Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 GarretAsh wrote:
Yup GWS web it still down , I have given up on trying to pre-order from then , I just pre-order a Regular codex version from Total Wargame for £28 with delivery. they have all the new releases way cheaper that from GWS website and they ship them on the 7th . So when i arrive in the Uk in the 18th i will have my new codex in my dinning table.

From what 've read about Total Wargamer that might be slightly optimistic.

I LOL'd

Just got through to payment and then it went haywire, I'm left looking at some sort of table on a website from 'Cybersource Corporation'. Just want to give them £140 for two books. Can't believe how silly I sound

It stands to reason that unless people are heading off down to their local GW store to pre-order the LE editions, they too are experiencing difficulties getting onto the site. Hence, even if you can get click the cart button, it's still gonna take a while to get through the checkout stages.

Finally got onto the site.
I almost had a heart attack when I saw the prices, had to double check that I wasn't on the Australian page. There wasn't anything really exciting either...

Yup - I just about had an anaphylactic shock after seeing the price for the Centurions!

And am I right that they've removed their old line of Stern-/Vanguard sets. Aside from the finecast issues, of which I don't know if the 'guard sets suffered from them, I really liked the sculpts. It'd be a pity if they completely disappeared.

I dont understand where the shock for the centurrions is coming from?

Almost every kit that is similar size is more expensive, even in the plastics. That is not even getting into the finecast Remember each one is on a 50mm base

Tomb Spyders, More expensive - similar size - Plastic

3x crisis suits - smaller by far - 1 dollar less each

If I could access their site, I am sure I could find more examples.

You are getting enough bits to make two units with many different options. In addition as with all of these releases you are getting plenty of bits to convert other things and units if you so desired. Also it looks like the meltas and flamers will fit on a regular marine quite easily. I could go on.

Warpig1815 wrote:As a non-gamer I wouldn't really have a cause to be buying the Codex aside from the fluff/artwork content - which would be a huge waste of money. That said though, I would like to see GW release the LE covers as individual posters/prints whatever. They are pretty fething epic IMHO.

That... is a really good idea. I bought the Salamanders codex, and I would still buy it as a print.

Pacific wrote:Actually.. that's an interesting point. I've made this point before after experience of working with company's that sell 'limited edition' items. Unless you have certification with the product that states that items number out of a total amount, then the 'LE' brand is meaningless beyond being a marketing element.
This is why you can have 'limited edition' packets of crisps, cans of Pepsi and other nonsense, technically it is no such thing.
So.. the clincher will be whether these special codecies have 'limited edition' certification contained with them. Otherwise, technically I don't think there is anything to stop GW making thousands of them - the only way you can run into trouble is if the certification sold with the items itself is not accurate (i.e. if it stated 'of a run of 100' but you actually made 1000 of them etc.)

The product description notes that the back page is a numbered and signed certificate. I know getting to the descriptions is a bit of an issue with the server load, but I promise it's there!

edit: Product description from the page that was cached:

Limited to 500 copies, this special edition of Codex: Space Marines features a battle brother of Salamanders Chapter on the cover. Presented in a soft-touch hardback format, and wrapped in a clear dust jacket, the cover art is always on show.

Each of these 500 books features a numbered end paper and the Salamanders Chapter number and icon on the spine. Gold page edging and a green ribbon bookmark make this a sophisticated collector's piece.

Underline 2 shows the numbering.
Underline 1 does away with this "same book with a special dust jacket" drivel. It's a printed cover with a clear dust jacket.


In other news, HOLY CRAP GW is fast. I received the shipping notification today that my book is on its way!

 Warpig1815 wrote:
Yup - I just about had an anaphylactic shock after seeing the price for the Centurions!

And am I right that they've removed their old line of Stern-/Vanguard sets. Aside from the finecast issues, of which I don't know if the 'guard sets suffered from them, I really liked the sculpts. It'd be a pity if they completely disappeared.

