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That is just one attack however. How much is it going to save?

It's 3 attacks, 4 on the charge. You don't use the single attack option, you use the AP2 that the Smash rule gives to all your melee attacks.

Ah I see thank you for explaining that Blacktalos and Pretre. Gunna be completely honest here, I now feel dumber than when I had asked the question. You see, being the Canadian I am, I am bilingual. Did all of my schooling in French, thanks to having a Mother who hails from Quebec. The fact that I never caught onto the translation or your name on my own is honestly... depressing. lol. Anyways thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it.

Also on a side note I got a quick question for you guys. I'm thinking of going forward with my Imperial knight idea of getting the melta version built up and making it all sisters themed. how well does a Knight mesh with the sisters army and at what points level would you introduce it in?

 Green is Best! wrote:
That is just one attack however. How much is it going to save?

As Manvas just said, the "Smash Priest", with Power Maul can choose to Smash or not, resulting in these two options on the charge:

1) Initiative 3: 4 Attacks, S5 AP2.
2) Initiative 1: 1 Attack, S8 AP2.

Because he has Power Maul+Las pistol for +1 and +1 on charge, and Smash doubles your Strength -> S6 +2 for Power maul. (See "multiple modifiers" )
Jacobus can also smash, but i think he'd be better off giving Armour Re-rolls


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 Inevitable_Faith wrote:
Ah I see thank you for explaining that Blacktalos and Pretre. Gunna be completely honest here, I now feel dumber than when I had asked the question. You see, being the Canadian I am, I am bilingual. Did all of my schooling in French, thanks to having a Mother who hails from Quebec. The fact that I never caught onto the translation or your name on my own is honestly... depressing. lol. Anyways thanks for the clarification, I appreciate it.

Also on a side note I got a quick question for you guys. I'm thinking of going forward with my Imperial knight idea of getting the melta version built up and making it all sisters themed. how well does a Knight mesh with the sisters army and at what points level would you introduce it in?

I've had a Melta Knight since they came out to complement my AS force.
PICTURE

Obviously Knights are strong on their own, so it is just adding a DeathStar Unit to an army that cannot have one. It has a similar effect to taking a kitted Inquisitor with Battle conclave and Land Raider: It kills quite a bit, is very resilient, but you need to synergise it.

I can only suggest you field it and test it out with your army. I usually include him at 1500pts but he has seen 1000pts games too...

It refuses flanks with your BSS and Exos on the opposite side of the board. Usually does better at shooting but is rather decent at CC against a few things, mainly enemy Tanks/Superheavies.
Avoid CC MC (Trygon especially) but it eats things like riptides. Haven't had it run at a Wraithlord yet...

I'm really curious how the repentia and pen engines do, every time i've fielded them they have been lack luster.... but I have never fielded more than 1 squad of repentia, and 3 pen engines.

One thing that I did notice about pen engines in the last game I played with them is worth mentioning. You don't necessarily have to charge in with them. 6 heavy flame templates can deal a LOT of damage, and 6d3 on overwatch can really do a number on a charging unit.

The only things that I see that could potentially be problematic with the list is the lack of anything that can touch a flyer, and the vulnerability to small arms fire. Ever think about a void shield generator and/or quad gun? Here's my thinking about it. you want to get close to your opponent fast. If he has the firepower to knock out the shield, then those are shots that don't pop rhinos... if he doesn't, then he'll try to run under the shield, which is that much closer to your crazy assault troops. Besides, its not like you have much that will be blocked by your own shield.

Just my thoughts.

I'm trying to figure out if I can make the trip up to the tourney as well. Its a bit of a drive, but Lewis yelled at me for not making the last couple tourneys up there. We'll see.... My army is all over my painting table right now, so I don't even know what i'd bring yet. Would be cool if we meet up there and I can get a couple pics of a sisters civil war.

 Inevitable_Faith wrote:
Also on a side note I got a quick question for you guys. I'm thinking of going forward with my Imperial knight idea of getting the melta version built up and making it all sisters themed. how well does a Knight mesh with the sisters army and at what points level would you introduce it in?

