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They'll prolly run demos post Gen-con.

The game has playable Star Destroys, so it is a day one purchase.

This looks really, really cool. Very excited.

I just realized that this, minus the fighters, is what I hoped Star Trek: Attack Wing would be. IE, take the broad-stroke ideas of X-wing, and adapt it to capitol ships.

Shame Wizkids was in such a rush to cash-grab.

Starship Battles lives again!

..sort of.

....oh gak. My poor, poor abused wallet.

 insaniak wrote:

Or I could just, you know, not over-react, and mention that I don't like it and won't be buying it?

Indeed. Sadly it just doesn't tick the boxes for me, but I'm sure it'll be a success.

*gasp*

How dare they!!!

Even if I don't buy this (yeah, right...), I am definitely getting an ISD when it is released.

how can they announce it 6 months out? they should do it a week before like GW so I can get it now!

I've got the same perspective on capital ship warfare scale as mentioned elsewhere in the thread: doesn't especially bother me. I'll be very interested in their finalized movement mechanics; one of the things I liked best about BFG/ACTA was that capital ships WERE ponderous.

Well...I guess I know where the money I haven't been spending on GW is going!

Incidentally, how has Battlefleet Gothic aged? If I were to buy up old models would the game still be great, or am I best served waiting for the new-gen options like this and the game from the DZC team?

how can they announce it 6 months out? they should do it a week before like GW so I can get it now!

Hell, no! If it was announced like GW does things I could get it a lot sooner after finding out about it, lol!

I also love how people will refuse to even consider a game because two of the ships are not accurately in scale with each other. Nerd much?

Who cares? This game made my pregnant wife immediately say ,"Whoa, that's pretty sweet". There is no valid argument after that.

Incidentally, how has Battlefleet Gothic aged? If I were to buy up old models would the game still be great, or am I best served waiting for the new-gen options like this and the game from the DZC team?

Really, as long as you don't mind playing a game where the ships are fighting like sailing ships, BFG is awesome if you can stomach what it takes to buy the ships currently. I have cardstock flats made from the Vassal BFG sprites, and I played the game when it first came out as a demo in White Dwarf, and I would play it tomorrow.

 insaniak wrote:
Or I could just, you know, not over-react

Pretty sure it is to late for that when you go all SRS BZNSS mode on what is fairly obviously a bit of light-hearted banter. *hug*


The urge to send wave after wave of Tie Fighter squadrons at mine enemies is growing exponentially; no section of the board will go untouched.

It will be very hard for me to not spend a lot of money on this when it comes out. I still believe Battlefleet Gothic was GW's best game, and this may fill that "capital ship game" sized whole in my gaming heart.

As for the scale, as long as the small ships are small, the medium ships are medium, and the big ships are big, I will be happy. I do not need 100% exact scaling in my space fantasy. A certain level of abstraction is required when dealing with size and distance in the vastness of space (and, if it helps keep the costs lower so I can buy, yes, please).

I can see why the fighters would be unpainted, as they would probably be too small for whatever painting process they use to paint them.

This is exactly what I have been waiting for.

When X-Wing came out I knew that because of scale issues there would never be large scale capital class battles. I never liked the few starfighters per side deal. I want to command a proper fleet.

This is everything I ever hoped for and am super excited. I was looking for a new game to replace 40K and here it is.

Heh, was just dropping out of X-Wing as I noted a few days ago to Aura that what I was missing was the capital ships.. I like fighters, but I want them buzzing between bigger ships ala BFG.. and there we go.

Will be getting into this in a big way.

The box set looks awesome and the minis are gorgeous. That said if i am gonna be a technical geek about it the box contents are completely off. I mean a corvette and a medical frigate versus a star destroyer?!!!!! THis battle would be over in about ten seconds ( amount of time it would take to target the med frigate and then suck the corvette into the landing bay of the SD! Seems way off! That said again its gorgeous

At least it will be more economical to have a fully painted Rogue Squadron at your disposal.

I mean a corvette and a medical frigate versus a star destroyer?!!!!!

To be truthful, it's a standard Escort Frigate and a Corvette, against one of the smallest classes of Star Destroyer. In lots of EU battles, adding in the X-Wings versus TIEs can actually swing the battle in the favor of the Rebels.

Time to paint up my kids basketball like the deathstar

 AegisGrimm wrote:

I also love how people will refuse to even consider a game because two of the ships are not accurately in scale with each other. Nerd much?

Unabashedly so, yes.

Having at least a semi-accurate nod to scale is a large part of setting up the illusion in a miniatures battle. It's irritating enough when, say, a transport vehicle is not quite large enough to fit the models it's supposed to transport. It's worse when you get to the size disparity between the corvette and the star destroyer here.

I fully realise it's not an issue for many people... But for me, a good miniatures game is just as much about the miniatures as it is about playing the game.

Oh my god, yes yes yes. Shut up and take my money.

Also wonder why there's no kickstarter for this one? Didn't they kickstarter the x-wing game?

 Theophony wrote:
Also wonder why there's no kickstarter for this one?

Presumably because they didn't need to...

They didn't kickstart x-wing either, you might be muddling it up with one of the various third-party terrain or templates kickstarters that are always running?

John D Law wrote:
I mean a corvette and a medical frigate versus a star destroyer?!!!!!

The ion cannon will fire several shots to make sure that any enemy ships will be out of your flight path.

"I've got a bad feeling about this"

-My wallet.


Dear Goddess, it is a horrifying thing to be a target audience. I don't think I could possibly not buy this product. X-wing was nothing more than the gateway drug. Next thing you know they'll release a mass combat ground game styled after Epic!

 Gitzbitah wrote:

Next thing you know they'll release a mass combat ground game styled after Epic!

I think my wallet just threw itself into the dog's dinner bowl at the mere thought of such a thing. (love's chewing leather that one)


As to scale, I can understand that, but the fighters are enver to scale in these kind of games, so it tends not to bother me, Babyllon 5 Wars which is still one of my all time faves had the same issues, and I just skimmed over it and enjoyed the carnage... and ticking of boxes... so many boxes.

Does this mean my Starwars Battlefleet minis (dead dog gak game) are no longer useless?

Edited by insaniak. Please do not circumvent the language filter

I think I'll wait and see if we get a game out of the possible Bablyon 5 reboot and hope that it's at least in scale