I don't see why people are shocked about the centurions. Based on pics they're roughly dreadnought sized. $78 for three, so each is ~$26. Thats cheaper than the plastic Libby thats comming out.

Oh and looks like Crimsons Fists LE is sold out. Damn...

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:

 Warpig1815 wrote:
Yup - I just about had an anaphylactic shock after seeing the price for the Centurions!

And am I right that they've removed their old line of Stern-/Vanguard sets. Aside from the finecast issues, of which I don't know if the 'guard sets suffered from them, I really liked the sculpts. It'd be a pity if they completely disappeared.

I don't see why people are shocked about the centurions. Based on pics they're roughly dreadnought sized. $78 for three, so each is ~$26. Thats cheaper than the plastic Libby thats comming out.
.

And don't forget that you get 6 extra meltaguns and 6 extra flamers with that [Mod Edit - No Filter "work arounds" please - thanks!] box!

To be honest, this is the most impressed I've been with GW since starting up 40K. Now I'm no fanboy, but I do applaud them for rather sensibly moving back towards plastic - especially the Sternguard/Vanguard kits. Also, I like the way at the bottom of each new release, they're really plugging the 'unique miniatures' side of things. That kinda makes me think that a little bit of thought has gone into the production of these, not simply 'Here buy a kit, we really don't know what you'll do with it, but be sure to buy more later'. Now though, it seems somebody has twigged on that people tend to use bits all over the shop to kitbash and they've twigged on that people are more likely to buy them if they can use the spares on other projects. That, to me, speaks volumes.

@streamdragon - Holy Mother of God! I had a good idea!?! I would buy the codex, but it would be a waste of money for me.

 Warpig1815 wrote:
@streamdragon - Holy Mother of God! I had a good idea!?! I would buy the codex, but it would be a waste of money for me.

No. A really good idea. Then again, I'm the nerd who bought many of the lithographs Bioware put out for Mass Effect. That GW hasn't jumped on the poster train is really a surprising waste of good art.

In other news, HOLY CRAP GW is fast. I received the shipping notification today that my book is on its way!

I think this happened with 6th edition, back then I think it just meant that your order was sitting in their warehouse waiting to be shipped on the day of release.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

In other news, HOLY CRAP GW is fast. I received the shipping notification today that my book is on its way!

I think this happened with 6th edition, back then I think it just meant that your order was sitting in their warehouse waiting to be shipped on the day of release.

Could be. Email said shipped on 31.08.2013, although I guess with no tracking information it makes sense it'd be sitting somewhere still.

So, stupid question... I don't play 40k, but I love the aesthetic, they've always been my favorite models to paint and display, etc...

How good of a value, relatively speaking, is the Strike-Force bundle? I love all the elements, and might even give the game a while if this is a playable amount of "stuff".

For frame of reference, I also own the previous 2-player starter... Black Reach? The one with Orks and Space Marines.

It's about a 30% savings on the models separately, IIRC. It's also sold out many places. It should certainly be a playable amount of stuff.

So... I can use Centurion heads on a standard Space Marine? That's pretty neat...

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Oh and looks like Crimsons Fists LE is sold out. Damn...

The successor LE seems to be still available for me

Having never played 40k, would that Strike Force, plus my previous set, be enough for a decent sized game?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Having never played 40k, would that Strike Force, plus my previous set, be enough for a decent sized game?

A pretty decent army. There'd certainly be enough for a reasonable game.

Two dreads, three tac squads, a scout squad, a terminator squad, a drop pod, a razorback and a captain. That goes a long way. It'd be interesting to see if command squads will be somewhat fun to play in the new 'dex and undoubtedly it'll hardly be the most competitive build ever but I'm sure you'll manage quite a few games with just that, casually.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Having never played 40k, would that Strike Force, plus my previous set, be enough for a decent sized game?

It should be, yes.