Played with mine a bit and it works very well - although mine seemed to be either awesome or died horribly - in fact first turn against a Blood Angels force once. Its a good thing to distract enemies with and with Dominion support can be up close to the enemy pretty quick best to be with the enemy so when it explodes it kills more of them !

They can also look really good with the Sisters if themed

 Mr Morden wrote:

They can also look really good with the Sisters if themed

I saw that picture last time, great-looking Knight!

How high is re-basing your Banner-bearer and Hospitaller on your To-Do list?
Please make it N*1 and update the cool picture. My inner OCD will be pleased

I have only had a chance to use Pen Engines once. At the time, I only had 4, so I ran 2 squads of 2. They performed fairly well. While AV11 open topped is fragile, they managed to survive longer than I expected.

It also helps that I had scouting Dominions. They proved to be enough of a distraction to allow the PEs to get up and do some work.

And yes, those flamers can do some work. I am looking forward to putting an Imperial Kan Wall down and seeing how well it does. My expectations are pretty low, but you never know.

I've generally had good luck with running lists of many small, threatening units. I never expected much from 3 plasma acolytes with flak armor and psyker in my last game, but in the absence of enemy fire, they don't kill themselves that fast.

With my every sister squad having melta in it, my opponent who ran 2x large squads of Sang Guard, 2x Vindicators, 2x Scout squads, 1x melta assault squad, Dante, and a Sang Priest had trouble prioritizing targets and he could only remove 2-4 squads/vehicles a turn.

Side note: Trying to get this penitent engine to fit together makes me want to kick a puppy. I want to stab the guy who modeled this in the face with a soldering iron.

With that being said...it is a pretty cool model. Just wish it didn't get the short end of the nerf stick :(

ncshooter426 wrote:
Side note: Trying to get this penitent engine to fit together makes me want to kick a puppy. I want to stab the guy who modeled this in the face with a soldering iron.

With that being said...it is a pretty cool model. Just wish it didn't get the short end of the nerf stick :(

Pinning.

 pretre wrote:

Pinning.

Yep, already did it. This is an older model, it's been tweaked a bit over the years so I had to re-adjust a few things. No biggie, but out of the box, it was a piss poor configuration with that much weight not over center.

After spending years with Heavy Gear models, you become a pro at pinning metal

I did see a cool looking conversion here somewhere, looks like they took the center section of the engine (with the female strapped to the conduits) and combined it with a "naked" GK walker. Toss on the ork buzz saws and whatnot, viola...modern engine.

I used the extra penitent 'drivers' to up-armor my immolators for when I count them as Repressors. Strap them to the front to explain that AV13.

Thank you for the advice Pretre and BlackTalos, Those are two very good looking knights by the way. I also took a sneak at your army pics in gallery and they look fantastic.

Currently I'm working on my two immos that transport my sister squads with flamers, just wrapped those up a couple days ago. Afterwards is my HB ret squad and canoness. From there I need to get my hands on a few exorcists and find some seraphim I think. I have the beginnings of a dom squad but I'll need another immo for them. Completely in love with the tops of the immos btw, the beefier less boxy rhino chassis looks amazing with those top pieces, even without the turrets.

Wish It was more affordable for me to buy the FW repressor and Avenger strike fighter though.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

They can also look really good with the Sisters if themed

I saw that picture last time, great-looking Knight!

How high is re-basing your Banner-bearer and Hospitaller on your To-Do list?
Please make it N*1 and update the cool picture. My inner OCD will be pleased

My large Sisters army is a mixture of ebay and commision work - the majority of the Sisters are ebay the knight was commissioned form this very nice lady

https://www.facebook.com/ckcommissions?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

Yeah I should look at getting the models sorted _ Good call

I need a source for cheap drop pods. I am hoping to make a cheap conversion that looks similar to Union Dropships from Battletech.

I want to try out the Rent a Drop Pod list

I figure the Flesh Tearers feel about...you know...Armageddon so they are giving us a good deal on their drop pods.

Though for the day: Only the penitent can come before the Emperor's holy light and receive absolution.

