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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:20:03
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Killing for peace, kinda like fething for virginity isn't it?
http://thelibertydoll.com/2014/08/22/meet-woman-reduce-male-population-90-for-peace/
For the lazy who don't want to click:
TLDR at the bottom.
VICE: I assume The Ratio refers to your belief the male population should be reduced to between by 90 percent.
The Femitheist: I believe that conventional equality, with a 50/50 female-to-male ratio, is an inferior system. Essentially my ideas lead to men being made a special class—a far more valued class—having choice of a myriad of women due to the difference in sex ratio. That is my intention. Men would be made more valuable, and their quality of life would be dramatically improved. They would have a subsidised existence if you will, akin to going on an all-expenses paid vacation that lasts from birth to death.
Assuming people are down for that, how could you reduce the male population by that much? Are you talking culling or selective breeding over years?
Obviously men comprise a substantial portion of the victims of violent crime and participate heavily in war, so there will always be deaths there—but certainly not culling. I don’t advocate selective slaughter or brutal processes.
So how would you achieve it?
Further research into designer babies will be necessary: manipulating gender or sex, prenatal sex discernment, sex-selective abortions, development of dual-female progeny (babies created from two mothers), and numerous other mechanisms will be utilised in order to achieve these aspirations. They won’t be enforced or mandated to achieve the goal in the short-term, but merely heavily encouraged in the early stages. Unless one opposes abortion, there’s little ethical reason to find that too outrageous a proposition. The maths has already been done on all of the genetic and population-sustainment-related issues: population bottleneck, inbreeding, mutations, et cetera. Everything works out in favour of my ideas. I’ve been meticulous and cautious. I’ve had the work reviewed by people who are experts—or at least extremely knowledgeable—in biology and genetics, and I’ve received confirmation that it all works out.
That’s in theory, what about in practice?
It’ll require the re-teaching of everyone—female and male—in classrooms, homes, through literature, media, art, and networks. It is a process that would take decades, generations, and perhaps even a few centuries. Nevertheless, these are things that should be done to forge a new and vastly superior world. My mission is to devise and describe a framework for the carrying out and success of such objectives.
What kind of men would you choose for breeding? Do you base selection on physical or mental characteristics?
The most suitable men would simply be those who are fit in both body and mind. This is also related to genetic modification.
Genetic engineering is already taking place by way of tests given to couples when they marry to prevent the passing of dangerous genetic material. There is no doubt such concepts will expand as we understand more about how the genome actually works. Healthy and fit men will always be ideal, but not “brutes,” which has more to do with mental attributes than physical. Anyone can lift weights. Any criteria decided upon as the quintessential grade would have to be extensively defined and revised as time goes on, or as science advances and the human species and its needs evolve.
Would men be kept in isolation like stud horses?
I believe we must remove men from the community and place them in their own specific sections of society, akin to subsidised or state-funded reservations, so they can be redefined. We can make not only men safer, but women as well. By subsidising said reservations through the state we can provide men with activities, healthcare, entertainment, shelter, protection, and everything that one could ever require in life. This will remove conventional inequality from society. By reducing the number of men to 10 percent of the total population, their socio-biovalue will be raised. They will live out their lives happily and safely, and male disposability will be a thing of the past.
But don’t men have value beyond breeding?
If technology has not advanced to a point where labour can be done without men, the few men that are necessary for said labour will be allowed to work on the outside of the reservations to complete whatever tasks necessary—if they wish.
Like slaves?
Not as slaves, simply as workers performing a duty, in the same way workers today do. Only without the need for monetary reimbursement as they would have no need for such a thing. This would be highly monitored and regulated.
What about the ambitions of the individual? Some men may aspire to more than luxury breeding pens.
Some would argue it would be a dystopian world because it wouldn’t be free in the present conventional sense. However that is misguided. It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict where people cooperate and are treated properly within a well-engineered and long-forged system. If everything is great for almost everyone the point is null. Survival and socio-organic wellbeing are the most important elements in life. Diversity of principles and standards is only necessary in a world of multiple nations, cultures, societies, and religions due to fear of oppression. So, how is this world any better? Because some people have potential opportunities to do certain things?
That’s kind of depressing.
The purpose of living is merely to persist and perpetuate our species. If someone is willing to give you all you require to survive and live comfortably, simply because you exist, then you have already achieved all that truly matters.
Doesn’t all this dismiss the notion of companionship and the family unit?
