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So someone posted this link http://www.kingpledger.com/be535af327595b57633db3f75faedc79?share=2f6ea696f3e383b8b6d758ff87578ab6 which is an unofficial pledge manager just to help figure your total costs. Right now we are looking at $492 for one of everything with a king bundle, that's before shipping. If you get a king bundle and one of each of the kickstarter exclusive items it's $192 plus shipping. I think I'm going for just the king and exclusives, while the e pensions seem like they will be GREAT, I see them as adding more shipping costs and they are only $5 less than retail price.

Thanks for that link!

I think it is "KING + EXCLUSIVES" for me too - IF I jump on board!

New update! Shipping


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#75
Important shipping update (yes, no fancy/witty title this time)
Posted by Monolith Board Games LLC
First of all, sorry it’s taken us a while to get back to you guys with this, we had an awful lot of info that we needed to pull together before making a final estimation as well as getting a clear idea of just how far this Kickstarter could go in order for that estimation to be accurate.
This is the current situation: When we started this project, we stated that we could deliver the game in October, it was ambitious but we stood by it because we wanted to get your rewards to you asap and we believed it was feasible. The project has now grown immensely and it will come as a surprise to noone that we had to reconsider our delivery expectations. We approached this with the same realistic yet positive attitude that we had when we decided on our first delivery date.
The most important thing is: We still expect to ship your rewards to you for October! I know this statement will raise quite a few eyebrows and many question will be asked about just what state of mind we were in when we decided this, but it remains fact as the project has been a huge success and we have our work cut out for us in the months to come, but it is still doable! We will of course be updating you guys regularly on the game’s progress and if there are any delays, you will all be the first ones to know, but if all goes well, you should have all your Conan stuff by the end of October!
Now, concerning shipping fees: With the HUGE increase in content thanks to all the unlocked stretch goals, the price has of course increased. However, we have done our best with our partners in order to retain a respectable price.
The estimations below are the average cost (depending on the exact country/location) for a King pledge with all the stretch goals so far and no add-ons. These will be dispatched from either of our two logistical centers in mainland France and the United States.
Western Europe: $35
Eastern Europe : $35
North America : $45
South America : $80
New Zealand : $90
Australia : $80
South Africa : $100
Japan : $55
China : $80
Taiwan : $60
We are currently missing the estimation for Canada and seeing if we cannot circumvent the import taxes for you guys. We will let you know as soon as we have any answers.
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 JohnHwangDD wrote:
My biggest issue is that it's a total sausage fest. More girls, please.
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BTW, with 2.04M raised and 3d:10h to go, I'm thinking we're going a final number around $3M.

It's CONAN, remember?

$45 for US shipping seems really high considering they have a US Asmodee distribution center. I can ship a 20 pound package almost anywhere in the US for less than $30 with 3 day delivery.

Might have to drop the king pledge to make it more affordable. Definitely not buying any add ons.

One way to think of it is this:

Take the initial shipping estimate for the game. Deduct it from the revised shipping costs. The remainder is what you're paying for all those stretch goals. Still a good deal, right? I'd certainly be happy paying $30 (US example) for all that content.

Besides, they said these estimates are on the higher end so people aren't surprised with higher costs if they happened. They could have done what others have done before and just slapped you with huge charges after they took your pledge money. At least they're being upfront about it now rather than later.

I think you have to ask yourself how much you'll play with the extra content as well though. If this is going to be your "go to" game for a while, it may be worth it, so $180 for a King Pledge (with shipping).

OTOH, figure the base game will be $65-ish from MM or Cool Stuff Inc (and with a few other bits and bobs, free shipping), so are the extras worth the extra $115 or so? I think I might just drop to the Barbarian pledge.

I am glad they released the rules and PnP, because I really like this game. I just have too many mounds of content from other KS that are in the closet at this point to be excited over nearly $200 for the sweet spot.

Shipping looks ok to me.................but I am already on Barbarian plus addons rather than King.

Shipping within the USA for $45?