Besides it's not the first Space Marine chapter we have purged...

If you're just trying it, use solo cups.

I am hoping to make a cheap conversion that looks similar to Union Dropships from Battletech.

See now I want one - 28mmm Scale Union Dropship =- damn that would be fine

I know I can use proxies but I am a hobbyist first and foremost and I am excited at modelling something new

If GW didn't charge an arm and a leg I would buy them from them and convert the actual pods themselves but c'est la vie.

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I know I can use proxies but I am a hobbyist first and foremost and I am excited at modelling something new

If GW didn't charge an arm and a leg I would buy them from them and convert the actual pods themselves but c'est la vie.

Just keep an eye on the swap shop. Other than that, there aren't a lot of great ones that I have seen. You could also do papercraft or scratchbuild something.

I was thinking about the solo cups and I thought it would be funny to use them and write on the sides in marker "I'm a drop pod" and then draw a happy face

I do like to troll the swap shop but with shipping costs being so high to Canada and the fact our exchange rate got nuked recently it is usually better to try and buy local off things like cragislist or shops that sell used models.

But I really do loves me some Battletech so that is really appealing. I just need to figure it out. But fear not for the Emperor blesses his most faithful servants

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
I need a source for cheap drop pods. I am hoping to make a cheap conversion that looks similar to Union Dropships from Battletech.

I want to try out the Rent a Drop Pod list

I figure the Flesh Tearers feel about...you know...Armageddon so they are giving us a good deal on their drop pods.

Though for the day: Only the penitent can come before the Emperor's holy light and receive absolution.

Besides it's not the first Space Marine chapter we have purged...

I really want to do this someday:
http://www.crimsonorc.com/makeshift-drop-pods-warhammer-40k/

I saw the guy in my local group and that Pod looked amazing on the table. Real piece of Art (for what it actually is). Could not tell the difference when walking past the table, only a side-view at one point i was like "Wait, this looks weird..." and noticed what the thing actually is...

(The pictures do not do it any favours either)

Well, I have my list finalized (I hope) and I am ready for this weekend. I just need to spend the next few evenings finishing up my repentia and touching up a few girls that were never finished last time.

As stated above, this will be Uriah and a priest, 3 squads of repentia, 3 squadrons on Penitent Engines, 4 squads in immolators (2 BSS and 2 Dominion).

While I doubt I will be seeing anything close to the top table, I would like to win at least one game with this list. I will try to take some pics and post them up next week, as I have seen comments on the past about seeing this formation on a game table. I mean, sisters on the table top are rare enough. I've only seen them once (outside of my own) and I had to drive to Philly to see them (Don Mondo's list). And I have never seen anyone brave (dumb?) enough to field this list.

If anyone has input on how to run this list, I am all ears.

I think you'll do better with the list than you think. Sisters are a surprise enough, but running a Repentia/pengine list will definitely be something people have never seen before. It's an unknown quantity and people will make mistakes that you can hopefully capitalize on. Good luck on Saturday!

Yeah, i hope you face an army with Grav-Centurions spam.

Run your Repentia at them and laugh when they shoot you and go "oh bugger" lol

 BlackTalos wrote:
Yeah, i hope you face an army with Grav-Centurions spam.

Run your Repentia at them and laugh when they shoot you and go "oh bugger" lol

That would be epic. I will keep my fingers crossed for that matchup.

Opponent "Ok I'm shooting your weird chainsword unit with my grav cannons. What armour do they have?"

Sob player "None!"

Opponent:

Thought for the day: Let faith be your armour for the Emperor protects the faithful!

He'd still wound on a 6, which means about half your unit would die, then there's the other weapon on the centurions. They are not so easily denied unfortunately.

Mavnas wrote:
He'd still wound on a 6, which means about half your unit would die, then there's the other weapon on the centurions. They are not so easily denied unfortunately.

But you forget that whatever they have, I have my faith in the Emperor.
None can prevail against my Imperial might.....

....well, nothing except wave serpents, riptides, centurions, and .....

It's ok the Imperium is built on the blood of the martyrs !