Heterosexual companionship and the nuclear family model, yes.
What do you propose as alternatives?
Children should be raised communally and by the state. The nuclear family model is a breeding ground of deceptions, mediocrities, treacheries, hypocrisy, and violence. It needs to be abolished. Bigotry, prejudice, and antiquated convictions are passed down through each generation. The conventional family unit indoctrinates our youth and drains them of their potential. My solution would be to assign children caretakers whose task would simply be to provide shelter, food, clothing, and protection for each child—all of which would be yielded by the state. Perfect girls will be conceived, developed, and engineered in state-owned breeding centers. They will be bound together in a communal venue under the instruction and control of female savants.
But realistically that’s not what’s best for the kids.
Children must be provided a proper education, a sex-separated education that will focus on developing real-world skills and capacities for concept building. They will be taught the reality of true equality, production, labour, and will be provided a better understanding of sexuality, science, culture and ethnicity. If children are made wards of the state with assigned caretakers, not only will it be easier to undo the constraints of bigotry and the other archaic beliefs that are passed down from parents to their children, but children can be used to monitor the older generations in regard to the propagation of bigoted and antediluvian values. It is about creating a unified perception.
Does this assume all women would automatically form lesbian relationships?
Relationships between females and males have been different throughout all of history. Associations between women and men differ with the time and popular socialisation. Today that is not common or normalised, but as time passes more women are interested in other women or are willing to indulge and experiment.
Then you think sexual orientation can be designed?
Absolutely. I believe sexual orientation, like most but not all things, comes from socialisation as well as genetics—with a heavier influence from genetics. Anyone who contends that sexual orientation is purely genetic is either disingenuous or foolish. Eventually, we will be able to engineer people to a greater preference for their own sex. It seems to me that a lot of women are far more open to homosexuality than men, or at least are more willing to experiment, and why is that?
I’m not sure, you think it’s genetic?
Perhaps it’s partially genetic, but it’s also due to an ingrained fear that men have of appearing homosexual because that isn’t what a “man” is supposed to be. With the combined forces of social and genetic engineering, we can easily reshape and mold human sexuality into whatever we desire.
TL R; "Feminist" wants to reduce male population by 90% and enslave the rest as a stable breeding population.
This isn't feminism, this is A. the plot of the Anne Rice novel "Queen of the Damned" turned into a political movement and B. crazier then a weasel stuffed in a redneck's overalls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:43:12
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Well, at least she's pretty cute, right?
Oh, crap! Did I just do sexism? I must be a bad person.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:45:15
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Hordini wrote:Well, at least she's pretty cute, right?
Oh, crap! Did I just do sexism? I must be a bad person. 
Looks like your destined for the "not happy fun time" male reserve zone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:47:40
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Swastakowey wrote: Hordini wrote:Well, at least she's pretty cute, right?
Oh, crap! Did I just do sexism? I must be a bad person. 
Looks like your destined for the "not happy fun time" male reserve zone 
I knew it! She's going to pick me for castration next! My life is ruined! Learn from my mistakes, fellow Dakkaites!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:54:24
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oh look, yet another vocal crazy seeking to further tarnish actual feminism by hiding their own misandristic agendas behind it.
*Yawn*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 01:55:56
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:02:30
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict where people cooperate and are treated properly within a well-engineered and long-forged system.
This is one of the most naive things I've ever read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:03:52
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TL;DR - 'Oh hahaha I was joking about ICD. The 90:10 bit stands.'
Still crazy. Automatically Appended Next Post: dogma wrote:It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict where people cooperate and are treated properly within a well-engineered and long-forged system.
This is one of the most naive things I've ever read.
She corrects her references to a utopia to 'eutopia' in the 'corrections' link above, because apparently: "(eutopia = good place, utopia = no place)" and "And as an aside: yes, I draw a distinction between “eutopia” and “utopia,” and prefer the former because it is more accurate in terms of what I discuss and propose. They changed my spelling to the latter."
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:11:33
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Heroic Senior Officer
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dogma wrote:It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict where people cooperate and are treated properly within a well-engineered and long-forged system.
This is one of the most naive things I've ever read.
Considering how some women I know fight and hold grudges, it would bring about an era of pain and suffering the likes of which would make the Hatfield and McCoy feud look like a friendly disagreement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:13:07
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Veteran ORC
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Hmmm, Death, or Death by Snu Snu?
