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Ah, thanks for that Kan!

So they're about $5 cheaper than the previous dual-kit releases. I don't know if that indicates their lack of faith in the Wood Elf release or perhaps they feel they need to readjust their pricing, which would be good news.

Wildwood Rangers sounds like a Wild West gang of vagabonds and cut-throats.

Any leaks on the contents of the guardians of the deep wood box?

From Alojolo on Warseer:

Sisters of the Thorn are mounted on Stags and are similar to Doomfire Warlocks for they are sorceresses themselves. There you go.
Eternal Guard wield spears and shields.
Wildwood rangers are definitely the ones carrying the weapon that resembles a bardiche.
And there's going to be a big box containing 3 Treemen plus 36 Dryads.

Wolfen from La Taberna de Laurana wrote:- Sisters of the Thorn / Wild Riders: Plastic Box, dual kit, 5 miniatures. 29 euro. The Sisters are the Stag Riders, and the Wild Riders are Orion´s personal Guard, with long spears.
- Eternal Guard / Wildwood Rangers: Plastic box, dual infantry kit, 10 miniatures. 31 Euro. Has a Command Set: Champion, Musician and Standard Bearer
- Guardians of The Deepwood: Army Box, 3 Treemen and 36 Dryads. 190 euro. Treemen can be armed as Ancient and even one Durthu. Only until stocks last.

anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:from the next White Dwarf:
Wood Elves Eternal Guard/Wildwood Rangers $39
Wood Elves Sisters of the Thorn / Wild Riders: $44
Wood Elves Guardians of the Deepwood $230
The Sisters of the thorn come with a Blackbriar Javelin that is armour piercing with poisoned attacks with a range of 12". The unit also is considered to be a level 2 wizard with shield of thorns and curse of anraheir. With a 4+ ward save and always strikes first, these units are looking tough.
Wildwood Rangers also get always strikes first and immune to psychology, and come with a Great Weapon and light armour. Also a Guardians of Wildwood special rule for +1 attack.

So it looks like we'll have

Eagles,
Waywatchers,
Warhawk riders
Wardanceers
and Treekin left in metal / finecast right?

 avedominusnox wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 avedominusnox wrote:
Do we know what is the base the treeman is mounted? Is it the chariot one?

Definitely not a Chariot base, if that were a chariot base then the model would be huge, 8 or 9" tall. Looks like a new base size to me, maybe 75mm x 50 mm, judging by the Dryad which they've included on one of the pics.

Isn't 75mm x 50mm the old giant base?

Yeah possibly. I have a giant but I can't be bothered pulling it out of it's case right now, lol.

It's definitely not 100x50 like a chariot base, not unless they're lying about it only being 6" tall. You can see it's over 2 base widths tall, so if it's a 100x50mm base, that would make it over 8" tall. I'm thinking in the 70 to 80mm wide region.

Well in the pic with the dryad it seems to me appropriate for the 100x50. Can someone with a knowledge of that inform us, it is important for me to know. Thank you

Dryad is only on a 25mm base, so if the Dryad is to scale, there's no way the Treeman is on a 100mm wide base, as it's not 4 times wider than the Dryad's base.

If the Dryad is to scale, the Treeman is only 4.7" high to the top of it's head, and the branches sticking out of his head is about another 1.5".


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gilljoy wrote:
So it looks like we'll have

Eagles,
Waywatchers,
Warhawk riders
Wardanceers
and Treekin left in metal / finecast right?

That's a bit sad. Eagles I don't really care because the LOTR Eagles look a million times better anyway. Waywatchers I don't really care because they look pretty good.

Warhawk riders and Treekin could really have used an update, especially the Treekin given the Dryad and Treeman now both have the same aesthetic, the Treekin are not only going to look ugly as all hell (like they always have) they are also going to look out of place.

What's interesting is that WE are not even getting a new BIG thing. Most of the other armies got a new "big" model (or oft two in one). I suspect being left alone for ages has its downsides in that only so much can be updated at once.

I do think that new treekin and warhawk riders would have been great to see.

On the nright side its not that much smaller than a Kinght and is what £35 versus £85.

I think it would make a geat Exodie Avatar

 Mr Morden wrote:
On the nright side its not that much smaller than a Kinght and is what £35 versus £85.

I think it would make a geat Exodie Avatar

It's heaps smaller than a Knight. A Knight is a bit over 6" to the top of its hunch, this is only 4.7 to the top of its head, then the Knight is massively bulky. I'd feel comfortable in saying the Knight is probably at least twice the volume of the Treeman.

