. I am only writing you because you are not unbiased as you claim.

Goodbye."

(this is all the first message and to point out i had not contacted them in the first place i asked them to contact me!!!!)

2nd message (21:07):

"We keep getting asked if Daniel has quit. Right now here is the public response:

As of now there is no comment but there is a public one planned and in the works. We simply wish to have legal proof from a firm here in Dallas. We want no nay sayers and no doubt as to who the owners are and with legal documents that can be verified, there should be no problems at all. With that, we will make a public announcement."

3rd message (21:32):

" Check your Warseer PMs "Mr. Unbiased' "

Yes thank you that looks much better

Having a bit of trouble getting a pic so just made a copy from Forge Worlds facebook page wall.

Resin Forge Store

What is the word on the Palatines? An single rumor says soon, We just wish to have a rough idea. Can you guys give at least a rough update?

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Forge World Resin Forge store - if you have 'to send' orders that are outstanding then please can you give the customer service team a ring on 0044 115 900 4020 ? They'll be able to chase any outstanding orders up for you. As the Palatine Blades were not available at the Weekender we're not sure what you mean if you're asking when they'll be shipped...

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Resin Forge Store We are asking if they will be at Origins possibly or around that time We also have rang you many, many times and you guys have always been super helpful!

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Forge World The stock has already left for Origins so no, we won't have any there I'm afraid.

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Resin Forge Store But what about the ones ordered from the HH weekend? (THe fulgrims and praetors)

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Forge World Please can you give us a ring Resin Forge Store? Thanks

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Resin Forge Store When we buy another phone card we gladly will Would you enjoy an email right now?

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Resin Forge Store Note - We are not upset at all they are not here yet. We simply wonder when they will arrive to people who ordered them from the HH weekend. Origins is already a goal for us but not yet set in stone, even if just to visit.

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Resin Forge Store Holy do do batman, I NEVER said the palatines were at the HH. I asked if they would be at ORIGINS!

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Resin Forge Store *fingers crossed they are because they are SEXY!*

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Good job, Dan.

Goooooood job.

It's like he expects FW to arc up and what not like he does, communicate in a really unprofessional manner in public, and all that jazz.

RF did edit the following post.......


Resin Forge Store But what about the ones ordered from the HH weekend?

7 hours ago..


Resin Forge Store But what about the ones ordered from the HH weekend? (THe fulgrims and praetors)

3 hours ago


Which if reading the unedited post, reads is asking about the Palatine Blades at the HH weekender.

Trying to get screen shots, from Forge Worlds facebook page, just not working :(

I'd like to attract attention to the passages marked in red. So here we have people desperate for material supposedly ordered at the HH weekender. While not saying precisely which kit the Swiss guy (compare to our previous screenshot please) is still waiting for, we could not see a Fulgrim on the photo he posted. And does anybody else find it quite interesting that this same guy was (confirmed by Resin Forge, see again the last screenshot) the FIRST one to order a Fulgrim from Resin Forge to be brought, but still seems to be waiting for something he very much wants?

And according to Resin Forge's own quote:

We could only get a limited number of a certain kit and none of the other but we did make orders for each.

So that means taken by itself either few Fulgrims and no praetors or few prateors and no Fulgrims. Of course we have the other statements by Resin Forge from the messages. I quote:

Also notice how the customers that bought the Fulgrims we got havent complained to Lex or anyone else? Or the fact there were EIGHT people publicly stating they would sell us the fulgrims they got? Although we didnt get nearly those full 8, its obvious you guys dont get your facts correct.

Which could be interpreted as an acknowledgement that they got Fulgrims. In which case it's quite bitter for the Swiss guy that although he was the first to order he still didn't get anything...

And whatever the Swiss guy so much desires, it seems pretty clear that Resin Forge itself does not have it and wants it...

The Following message was sent to me at 5.41am again it has not been edited or doctored with (though i think there confused who they were sending it too I'm not Lex !!!!)

Lex
First off, you did cut and paste just as you said. We, and even I stand personally corrected.

Second, Lex, and you can quote this, is an idiot.

Dome and I talk daily. He made an order that contained MORE then just fulgrim as well as a bits order. When we both asked FW on its own site when praetors and fulgrims that were ordered at the HH weekend would arrive, Lex took that as we were asking about palatines?

NO.

We were asking if they will be for sale at Origins!

This is why we will not be reading Dakka anymore.

Also, and this can be quoted. Lex, you call us a liar about everything. You ignore customers vouching for us, you have the ability to message Dome and yet you dont. Instead you claim more lies about us.

