New 7th Ed Sanctus Reach Campaign boxset - Stormclaw - new pics page 9

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**KTG17**

But Basil, what does all this mean?

**pretre**

Bulldogging wrote:
EDIT: Wait, can you start in another units DT in 7e? Could still do DPs stolen from Long Fangs.

No.

**KTG17**

Pretre what are the scenarios like? I wish there were more than 3. How hard is it to come up with some scenarios.

**gungo**

I'm confused does grukk have his own separate dataslate and what is it? And if not and he is only part of this formation I assume it is usable in any 40k game.

**Looky Likey**

Krom & Grukk get their own data slates.

The first two missions are tailored to prevent one side having an unfair advantage despite this being a lopsided set:

Mission 1 the Wolves can only lose if their Grey Hunters, their only unit, get wiped out, anything else is a Wolves victory.
Mission 2 the Wolves can only win if they are at least 4 VP head of the Orks

Mission 3 is just everything without a way to balance the lack of Orks that I can see, although Orks can DS the entire formation anywhere on turn 1, I'm not convinced that does anything other than make the Wolves job easier.

**pretre**

What do Grukk and Krom get for rules?

**Bulldogging**

From people on Bolterandchainsword. Krom doesn't even have runic armor, Grey hunters don't have true grit(full weapons load out).

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/293829-krom-dragongaze-rules/

I assume the forum link is ok...

CatSmasher, on 16 Jul 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

Like in the new ork codex all units come as dataslates, so it should be no problem using him as HQ. Maybe you can even "build" your own Krom with the current SW codex, but I don't have it to make sure. He costs the same as a Ironclad Dread his stats are 6/5/4/4/3/5/4/10, 3+. He is quipped with a Boltpistol,Frag and Krak grenads and the belt of russ (4++). also he has a wyrmtalon, his +2,AP2 mastercrafted axe. USR: ATSKNF,counterattack,furious charge,acute senses, stubborn. His warlord trait is (translated) "Saga of the born warrior": He has to make challenges and accept them whenever possible but can reroll all to hit rolls if he fights in a challenge.

CatSmasher, on 16 Jul 2014 - 12:58 PM, said:

The rules for Krom are covered in the other post, so I'll give you those for Grukk: 5pts cheaper than Krom, 5/2/5/5/3/4/4/9,4+. He has a (excuse me if I don't properly translate the ork weapons, I don't know all their english names) combigun with bazooka, a squig that lets him reroll 1 to hit die in close combat, a bosspole and stikkbombz along with his special Gitripper, a x2,AP2, rending energy claw. USR are green horde, ere we go, furious charge, feel no pain and can call a Waagh. His warlor trait is "roaring tyran" which lets him and all friendly ork units in 12" reroll failed morale or pinning tests.

Judging by the language issues, this seems to be a cut and paste reply from some other source, so its not as reliable as the guy actually having seen it

Dewi Sant, on 17 Jul 2014 - 03:37 AM, said:

Right I have the box set sat in front of me.

The rules for Krom are correct.

What I am worried about though is that the grey hunters don't have BP, BG and CCW as standard! By Russ I hope this isn't the case when the codex comes out!

**greggles**

Thanks for this. Been wondering about their data slate rules for a few pages now, was surprised no one had posted them up yet!

So grukk has a power claw, which is AP2, which also has rending? Does it strike at init? Confused as to why an AP2 weapon has rending.

**reds8n**

From the above B & C link

Mr. Dewi Sant wrote:
here is a third book coming out called Sanctus Reach: Hour of the Wolf

Hengist & Egil gain an extra attack.

Blood Claws still WS3 BS3 (same for Egil) and have rage.

Judging by the box Canis and his giant space hamster are here to stay.

WG 230p
TDAx5
Beoric Winterfang SB/FS
1WG TH/SS
1WG HF/PF
1WG SB/PF
1WG SB/CF

GH 125p
5x PA with a BP Frag and Krak
Hengist with Power Axe
1x PP/CS
1x PG
2x BG

BC 110
5x PA with frag and Krak
Egil with BP/PF
1x PP/CS
3x BP/CS

I know what you mean about Uber grit, I still hope we haven't lost it. Head strong wasn't really a problem because you could always get around it.

Worth bearing in mind this could indeed just be for this scenario/ campaign.

**Bulldogging**

As far as formations go, Grukk's blows Kroms away.

I wish I had chosen to keep the Ork side, lol.

**A Town Called Malus**

greggles wrote:
Thanks for this. Been wondering about their data slate rules for a few pages now, was surprised no one had posted them up yet!

So grukk has a power claw, which is AP2, which also has rending? Does it strike at init? Confused as to why an AP2 weapon has rending.

Doesn't Rending give a bonus to Armour Penetration if you roll a 6? So that might be its use.

**Bulldogging**

Some good news.

Valerian, on 17 Jul 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Several disappointments there, but I'll hold out hope that:

1. Frost Weapons have gone down by at least 10 points, since they remain unchanged, and

2. That Grey Hunters can buy CCWs for 1 point each to regain Ultragrit, should the owning player choose to.

So that's something.

A Town Called Malus wrote:
greggles wrote:
Thanks for this. Been wondering about their data slate rules for a few pages now, was surprised no one had posted them up yet!

So grukk has a power claw, which is AP2, which also has rending? Does it strike at init? Confused as to why an AP2 weapon has rending.

Doesn't Rending give a bonus to Armour Penetration if you roll a 6? So that might be its use.