Seems high, but then again they should know approximately how large a box it will need, and how heavy it will be, I guess?

Just got out of church, scone shipping update


Kickstarter
#76
Important Shipping update #2
Posted by Monolith Board Games LLC
It is important that everyone realizes that we are trying to get the BEST rate with the SAFEST system. Nobody wants their merchandise getting lost in the winds. Rest assured we WILL REVALUATE the cost once we have a precise weight for the package. As it stands, the figures that we have given you are a rough estimation and an over-estimation at that! We will evaluate all the possible alternatives to mitigate the price once we have all the details, this is our first Kickstarter so we don’t have a lot of data to go on.
I know it is not an easy pill for you all to swallow, but we are here, as a company, to have a long term relation with you, the public, not fool you around to earn a quick buck not try to pull the wool over your eyes!
Did we think there would be a negative reaction to this announcement? Yes. Why did we do it then? Because I started this campaign telling you all that Monolith was an honest and transparent company, and I’ll be damned if I don’t finish it that way. The more astute, business like procedure would be to of informed you of this after we had taken your pledge money but that’s not how Monolith works.
As previously stated, we purposefully overestimated the weight of the package so as not to make matters worse. If you wish to calculate this for yourselves then this is how we did it: We used FedEx, fully tracked with a weight of 8kg.
This does not mean that we will use FedEx for certain, we are running with the ball as best we can during this campaign but we currently don’t have the time to do real, in depth shipping studies like we will once it ends. Truth be told most EU parcels will possibly use Colissimo, which is cheaper and the US especially will be cheaper.
Therefore, you can expect your shipping to be lower than the figures given.
Also, and I hate to mention this; and it will really disappoint me when it happens but it’s only a matter of time before someone spews this out: Monolith IS NOT intending to make any money off of shipping. We will be charging you what it costs us. Nothing more, nothing less.
I want to thank all of you again for the trust that you have placed in us and I want to assure you that we are committed to providing you with the best game possible at the fairest cost possible.
Jamie & the Monolith team.
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It's good to estimate high rather than low ball and then have to come back after the fact and charge more. And first class shipping is something I can appreciate. I got free shipping with Cthulhu Wars kickstarter and they used the cheapest shipping possible. Lots of people have damaged parts and my game got lost by the USPS. Even though I was on the first shipment, still don't have my game and no time table on when I might get it. 30 days and counting since it was shipped out. They offered to ship another copy and gave me a tracking number saying it left their hands on the 26th, and it looks like it is lost too. No tracking updates at all on it in the last 10 days. Might as well add the estimated shipping amount to your pledge now so that it counts towards stretch goals rather than add it after the campaign when it won't.

45 for within the US does seem really high for an estimate. Fair enough though.

There's a lot of stuff that's going to be stuffed in that box, and we aren't even done with the campaign yet.

They are also claiming that even with all the additional content, October is still a possibility for delivery. I'm skeptical, but if they pull it off that's awesome.

 Theophony wrote:
So someone posted this link http://www.kingpledger.com/be535af327595b57633db3f75faedc79?share=2f6ea696f3e383b8b6d758ff87578ab6 which is an unofficial pledge manager just to help figure your total costs. Right now we are looking at $492 for one of everything with a king bundle, that's before shipping. If you get a king bundle and one of each of the kickstarter exclusive items it's $192 plus shipping. I think I'm going for just the king and exclusives, while the e pensions seem like they will be GREAT, I see them as adding more shipping costs and they are only $5 less than retail price.

Hi,
I'm the creator of this unofficial pledge manager.
I hope you'll like it and if you have suggestions, remarks or if you see issues, don't hesitate to let me know here, by PM or via facebook (https://www.facebook.com/KingPledger)

I also updated the shipping estimations following the last updates of Monolith.

