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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/us/politics/rancher-proudly-breaks-the-law-becoming-a-hero-in-the-west.html

Here's my favorite part:

"He said he would continue holding a daily news conference; on Saturday, it drew one reporter and one photographer, so Mr. Bundy used the time to officiate at what was in effect a town meeting with supporters, discussing, in a long, loping discourse, the prevalence of abortion, the abuses of welfare and his views on race.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”"

Truly an American patriot.

Awesome.

Any of the Bundy defenders want to catch this hand grenade? What about this gentleman and his followers is worthwhile again? Come on, guys! Let's see you spin this gak!

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:


Awesome.

Any of the Bundy defenders want to catch this hand grenade? What about this gentleman and his followers is worthwhile again? Come on, guys! Let's see you spin this gak!

So we find out that not only he's breaking current laws, but he's an donkey-cave?

Is that what you wanna hear??

If you follow the main Bundy thread there is a certain group who seems to be fine with not only this man's actions (past and present), but also seem to hold him up as a sort of hero sticking it to the evil Feds. Well, we just got some more insight into this "folk hero" so, I want to see those same champions of Bundy explain how this guy deserves the accolades he is getting from certain elements of our population. Because this just seems to confirm the larger theory that Bundy and his followers are dangerous lunatics who need to be dealt with.

So I want to hear the justification for why this guy isn't a huge pile of gak.

If your meaning me
I could care less I just want to see how far this guy can go with his stance I know damn well he is going to get hammered

I do get pissed when the government screws up but that's more on my professionalism side. Its like the LEO stepped up the Hooah-ness being they didn't have something like OEF and/or OIF for them.

But if we're going to make the Bundy the brand of Tea Party or something negative about the Republicans lets not For the Militia's that backed him are "Seperatist" (sp)

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
If you follow the main Bundy thread there is a certain group who seems to be fine with not only this man's actions (past and present), but also seem to hold him up as a sort of hero sticking it to the evil Feds. Well, we just got some more insight into this "folk hero" so, I want to see those same champions of Bundy explain how this guy deserves the accolades he is getting from certain elements of our population. Because this just seems to confirm the larger theory that Bundy and his followers are dangerous lunatics who need to be dealt with.

So I want to hear the justification for why this guy isn't a huge pile of gak.

So... What then??!

I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

Just as I respect the OWS Crew for doing their spiel....

If nothing else, it sparks debates....

Sure.

I wonder how those "separatists" have voted in the past. I bet it wasn't for anything "blue" if you know what I mean.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
If you follow the main Bundy thread there is a certain group who seems to be fine with not only this man's actions (past and present), but also seem to hold him up as a sort of hero sticking it to the evil Feds. Well, we just got some more insight into this "folk hero" so, I want to see those same champions of Bundy explain how this guy deserves the accolades he is getting from certain elements of our population. Because this just seems to confirm the larger theory that Bundy and his followers are dangerous lunatics who need to be dealt with.

So I want to hear the justification for why this guy isn't a huge pile of gak.

Why do you want to hear justification for something that there is no reason to justify? Just because some people might have supported him before for something unrelated to this, doesn't mean they should support him being a racist.

If someone does something you agree or disagree with, that doesn't mean that you have to agree/disagree with everything that person does. If that person later turns out to be either a horrible person or a saint, that doesn't mean that you were necessarily wrong for agreeing or disagreeing with whatever you did before due to limited information, as long as you acknowledge the new information.

I was somewhat torn on the Bundy case before, but if this story is true, then he's turned out to be an idiot. Sorry if that isn't the justification you want to hear.

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

 whembly wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
If you follow the main Bundy thread there is a certain group who seems to be fine with not only this man's actions (past and present), but also seem to hold him up as a sort of hero sticking it to the evil Feds. Well, we just got some more insight into this "folk hero" so, I want to see those same champions of Bundy explain how this guy deserves the accolades he is getting from certain elements of our population. Because this just seems to confirm the larger theory that Bundy and his followers are dangerous lunatics who need to be dealt with.

So I want to hear the justification for why this guy isn't a huge pile of gak.

So... What then??!

I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

Just as I respect the OWS Crew for doing their spiel....

If nothing sparks, it sparks debates....

I think you could find better champions to "respect" but I will agree that respecting Bundy is weird.

Now if Harry Ried shuts the Hell up and stop calling it a Domestic Terrorist Group" or someone on here calling it a "Armed Insurrection" then his time in the "sun" will fade away. Fed's put a Lien on his house. He dies. House and property becomes the property of the government minus the time of the Legal Battles of the Family to get it back and six month we forget about it.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:


Awesome.

Any of the Bundy defenders want to catch this hand grenade? What about this gentleman and his followers is worthwhile again? Come on, guys! Let's see you spin this gak!

who was defending him?

my only comment on the subject has been

"hey bundy, the natives were first in line with that argument. wait your turn."

The Native Americans have us right where they want us....Casino's, no Federal taxes or state taxes cigs, alcohol, what not....

 Ahtman wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

Not necessarily. Bundy hasn't killed anybody.

I am not surprised to hear when one of the leaders of 'county supremacy' movements is an unabashed bigot or a rich land developer using ignorant pawns to attempt to wrestle land away from the Feds into the hands of private owners in order to steal the land from them.