To get the extra pen you have to roll a 6. If you roll a 6 with a STR 10 you're at 16 pen already. So not sure. Maybe he can rend without using the powerclaw if he wants to strike at initiative, as in it's his own rule and not the claws?

**A Town Called Malus**

Bulldogging wrote:

A Town Called Malus wrote:
greggles wrote:
Thanks for this. Been wondering about their data slate rules for a few pages now, was surprised no one had posted them up yet!

So grukk has a power claw, which is AP2, which also has rending? Does it strike at init? Confused as to why an AP2 weapon has rending.

Doesn't Rending give a bonus to Armour Penetration if you roll a 6? So that might be its use.

To get the extra pen you have to roll a 6. If you roll a 6 with a STR 10 you're at 16 pen already. So not sure. Maybe he can rend without using the powerclaw if he wants to strike at initiative, as in it's his own rule and not the claws?

Yeah, does seem a bit pointless unless it is his own special rule.

Had forgotten that Warbosses were S5.

**pretre**

Bulldogging wrote:
Some good news.

Valerian, on 17 Jul 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Several disappointments there, but I'll hold out hope that:

1. Frost Weapons have gone down by at least 10 points, since they remain unchanged, and

2. That Grey Hunters can buy CCWs for 1 point each to regain Ultragrit, should the owning player choose to.

So that's something.

That's speculation, not news. He's 'hoping' for that.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Krom is disappointing from a mechanical standpoint. The mini still looks ace though.

**streamdragon**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Bulldogging wrote:

A Town Called Malus wrote:
greggles wrote:
Thanks for this. Been wondering about their data slate rules for a few pages now, was surprised no one had posted them up yet!

So grukk has a power claw, which is AP2, which also has rending? Does it strike at init? Confused as to why an AP2 weapon has rending.

Doesn't Rending give a bonus to Armour Penetration if you roll a 6? So that might be its use.

To get the extra pen you have to roll a 6. If you roll a 6 with a STR 10 you're at 16 pen already. So not sure. Maybe he can rend without using the powerclaw if he wants to strike at initiative, as in it's his own rule and not the claws?

Yeah, does seem a bit pointless unless it is his own special rule.

Had forgotten that Warbosses were S5.

Most likely GW just didn't think about the fact that throwing rending on a Warboss's power klaw was pointless.

**Bulldogging**

pretre wrote:
Bulldogging wrote:
Some good news.

Valerian, on 17 Jul 2014 - 08:31 AM, said:

Several disappointments there, but I'll hold out hope that:

1. Frost Weapons have gone down by at least 10 points, since they remain unchanged, and

2. That Grey Hunters can buy CCWs for 1 point each to regain Ultragrit, should the owning player choose to.

So that's something.

That's speculation, not news. He's 'hoping' for that.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Krom is disappointing from a mechanical standpoint. The mini still looks ace though.

Oh sorry, I guess my optimism made me read it wrong.

**MasterSlowPoke**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Yeah, does seem a bit pointless unless it is his own special rule.

Had forgotten that Warbosses were S5.

It'll help if he's Enfeebled, but that's about it.

**Looky Likey**

The mini is indeed awesome, although he is like the other standalone plastic HQs in that he is cut to make it difficult to kitbash anything else onto him such as a different arm, head, etc, hence why I sold my second one. Grokk isn't as good, but he is better than the Black Reach Warboss he is based on.

**pretre**

Looky Likey wrote:
The mini is indeed awesome, although he is like the other standalone plastic HQs in that he is cut to make it difficult to kitbash anything else onto him such as a different arm, head, etc, hence why I sold my second one. Grokk isn't as good, but he is better than the Black Reach Warboss he is based on.

Are you talking about Krom? Because the sprue pics make it looks reaaaallly easy to swap arms and heads on Krom.

**Rubs**

Got the box here. Grukk has shred, not rending.

**pretre**

Now that's useful!

**Looky Likey**

Yup Krom,his torso is a barrel with one built in leg and a ton of bling rather than concave for the separate legs and head, his arms fit in small pieces with notches on and his one leg is pre bent so it'll only look right on the rock or similar. He isn't impossible to convert but he'll need far more green stuff than he should. Weapon swaps easy, head ok with some snipping, changing his pose would be hard.

**streamdragon**

Rubs wrote:
Got the box here. Grukk has shred, not rending.

Now that's a ~~horse~~ squig of a different color!

**Kanluwen**

To give an idea as to how many copies you should be expecting to see at a local GW; my own local GW has 20+ that are separate entirely from their preorder allocations.

**Bulldogging**

Rubs wrote:
Got the box here. Grukk has shred, not rending.

Anything else reported wrong? Like...the entirety of the crap Krom+His boys rules?

**pretre**

**Soss**

Does Grukk have Cybork Body or Feel no Pain?

**Captain Blood**

Kanluwen wrote:
To give an idea as to how many copies you should be expecting to see at a local GW; my own local GW has 20+ that are separate entirely from their preorder allocations.

If that pattern is repeated it could bust the dreams of a few ebay scalpers

**Kanluwen**

Captain Blood wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
To give an idea as to how many copies you should be expecting to see at a local GW; my own local GW has 20+ that are separate entirely from their preorder allocations.

If that pattern is repeated it could bust the dreams of a few ebay scalpers

The nearest five GWs to me(one is in my city, the other across my state, and the remainder are out of state) are all reporting similar allocations.

**legions_no_more**

My local GW stated they will have 24 in stock on Saturday. Limit one to customer, or if you are a regular customer, you may have up to 3. The GW employee is stopping scalpers and ebayers. Good looking out from GW.