Depending on cost, sisters of the thorn should be a real pain to deal with depending on a couple of factors: movement distance and whether they have fast cavalry. This is assuming they still keep the cavalry bases on the wild riders. Shield or thorns isn't really that fantastic, it's just a generic set of hits which may be good if you can keep this unit alive in the flank or rear of an enemy unit. If they are S3/T3 as I would imagine, even with a 4+ ward, weight of attacks means they won't last long in combat. The gold of this unit should be the Curse of Anraheir. -1 to Hit is the kicker here, with the Dangerous Terrain tests being just an added bonus. The issue is that even as a level 2 wizard, the spell requires a 7+ or 8+ to cast regularly, depending if the Lore Attribute applies. That means 3 dice to get the spell off reliably.

Run this unit behind the rest of your force to provide them cover whilst you get them into range of your enemy, hexing them with that -1 to hit which should swing combat if favour of the WE. They also seems like a good way to deal with redirectors. However that said this will probably be an expensive unit to run.

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204008_WildwoodRangers01.jpg

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204008_WildwoodRangers02.jpg

With a good paintjob, the rangers are epic.

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204008_EternalGuard01.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/resour...nalGuard02.jpg

eternal guard are rather cool

http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204009_WildRiders01.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204009_WildRiders02.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204009_SistersoftheThorn01.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120204009_SistersoftheThorn02.jpg

stags are pretty bad imo

Where'd you get those links from? I can't find them on the GW site.

Those ones are awesomely painted though... almost makes me want to repaint my WE in an autumn theme.

The eternal guard and stag links aren't working.

some guy on warseer posted them.

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The Wild Riders and Sisters of Thorn look hideous.

the riders for both units are really cool imo, but stags riders is such a poor concept, that it's impossible to make them look good. Swapping the stags for some horses would fix them.

 streetsamurai wrote:
the riders for both units are really cool imo, but stags riders is such a poor concept, that it's impossible to make them look good.

Why is this the case, in your mind?

They haven't done themselves any favours with the paint schemes. The white and blue just looks strange and the brown stags are painted terribly, whoever painted them needs to have their artistic license revoked, the shading and highlighting has been painted as though they're panel lines on a tank.

Damn, I dig everything in that second week release. Seriously tempted to start a WE army to be the other side of the coin to my Beastmen.

Or, using the Eternal Guard as High Elf Spearmen and using them as the base of a HE army.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
They haven't done themselves any favours with the paint schemes. The white and blue just looks strange and the brown stags are painted terribly, whoever painted them needs to have their artistic license revoked, the shading and highlighting has been painted as though they're panel lines on a tank.

Agreed.

I actually think the Wild Riders (sisters less so) are a decent paint job away from awesome. It's difficult to say if the kit is poor, or the poantjob hideously clumsy, but there looks to be real potential here, much like the Treeman.

Wow! I really like these upcoming releases.

WIth 40k going down the crap-shoot with the release of a whole new rulebook, and me still enjoying GW model quality, I might have to move into this WE release with both hands open!

Wild Riders: look kinda cool, the stags need a far less dramatic/tattoo-filled paint scheme though. Helmets looks alright, but honestly I'd rather they be swapped out for the Wildwood Ranger heads (hooded).

The Eternal Guard looks fine, even if they are mostly a HE elite copy-paste with slightly higher skirts. The Wildwood Rangers on the other hand...their torsos look so very, very distorted. Their shoulders are obscenely wide and make their frame look ridiculous. The Wildwood Rangers are pretty much just lumberjacks, that's the only way I could think to explain their impossibly huge frame which is comparable to Marauders and even Chaos Warriors.

The Sisters of the Thorn...are pretty much unforgivable. They are blatant HE cavalry copy-paste down to the paint scheme they've used. They're maiden guard on stags, no joking here, this is a serious issue.

Hmmm....

I love the models. Seriously tempted to start a Wood Elf army. Especially since my Dwarves are on hold until Avatars of War finishes their line so I can build it using them

Why wouldn't they have visual connections to High Elves, as they were High Elves back in the day?

Also, what browser are you guys using that make these paint jobs look gakky?

 plastictrees wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
the riders for both units are really cool imo, but stags riders is such a poor concept, that it's impossible to make them look good.

Why is this the case, in your mind?

Hard to say, probably that deer are such unthreatening animals, that it's hard to make them look badass

It's already been mentioned but I'm really impressed with the way in which the models (whilst look absolutely gorgeous!) also feature silhouettes that resemble both High and Dark Elf imagery. Very clever. Very cool!

Wood Elves are the nicest tabletop army GW put out now imo, really eye catching stuff.