Have fun!
http://www.kingpledger.com

jerome_lam wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
So someone posted this link http://www.kingpledger.com/be535af327595b57633db3f75faedc79?share=2f6ea696f3e383b8b6d758ff87578ab6 which is an unofficial pledge manager just to help figure your total costs. Right now we are looking at $492 for one of everything with a king bundle, that's before shipping. If you get a king bundle and one of each of the kickstarter exclusive items it's $192 plus shipping. I think I'm going for just the king and exclusives, while the e pensions seem like they will be GREAT, I see them as adding more shipping costs and they are only $5 less than retail price.

Hi,
I'm the creator of this unofficial pledge manager.
I hope you'll like it and if you have suggestions, remarks or if you see issues, don't hesitate to let me know here, by PM or via facebook (https://www.facebook.com/KingPledger)

I also updated the shipping estimations following the last updates of Monolith.

Have fun!
http://www.kingpledger.com

Thanks , I saw it posted a while back too in the comments section, but was on my phone at the time. Very helpful.


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Broke 2.1million. Ain't that a punch in the face

Kickstarter
#77
$2,100,000 – Kothian Archer UNLOCKED! Next up : Comic relief
Posted by Monolith Board Games LLC
We have steamed past the 2 million mark with all the velocity and recklessness of a train driven by a particularly drunk Cimmerian!

Speaking of drunken Cimmerians however, I think it’s time for a slightly more light hearted stretch goal.
Demons, monsters and heroes are all very well and good, but you need to go back to your roots once in a while… and punch a camel.

Now the camel… is a classic, I’m sure most of you will get the reference, if you don’t, then there is a VERY IMPORTANT film that you need to watch before the end of this campaign!
This simple beast of burden will be at the time scenery, ally, scenario objective, walking chest… We have quite a few ideas for this one which should make some of games a bit less intense than others
WORK IN PROGRESS
WORK IN PROGRESS
« A few days' ride on camelback to the southwest, as Shevatas knew, would bring the traveller within sight of the great river Styx at the point where it turned at right angles with its former course, and flowed westward to empty at last into the distant sea. At the point of its bend began the land of Stygia, the dark-bosomed mistress of the south, whose domains, watered by the great river, rose sheer out of the surrounding desert. »
Robert E. Howard - Black Colossus
« Behind all came a camel in rich housings, led by a knight on a great war-horse, and surrounded by a clump of picked fighters from the royal house troops. Its rider, under the silken canopy of the seat, was a slim, silk-clad figure, at the sight of which the populace, always mindful of royalty, threw up its leather cap and cheered wildly. Conan the Cimmerian, restless in his plate armor, stared at the bedecked camel with no great approval, and spoke to Amalric, who rode beside him, resplendent in chain mail threaded with gold, golden breastplate and helmet with flowing horsehair crest. »
Robert E. Howard - Black Colossus
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jerome_lam wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
So someone posted this link http://www.kingpledger.com/be535af327595b57633db3f75faedc79?share=2f6ea696f3e383b8b6d758ff87578ab6 which is an unofficial pledge manager just to help figure your total costs. Right now we are looking at $492 for one of everything with a king bundle, that's before shipping. If you get a king bundle and one of each of the kickstarter exclusive items it's $192 plus shipping. I think I'm going for just the king and exclusives, while the e pensions seem like they will be GREAT, I see them as adding more shipping costs and they are only $5 less than retail price.

Hi,
I'm the creator of this unofficial pledge manager.
I hope you'll like it and if you have suggestions, remarks or if you see issues, don't hesitate to let me know here, by PM or via facebook (https://www.facebook.com/KingPledger)

I also updated the shipping estimations following the last updates of Monolith.

Have fun!
http://www.kingpledger.com

Thanks for creating the Unofficial Pledge Manager and thanks for signing up and posting on Dakka Dakka!

And, of course, welcome to Dakka Dakka!

so new SG - not Zenobia or a female hero - its a camel - nice reference but not really somethig that I wanted - ah plenty of other good stuff....

I might be silly, but how about extra stamina gems or stuff like that. We got extra dice already, and I could see us run out of gems if we ran an all Conan team.

