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2014/12/05 21:11:42
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
That suggests they only had a limited time frame to cast some, or wanted to generate some false rarity to encourage those clicks.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Smaug was probably made due to the licensing agreement. There are better dragons out there for cheaper, IMO, so I don't understand it. The paint job on the store one looks a bit airbrushed and "fuggedaboudit".
Also, the tactical squads slowly creeping up in price... I thought the Marine one was $38, but now it's $40. The BA one is now $43. You'd think after a year of the biggest volume of releases with this "plan" in mind would have told them it's a bad move.
Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
2014/12/05 21:17:58
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
RiTides wrote: So they only are selling 200 of them, lol... why even bother (for a company of GW's size). Heresy even sold more dragons than that, although to be fair they haven't Delivered more than that yet
Also, apparently it's just standard resin:
Games Workshop wrote:Smaug™ is made from the same resin as Forge World miniatures.
Because this was the initial batch, and it's only being sold via the Webstore.
They are very likely being cast in small runs so that the molds can last longer.
2014/12/05 22:03:41
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
There are only 200 Webstore Exclusive Smaug™ miniatures available before christmas. Order yours today and receive a free upgrade to courier delivery, complete with a tracking number for extra peace of mind.
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There are only 200 Webstore Exclusive Smaug™ miniatures available before christmas. Order yours today and receive a free upgrade to courier delivery, complete with a tracking number for extra peace of mind.
The mighty fire-drake, Smaug™ is doubtless the largest and most powerful of his kind left in Middle-earth™.
Smaug™ is built upon a stunningly detailed scenic base that depicts the vast treasures of Erebor. The Arkenstone™ and The One Ring can both clearly be seen amongst the gems and gold as Smaug™ looms over the would-be burglar Bilbo Baggins™.
This magnificent 42 piece miniature is hand cast using the highest quality resin (the same used by Forge World), and the most advanced techniques to produce a model with extremely fine detail. Every scale, horn and battle-scar has been expertly reproduced to create a beatifically authentic collectors piece.
Weighing in at 2.4kgs, the height of the miniature from the bottom of the base to the tip of Smaug’s™ wing is 8.4 inches (or 21.4 cm). The base is 9.2 inches (or 23.1 cm) long and 5.4 inches (or 13.3 cm) wide.
Please note: This miniature is not recommended for children under the age of 14. Advanced modelling skills are required. It is supplied unpainted and requires assembly - we recommend using Citadel Super Glue: Thick and Citadel Paints. Some preparation and cleaning will be required prior to painting. Small areas of flash and mould lines will need to be filed or sanded, and larger casting gates will need to be removed before construction.
Automatically Appended Next Post: That's over 5 pounds of resin. Sheeeeit.
Note they specifically point out that that its Forgeworld resin used which they describe as 'the highest quality'. As good an admission as any that 'Finecast' is a dog they know isn't good enough for quality casting.
2014/12/05 22:47:26
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Admittedly only £50 cheaper, but might make the difference.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Fair play, he's not lacking the "phwoar!" department either is he? (the head in particular, is rather uber!)
I also recall that Mierce Miniatures have a rather nice dragon (or two!?) but I'm just not in the market for large even more expensive than even GW's larget of models... err, models, myself.
Maybe one day I'll have more money than sense. Or just less sense!
For now I'll just admire from afar and post my admiration on an internet message board!
(ta for the dragon porn, though! )
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2014/12/05 23:21:03
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Angry Slag (the Mierce one) is much cheaper, I'm not sure on RRP as I got mine on the KS, but well under half the two Smaugs. Different order of magnitude though, she's big (100mm base and overhangs it, tall too) but more "big for a gaming piece" rather than "could substitute as the table decoration at Christmas!"
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: Probably closer to 30k after costs and taxes, and that's not an awful lot for GW.
That is nothing when a company is supposed to be making 10's of millions for profit each year.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2014/12/05 23:59:52
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: And Smaug does look sublime, hopefully a few Dakka posters can blog their experiences with the miniature.
I have to say that it's certainly one of their better-looking minis, though it looks a lot less imposing than the other one I linked to earlier. For a model like this, and especially at that price, they really should have gone to town with it. I'd much prefer a version of Smaug with wings unfurled and standing a little more upright at least...in my opinion the GW model suffers because they tried to squish him down to fit on a base that was too small for him.
His treasure hoard looks a lot cooler than the Weta statue, though, that's for sure. Looks a lot less cheap, you can actually see stuff like coins and chests and apparently even the Arkenstone, instead of a crappy texture repeatedly stamped into a lump of putty.
Anyway, as for Dakka posters blogging their experiences with it...did anyone from Dakka actually get one? It sold out so quickly I imagine most of us wouldn't have had time to react even if we did have the money.
Admittedly only £50 cheaper, but might make the difference.
He is a big one too...for a wyvern.
I haven't had a chance to fully go over that model, but the head is almost 3" long - and when I dry fit the hand/wings on the body it ends up being about a foot from hand to hand with another 6 inches or so of wing that sticks out past that. The body and tail is snaked a good bit but is still well over 2 feet long when posed. Out straight, it would be pretty close to 3 feet of miniature dragon...wings would be about the same if you spread them out fully.
2014/12/06 01:56:56
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Your local might be getting some still. (Mine is still offering a preorder on it, for less than sticker price) So ask around.
I'm sure demand will determine if they release more runs.
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2014/12/06 04:11:05
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Bam, said the lady!
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2014/12/06 10:16:20
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
It does surprise me that for all the effort they put in to this model, the wings very much looked like separate pieces glued on. I don't even mean the gap on the left wing, even the right wing looks very much like a separate bit glued on rather than physically being a part of the dragon. Bit disappointing.
2014/12/09 04:33:50
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Clearly someone's paying for the kit. Sadly, I won't. I can
mitigate hundred dollar kits over time. But to save up for a
single kit? Too rich for my blood.
That might change in the future, but that means I'm not getting
this one now.
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2014/12/09 05:46:54
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
Admittedly only £50 cheaper, but might make the difference.
Does anyone know the size specifications for this? If it's not much bigger than the official Smaug model I probably won't bother, however it looks like it could be almost twice the size.
2014/12/09 07:42:21
Subject: Re:Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
I'm not surprised it sold out as it ticks a lot of boxes for "collectors". I think a fair few will end up on ebay, just hope that people have the good sense to realise that GW will be making more in the new year so don't get ripped off buying one much over RRP.
Its about time GW got its act into gear with this limited run stuff, they need to start tracking what sells well of these limited runs and do another pressing.
2014/12/09 10:06:07
Subject: Something is stirring under the mountain - Smaug is here! (New pics in first post)
It does surprise me that for all the effort they put in to this model, the wings very much looked like separate pieces glued on. I don't even mean the gap on the left wing, even the right wing looks very much like a separate bit glued on rather than physically being a part of the dragon. Bit disappointing.
Should see some of their 40k close up pics. Gaps,mould lines,exposed joints. Kind of reminds me of how I used to put models together as a kid lol
That's one of the nicest dragon kits I've seen! Nicer than a recent Weta effort I saw recently.
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