"
Lexicanum note: Legal proof for? From a firm in Dallas? Raises more questions than it does answer. Possibly a move to dissociate the name "Daniel Mandelbaum" from "Resin Forge". Let's just hope that this time they pick a better legal support than the allegedly fake one they used for their Cease & Desist letter to Dakkadakka forums."

And now making fun of us because we got scammed. We have no choice but to get legal council to show YOU, LEX, proof how the company is now owed by Kim and Jason. Is that what you wanted?

We wont read dakka or the reply, so it really doesn't matter.

To end with something to think of.

Lex, making the news just so you can report the "news" isn't a reporter. Its a stalker. You repost every single thing we do on a public page that anyone can see. Lex, you once said how we told non customers to not post. You start every RF thread on BOTH your FB pages with variations of this:


"+ + + NOTE + + +
Do only proceed if you are interested in updates concerning the Resin Forge - Mandelbaum reporting. All complaints about this are useless, so save your breath.
+ + + NOTE END + + +"

We also have screen shots of you arguing with your own fans who tell you flat out whats the point. You arent actually doing anything but crushing a small company for a person WHO QUIT! That is why we want LEGAL proof that can be verified.

Just 1 of many. http://imgur.com/a/exHPs#8awsuLW

With that, have a great life Lex, you sure do make all germans look great and not nazi like seeing as how Daniel is Jewish and you clearly noticed that. Yet Jason and I are not.

Resin Forge does not need legal council to show that Daniel Mandelbaum is not longer a director/partner with the company. They merely need to publish their business registration number. That will allow people to check for themselves.

I wonder if Daniel realizes that he refers to Kim and Jason as 'Kim and Jason' when supposedly one of them is writing the email lol.

That, or the 100 other tell-tale habits he has that make anyone who has dealt with him before instantly recognize his particular brand of...... how shall I put this................. logic.

FW reached out direct, wanting him to clear up just exactly what he was telling his customers too? That's also pretty telling overall imho.

I would hazard a guess that the last thing Mandelbonder wants is to speak directly to FW - after all, his whole tissue of half truths and obscuring of facts would be removed if he was put on the spot.

As for the emails purporting to be from 'Kim' - he did the same with me - all the PMs were from 'Jason' right up to the point where he slipped up and confirmed it was Daniel...!

But hey, maybe he's like Deadpool - not sure which personality is driving the body...

Lex

Yes, his grasp is not strong on who is who. For him everything is a conspiration orchestrated by Lex

Second, Lex, and you can quote this, is an idiot.

That qualifies as slander, nice We think we will hold him "liable" for this

Dome and I talk daily. He made an order that contained MORE then just fulgrim as well as a bits order. When we both asked FW on its own site when praetors and fulgrims that were ordered at the HH weekend would arrive, Lex took that as we were asking about palatines?

So here he mistakes Hogun for Lex,

NO.

We were asking if they will be for sale at Origins!

This is why we will not be reading Dakka anymore.

That will be a true, true loss. But it's a nice statement proving he was following the whole issue here.

Also, and this can be quoted. Lex, you call us a liar about everything. You ignore customers vouching for us, you have the ability to message Dome and yet you dont. Instead you claim more lies about us.

In fact "Dome" was messaged and put us on the banned list without deigning to answer, so much for that

And now making fun of us because we got scammed. We have no choice but to get legal council to show YOU, LEX, proof how the company is now owed by Kim and Jason. Is that what you wanted?

Fun? No, we take everything absolutely serious. We do seriously and sincerely hope that Resin Forge has a better hand in choosing its next legal support.

Lex, making the news just so you can report the "news" isn't a reporter. Its a stalker. You repost every single thing we do on a public page that anyone can see. Lex, you once said how we told non customers to not post. You start every RF thread on BOTH your FB pages with variations of this:

So if anybody can see it because it is public is stalking now to repost it? We will tell that to our politicians next, if we report on their public statements so that more people can see them, this is stalking

With that, have a great life Lex, you sure do make all germans look great and not nazi like seeing as how Daniel is Jewish and you clearly noticed that. Yet Jason and I are not.

Hehe, there we go That will be a pleasure to report on

With that, have a great life Lex, you sure do make all germans look great and not nazi like seeing as how Daniel is Jewish and you clearly noticed that. Yet Jason and I are not.

Hehe, there we go That will be a pleasure to report on

Niiiiice. Well done there Mandlebonder.

Did a businessman seriously just invoke Godwin's law?
That was rather unprofessional to say the least.

Resin Forge continues to say that Dakkadakka claims they do not have any stock (instead of the truth that the questionable point is their alleged visit to Horus Heresy weekender and that they bought pre-release stuff there).