Love the camel SG

$45 seems REALLY high for US Shipping from a US hub. I've had some fairly heavy boxes come from CMoN, and none of them have even been remotely that high.

Very curious.

 cincydooley wrote:
$45 seems REALLY high for US Shipping from a US hub. I've had some fairly heavy boxes come from CMoN, and none of them have even been remotely that high.

Very curious.

They estimated on the high end. It will almost certainly end up lower. Better than, for example, CMON surprising people with massive shipping fees in the PM, no? At least here you can make an educated decision about your pledge total, or if you want to keep your pledge at all.

 Alex C wrote:


They estimated on the high end. It will almost certainly end up lower. Better than, for example, CMON surprising people with massive shipping fees in the PM, no? At least here you can make an educated decision about your pledge total, or if you want to keep your pledge at all.

I've never experienced this mythical "massive shipping fee" from CMoN. My Zombicide 3 pledge, with two rather large boxed games and all the extras, was $13. Now, I'm in Ohio and its coming from Georgia, but that's still pretty inexpensive.

My shipping cost for SDE Forgotten King, with two full sets of the games and multiple extras, was only $15 (so $25 if you include their credit) and that's coming from the west coast.

So again, I think $45 is a bit farther out than just "the high end." It's the skyscraper end.

A lot of overseas folks were seeing $50-$100 (+ taxes) for Z3.

Granted, $45 is higher for US than Z3 or SDE.

But again, high end estimate and was given to us before the close of the funding period. I just consider it compared to all the SG we get and I'm ok with it.

 Alex C wrote:
A lot of overseas folks were seeing $50-$100 (+ taxes) for Z3.

Granted, $45 is higher for US than Z3 or SDE.

But again, high end estimate and was given to us before the close of the funding period. I just consider it compared to all the SG we get and I'm ok with it.

They should be receiving bulk discounting. It's shipping from within the US to the US. And $45 is half the cost of the game itself. Those three factors alone make it a really tough pill to swallow.

Hopefully they'll address it and factor in the substantial bulk discount they should get, and then make another post.

I mean, this is the first criticism I've had of the campaign, as I think it's been really well run. But $45 is a bit much and people are going to be understandably turned off by it

I'm sure they will get a bulk discount, but until they are in a position to know exactly what it might be (so number of packages, and maximum weights) they won't be able to get an exact amount

better to over estimate than under estimate (unless you're prepared to swallow any excess)

I know a bunch of folk from South America and Australasia (hopefully their new shipping hub down their will have fisxed that in future) have been badly stung in some of the CMON KS that have needed shipping after the fact (although they've been right for America and the EU

I have been shipping boxes across the US for 7 years and I ONLY spend upwards of $25.00 on shipping int he US when I have a MASSIVE box full of a few hundred figures packaged in clamshells.

$45 for domestic shipping in the US for a boxed board game from a US hub is ridiculous plain and simple.

A bit of a rookie move, but looks like it didn't hurt too much. They would have been better served saying to figure $25, but could be higher or lower depending on location. To put things into perspective, shipping a 20 lb (9 KG) package from L.A. to Boston costs under $40 at the personal rate (business/bulk are quite a bit cheaper), much less a more centralized shipping warehouse. No way a core pledge is going to be anywhere near 20 lbs.

I really would love to know how they came up with $45; just out of curiosity more than anything else.

They pulled the cost of a 8kg? (some fixed amount that would be more than the maximum of everything) insured tracked shipment off the FedEx website and those are the numbers they have used

they have said that this does NOT mean they will use FedEx (although it is one of the options), but will look around and negotiate any possible discounts with a variety of shippers after the KS when they have more time

(can't remember if this is from them in the comments or in an update)

I can actually see a King pledge with a bunch of add-ons being 20 lbs.!

Don't forget the weight of all the paper. No joke with all the card stock profiles and everything this will be one heavy beast. I missed out on zombicide, and haven't gone as crazy on an other set yet like I'll be doing here. I figure my shipping will still be well lower than what they have estimated.