The slogan of the town Bundy did his town hall meetings at.

"We are dedicated to maintaining our rural lifestyle and rural quality of life in our valley"

If I saw that on a town sign, I would keep on driving as that screams bigots and racism.

The question is: Which rich developer has a vested interest in this Bundy situation. We know why the hate groups and white supremacists were mobilized to support him.

Nevada is a scary place in regards to the neo-Nazi movement.

 Ahtman wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

Why do think he had him as his avatar for a month.

"We are dedicated to maintaining our rural lifestyle and rural quality of life in our valley"

If I saw that on a town sign, I would keep on driving as that screams bigots and racism.

The question is: Which rich developer has a vested interest in this Bundy situation. We know why the hate groups and white supremacists were mobilized to support him.

Nevada is a scary place in regards to the neo-Nazi movement.

There's two towns near Ft Bragg NC that's like that.

One in GA we drove through on way to JOTC.

One up around a National Guard MPRC in Kentucky

Basically I could care less. I know where they are and they can stay there

 Ahtman wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

Did bundy kill anyone???


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 Hordini wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

Not necessarily. Bundy hasn't killed anybody.

 Hordini wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
If you follow the main Bundy thread there is a certain group who seems to be fine with not only this man's actions (past and present), but also seem to hold him up as a sort of hero sticking it to the evil Feds. Well, we just got some more insight into this "folk hero" so, I want to see those same champions of Bundy explain how this guy deserves the accolades he is getting from certain elements of our population. Because this just seems to confirm the larger theory that Bundy and his followers are dangerous lunatics who need to be dealt with.

So I want to hear the justification for why this guy isn't a huge pile of gak.

Why do you want to hear justification for something that there is no reason to justify? Just because some people might have supported him before for something unrelated to this, doesn't mean they should support him being a racist.

If someone does something you agree or disagree with, that doesn't mean that you have to agree/disagree with everything that person does. If that person later turns out to be either a horrible person or a saint, that doesn't mean that you were necessarily wrong for agreeing or disagreeing with whatever you did before due to limited information, as long as you acknowledge the new information.

I was somewhat torn on the Bundy case before, but if this story is true, then he's turned out to be an idiot. Sorry if that isn't the justification you want to hear.

The support for Bundy defied reason, and yet there was no shortage of supporters both on here and throughout the country who championed this lunatic. This article highlights what a lot of the non-Bundy supporters saw from the start--a backwards lunatic with a grudge flaunting laws with other lunatics and backing up their insanity with firearms. Now you get an extra sprinkle of bona fide old, old, old-school racism added to the Bundy gak pie which makes this development so delicious I feel like I should be using the Raging Heroes .gif in this post.

I was waiting for this kind of hate speech development. It usually goes hand-in-hand with the fringe who talk about states rights, seceding, and mention Waco and Ruby Ridge as rallying cries

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I have a weird respect for bundy simply because he's trying to stand up to the Feds...

So now you also admire Che Guevara then, of course.

Why do think he had him as his avatar for a month.

'Cuz I lost a bet to sebster.

Yeah, I know I'm just being silly.

 Jihadin wrote:

"We are dedicated to maintaining our rural lifestyle and rural quality of life in our valley"

If I saw that on a town sign, I would keep on driving as that screams bigots and racism.

The question is: Which rich developer has a vested interest in this Bundy situation. We know why the hate groups and white supremacists were mobilized to support him.

Nevada is a scary place in regards to the neo-Nazi movement.

There's two towns near Ft Bragg NC that's like that.

One in GA we drove through on way to JOTC.

One up around a National Guard MPRC in Kentucky

Basically I could care less. I know where they are and they can stay there

We have those near me too... And they have a nice little restaurant called 'Klassic Kountry Kitchen' which the local army base has to tell all soldiers 'not to go to' due to the known 'ties' to certain organizations in the area and risk of violence.

The codes are not hard to break in many of these areas because they are not worried about hiding true agendas. That is why I always suspect the 'county supremacy' movement's agendas.

Hey Nkelsch, remember when you you said he was a racist and got laughed at?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Truely, Bundy stands for all that is right in the world. Shame on BLM for enforcing the laws of the United States of America against a man who clearly knows better than them.

Well, obviously he was misquoted and he never said anything like that; it's all a lie from the liberal media.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:


Awesome.

Any of the Bundy defenders want to catch this hand grenade? What about this gentleman and his followers is worthwhile again? Come on, guys! Let's see you spin this gak!

I cannot wait for the day that someone can speak or act in such a way in which that one action performed by said person is judged upon its on merits, and not by other actions.

That said, I am strongly indifferent about this individual and his cause on any level. Attacking someone's character to also attack his actions is just lazy though.

His character comes into play when he is described as a hero.

It's a moot point, anyway. The moderation team locked the old thread for a reason and I imagine this one will be locked shortly as well.

What a dumbass.

Edit: Not Ouze. I meant Bundy.

 Ouze wrote:
His character comes into play when he is described as a hero.

It's a moot point, anyway. The moderation team locked the old thread for a reason and I imagine this one will be locked shortly as well.

I get that, but if you give me six lines written by the most honest man, yadda yadda.

 kronk wrote:
What a dumbass.

Edit: Not Ouze. I meant Bundy.

We knew what you mean dude.