Just need to find a way of fitting some of it into my HE army!

 plastictrees wrote:
Why wouldn't they have visual connections to High Elves, as they were High Elves back in the day?

Also, what browser are you guys using that make these paint jobs look gakky?

The quality of the paint scheme on the models is not in question. What is in question is the choice of colours and design in general. We have white with blue, teal and cyan mounts and riders, broken up only by small amounts of silver which blend into itself and there's a distinct choice that the best way to break up this confused mess of a colour scheme is with bone, light gold and fleeting amounts of brown. It's just a copy-paste of a HE scheme with just a few more green-tones in there. The way to make your army stand out is not to emulate another (armies should not be convergent). It isn't like WoC, DoC where the fluff ties both so closely together it's impossible to separate one from the other. The Sisters of Slaughter had the exact same issue with their preview colour scheme (silver/gold-grey/purple with no other colours to break up the scheme).

The Wild Riders are excusable (and in most ways favourable) because they take the time to give them a good variety of blending and contrasting colours (green to crimson) which brings out the rich woodland colours. I don't know what they were thinking when they were painting the Sisters of the Thorn. There is a distinct lack of both subtlety (blending with surroundings) and contrast (making anything specific on the models pop).

The only real reason I can see that they chose it is because they wanted to show off the models in different seasonal colour schemes. Wildwood Rangers in autumn hues, Sisters of the Thorn in winter tones, Wild Riders in summer colours and finally Eternal Guard in new spring greens.

Wow! I don't play fantasy but those are awesome.

Wow! I haven't played WHFB in probably 5+ years, and for the first time in a VERY long time I'm thinking about shelling out for GW's redicolous prices! This is pretty much exactly the direction i wanted Wood Elves to go, ramp up the magical feral aspect

I absolutely LOVE the stag riders! Especially the sisters, who have this fantastic ethereal magicy/wind blowey thing going on that ties in well with the Ariel artwork. Stags are a bit on the dynamic side, but I think the concept and execution is awesome, it's just the warpaint on the faces that makes it look a bit off. Male stag riders have this great savage/feral look to them that just works for me.

Rangers are a bit meh, but I'm REALLY digging the Eternal Guard! I liked the old ones, and these are even better!

The new Treeman is awesome, the new plastic kits are awesome, I always like the last set of plastics they released! Damn these are exciting figs!

I just wish they'd done the wardancers in plastic too, the current ones are just a bit too awkwardly posed.

 Ehsteve wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Why wouldn't they have visual connections to High Elves, as they were High Elves back in the day?

Also, what browser are you guys using that make these paint jobs look gakky?

The quality of the paint scheme on the models is not in question. What is in question is the choice of colours and design in general. We have white with blue, teal and cyan mounts and riders, broken up only by small amounts of silver which blend into itself and there's a distinct choice that the best way to break up this confused mess of a colour scheme is with bone, light gold and fleeting amounts of brown. It's just a copy-paste of a HE scheme with just a few more green-tones in there. The way to make your army stand out is not to emulate another (armies should not be convergent). It isn't like WoC, DoC where the fluff ties both so closely together it's impossible to separate one from the other. The Sisters of Slaughter had the exact same issue with their preview colour scheme (silver/gold-grey/purple with no other colours to break up the scheme).

The Wild Riders are excusable (and in most ways favourable) because they take the time to give them a good variety of blending and contrasting colours (green to crimson) which brings out the rich woodland colours. I don't know what they were thinking when they were painting the Sisters of the Thorn. There is a distinct lack of both subtlety (blending with surroundings) and contrast (making anything specific on the models pop).

The only real reason I can see that they chose it is because they wanted to show off the models in different seasonal colour schemes. Wildwood Rangers in autumn hues, Sisters of the Thorn in winter tones, Wild Riders in summer colours and finally Eternal Guard in new spring greens.

The Wild Rider stags are terribly painted. From a brushwork standpoint they aren't terrible, but they're just painted wrong for a furry animal, they have sharp edge highlights and sharp shadows, they make the models look like something you'd get in a child's play set. The completely lack any quality artistic direction and it makes the models look clumsy.

The rest of them I don't think are painted terrible, but the Sisters of Thorn scheme really isn't good for showing off the models.

Over all, I'm liking the new models... I just need to figure out what to do for Glade Guard because I really don't like the GW Glade Guard models. I still think the treeman doesn't look great though.

I like the stags, but I do see the problem.

Is it the paint job that makes them look so angular or is it
the sculpt? The tissue on the legs and face look like a more
angular version of those Minotaur sculpts.