Captain x2
Command Squad
Dread x2
Terminator Squad
3x Tac Squad
Scout Squad
Assault Squad
Razorback
Drop Pod

With the current codex, that's about 1500 points completely naked. No options or upgrades what so ever. Depending on load out, you could do 1500 - 1750 easily. Could probably push 2,000 if you needed to, though it would naturally be a bit stretched.

 streamdragon wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Having never played 40k, would that Strike Force, plus my previous set, be enough for a decent sized game?

It should be, yes.

Captain x2
Command Squad
Dread x2
Terminator Squad
3x Tac Squad
Scout Squad
Assault Squad
Razorback
Drop Pod

With the current codex, that's about 1500 points completely naked. No options or upgrades what so ever. Depending on load out, you could do 1500 - 1750 easily. Could probably push 2,000 if you needed to, though it would naturally be a bit stretched.

Aye you would get 1750 out of it easily, so its more than enough.

Regardless, 1000-1500 is easily the most common number of points in a game right? I dont think ive ever had a game past 2000, so its more than ample aye.

 mattyrm wrote:


Aye you would get 1750 out of it easily, so its more than enough.

Regardless, 1000-1500 is easily the most common number of points in a game right? I dont think ive ever had a game past 2000, so its more than ample aye.

Naturally it depends on the group, but we usually do 1750 - 2000ish point games. Take all night, but that's sort of the point.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Leth wrote:
Also Itunes takes a flat 30% of any sales thats why it is more expensive than the kindle versions. But you get additional functionality from it so trade offs.

Almost all of which functionality can be replicated quite readily by using embedded Flash in the epub versions, but we likely won't see that because then there's be no reason for people to buy the more expensive Apple version.

Even though the apple version is only more expensive because Apple take a cut. So you think Games Workshop are trying to funnel sales into Apple products...why, exactly? Did they fake the moon landings too?

 Warpig1815 wrote:
As a non-gamer I wouldn't really have a cause to be buying the Codex aside from the fluff/artwork content - which would be a huge waste of money. That said though, I would like to see GW release the LE covers as individual posters/prints whatever. They are pretty fething epic IMHO.

That would be a great idea , i would probably buy one of each if they here not much expensive.

Glad to see you're saving ~25% with the strike force, even more when I buy it off Spikey bits!

Perhaps GW is deliberately screwing with their site, making you think you won't be able to order the variant cover books in time and making everyone have a mad dash for their overpriced crap as soon as the site gets back up?!?!

/tinfoil hat.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have always loved 40k fluff, aesthetics, etc... but always found myself scared off playing due to the legenday prices. As such i've played essentially every game BUT WH40.

However, I picked up the previous two-player box (its what I actually learned to paint on), and now find this bundle tempting. I was ready to drop $250 on random CMoN Kickstarter minis which I know i'd never play, so figure... what the hell, lets try this for real. :-p

Only problem is, i've got the LE Codex and Strikeforce sitting in my shopping cart, and it will not finish check-out. It keeps gaking the bed right on the final order confirmation/payment screen.

That strike force is available to discounters - I'd get it that way if I were you. You can get another unit for the difference in cost, IIRC.

 Shadox wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Oh and looks like Crimsons Fists LE is sold out. Damn...

The successor LE seems to be still available for me

Not seeing an add to cart link for the Successor LE. Might be due to the Black Templar players who had their codex rolled into the SM release.

Well, i'm in the US, so as far as I know there are no US discounters online, are there?

Either way, I snagged it, and check-out finally worked once I stopped trying to check-out as a "Guest".

I'm honestly, oddly excited. Somehow this purchase feels much more "right" than throwing the same at CMoN for a game I know I dislike the rules for, and which would amount to a couple hundred minis for just plain painting purposes. Here i'll have a nice little chunk of painting, and turn my previous painting project into a proper playable army. Neat. :-)

Also, Dreadnaughts are my favorite "mini" in this entire hobby, across any game i've ever seen/played... so i'm happy to own another, anytime. :-)