Also, would The Purge become a monthly thing under this new world order?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:20:21
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Still need to check off "cisgendered" something, and "social justice warriors" something else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:21:52
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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MrMoustaffa wrote:
Considering how some women I know fight and hold grudges, it would bring about an era of pain and suffering the likes of which would make the Hatfield and McCoy feud look like a friendly disagreement.
Yeah, the fact that women are relatively less aggressive than men has as much to do with gender norms as it does genetics. Take those norms away and I guarantee there would be no appreciable decline in global violence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:22:23
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Ouze wrote:Still need to check off "cisgendered" something, and "social justice warriors" something else.
Something, something...white privilege. Something, something...patriarchy. Automatically Appended Next Post: dogma wrote: MrMoustaffa wrote:
Considering how some women I know fight and hold grudges, it would bring about an era of pain and suffering the likes of which would make the Hatfield and McCoy feud look like a friendly disagreement.
Yeah, the fact that women are relatively less aggressive than men has as much to do with gender norms as it does genetics. Take those norms away and I guarantee there would be no appreciable decline in global violence.
I'd be willing to bet female on female violence would rise immensely, with a male population reduced to 10%.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:25:20
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Hordini wrote: Ouze wrote:Still need to check off "cisgendered" something, and "social justice warriors" something else.
Something, something...white privilege. Something, something...patriarchy.  .
Thanks, I knew I had an incomplete checklist
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:28:25
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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You're welcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:31:37
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Hordini wrote:
I'd be willing to bet female on female violence would rise immensely, with a male population reduced to 10%.
Especially given that, with such a small male population, female homosexual tension would become a much more significant issue. Particularly if, as it sounds this woman intends, heterosexual activity was (for women) limited to reproduction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:35:07
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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She represents feminism in the same way the KKK represents Christianity.
dogma wrote:It will be utopian because it will be a world almost without conflict where people cooperate and are treated properly within a well-engineered and long-forged system.
This is one of the most naive things I've ever read.
Good lord, and you taught undergrads!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 02:46:11
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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The only thing that comes close is the girl that spent an entire semester trying to defend her proposal for a global minimum wage. I wish I still had copies of her papers, they were comedy gold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 03:06:03
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Wouldn't the world drown in un-eaten sandwiches?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 03:09:36
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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dogma wrote:
The only thing that comes close is the girl that spent an entire semester trying to defend her proposal for a global minimum wage. I wish I still had copies of her papers, they were comedy gold.
TAing undergrad philosophy courses must have been a trip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 03:39:30
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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Hordini wrote:
TAing undergrad philosophy courses must have been a trip.
Philosophy and political science. Though, honestly, the philosophy courses weren't too bad because nearly every student phoned their papers in by regurgitating the material (though some of the errors were hilarious), and the ones that didn't expressed deliberate curiosity*. Political science, on the other hand...well Obama had recently been elected and many of the papers were more vitriol than reason as a result. I remember a student arguing that the the purpose of the Electoral college was to get Obama elected. That student failed.
*It helped that I was only 24, and so didn't come off as being imperious when I shot their ideas down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:01:09
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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..Have these people never heard of female war leaders? Like Boudicca of the Celts?
Or even just Wikipedia?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_ancient_warfare
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:02:24
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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The word cisgendered makes me want to punch things.
This girl though. Man. I'm not even sure being cute would make me want to spend anything longer than an elevator ride with her.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:09:23
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Isn't this a mash of the plot Dr. Strangeglove?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:23:17
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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That seems like such a reasonable idea, and absolutely no one could possibly forsee any problem with its implementation.....
I wonder what her opinion would be if the roles were reversed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:28:00
Subject: Re:Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Reminds me of this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:30:40
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No I think the wars would be worse
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:42:15
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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First and last warning for the thread. Posts edited where they needed it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:52:23
Subject: Killing for Peace: A Bold New "Feminist" plan to improve the world
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Ridiculous article aside, lemme make a wild guess. You guys don't eat ice cream very often.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/23 04:56:42
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jasper76 wrote:Ridiculous article aside, lemme make a wild guess. You guys don't eat ice cream very often.
I love Ice Cream too much. Seriously, I dont buy it now because I cant stop eating the stuff. Its like a drug to me. My partner hates it because we are now (finally) an ice cream free household. I dont get how it relates to a story that should be a crazy novel and not someones personal opinions though
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