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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 06:19:59
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Or maybe they went with it because it is a weapon that does shock damage of some sort? It does look like an oversized prod.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 06:39:58
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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All the shock type weaponry certainly gives me hopes for an electropriest
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 07:48:02
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Frozen Ocean wrote:
Blah blah blah
Azreal13 wrote:Brand names frequently become genericised, this is one of them.
Blah blah blah
Honestly no, he's right, you should've stopped there. It's perfectly reasonable that in 38000 years time Taser becomes the generic term for a directed electrical charge weapon, just like how people call vacuums hoovers, etc. Plus there's the whole "the language they're speaking would be completely different to 20th century english, but because it's a game for a 20th century market it makes more sense to use 20th century english than it does to create a new language" angle. So generally stop going on about this, because it's pointless and it doesn't make you look clever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 07:56:13
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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I think that in Britain, where the average guy is very much less learned with regards to weaponry (even pepper spray is illegal for personal use), 'Taser' is just the word they used on the news to tell us that some Police have 'Tasers' now.
I would imagine the rules writers are similarly oblivious to the correct terminology to apply to a Taser made by Bacardi or Tesco or some other manufacturer. I sympathise with their plight because it must be getting difficult to name new weapons but I do agree that it does seem rather a passive and wimpy name for the grimdark future.
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"If you don't have Funzo, you're nothin'!"
"I'm cancelling you out of shame, like my subscription to white dwarf"
Never use a long word where a short one will do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:03:28
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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And then there's guys like me, who had no idea Taser was a "brand". I always thought it was the generic name for one of those machines that shock you so you just fall down spasming.
And it's not the first time I have seen a "Taser" as a shock type of weapon, I think.
In conclusion: MOAR MECHANICUS INFO. I need more pretty pictures!
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:05:20
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Davylove21 wrote:I think that in Britain, where the average guy is very much less learned with regards to weaponry (even pepper spray is illegal for personal use), 'Taser' is just the word they used on the news to tell us that some Police have 'Tasers' now.
I would imagine the rules writers are similarly oblivious to the correct terminology to apply to a Taser made by Bacardi or Tesco or some other manufacturer. I sympathise with their plight because it must be getting difficult to name new weapons but I do agree that it does seem rather a passive and wimpy name for the grimdark future.
Tasers in 40K probably make people explode violently into a cloud of blood lol. You don't get that in this current point in time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:08:38
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
If anywhere in 40k they used terms like "hoover", "coke", "sharpie", "kleenex", etc I would want to beat the writer over the head with a "maglite". 
I don't think there is a Black Library book out there that does not have shrapnel flying about during the fight scenes.
That said, as long as they are human (e.g. from earth), it still makes more sense than .. say .. Necrons with Gauss/Tesla-weapons, etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:18:02
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Tunneling Trygon
Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland
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Bull0 wrote: Frozen Ocean wrote:
Blah blah blah
Azreal13 wrote:Brand names frequently become genericised, this is one of them.
Blah blah blah
Honestly no, he's right, you should've stopped there. It's perfectly reasonable that in 38000 years time Taser becomes the generic term for a directed electrical charge weapon, just like how people call vacuums hoovers, etc. Plus there's the whole "the language they're speaking would be completely different to 20th century english, but because it's a game for a 20th century market it makes more sense to use 20th century english than it does to create a new language" angle. So generally stop going on about this, because it's pointless and it doesn't make you look clever.
So giving my opinion, which is that it doesn't fit, means I'm trying to look clever? Wonderful logic. Weird how this is something people take really personally. Oh, sorry, I shouldn't have said that - it's an opinion about something, so it could only be an attempt to show off how amazingly clever, beautiful and strong I am!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:21:35
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Dakka Veteran
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AdMech has it's tentacles everywhere..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:25:04
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Wonderwolf wrote:AllSeeingSkink wrote:
If anywhere in 40k they used terms like "hoover", "coke", "sharpie", "kleenex", etc I would want to beat the writer over the head with a "maglite". 
I don't think there is a Black Library book out there that does not have shrapnel flying about during the fight scenes.
That said, as long as they are human (e.g. from earth), it still makes more sense than .. say .. Necrons with Gauss/Tesla-weapons, etc...
And they don't make sense because...? Gauss/Tesla are just names that the Imperium would've given the Necron weapons. Not like someone asked a Necron what their guns were called and that's what they'd named them.
I can't belive there's like 3 pages of people complaining because they named them 'Taser' weapons. Really?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:32:22
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ImAGeek wrote:
And they don't make sense because...? Gauss/Tesla are just names that the Imperium would've given the Necron weapons. Not like someone asked a Necron what their guns were called and that's what they'd named them.
It's what the omniscient narrator named them. There're no indications of an "imperial perspective-narrator". They are still called Gauss/Tesla/etc.. in stories about ... say ... Eldar vs. Necrons, with no Imperial guy about. Just like Eldar/Dark Eldar weapons still have their names in the Eldar/Dark Eldar novels, where there's no human involved. Etc...
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It's been a favourite of sinister Empires since ... a long, long time ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:39:17
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Wonderwolf wrote: ImAGeek wrote:
And they don't make sense because...? Gauss/Tesla are just names that the Imperium would've given the Necron weapons. Not like someone asked a Necron what their guns were called and that's what they'd named them.
It's what the omniscient narrator named them. There're no indications of an "imperial perspective-narrator". They are still called Gauss/Tesla/etc.. in stories about ... say ... Eldar vs. Necrons, with no Imperial guy about. Just like Eldar/Dark Eldar weapons still have their names in the Eldar/Dark Eldar novels, where there's no human involved. Etc...
Whatever. It's still not like the Necrons named them Gauss or Tesla. I don't see how it doesn't make sense just because they're necron. Tau guns aren't actually called Pulse Carbines, that's just what the omniscient narrator called them. Same with Splinter Rifles. Fleshborer Hives. Shuriken Guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:40:11
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ImAGeek wrote:
Whatever. It's still not like the Necrons named them Gauss or Tesla. I don't see how it doesn't make sense just because they're necron. Tau guns aren't actually called Pulse Carbines, that's just what the omniscient narrator called them. Same with Splinter Rifles. Fleshborer Hives. Shuriken Guns.
Well, than maybe the AdMech doesn't call them Taser-weapons in Martian binary cant either, nor would they be named that in high or low gothic, fenrisian, chogoran, nostraman, whathaveyou...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:44:04
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Wonderwolf wrote: ImAGeek wrote:
Whatever. It's still not like the Necrons named them Gauss or Tesla. I don't see how it doesn't make sense just because they're necron. Tau guns aren't actually called Pulse Carbines, that's just what the omniscient narrator called them. Same with Splinter Rifles. Fleshborer Hives. Shuriken Guns.
Well, than maybe the AdMech doesn't call them Taser-weapons in Martian binary cant either, nor would they be named that in high or low gothic, fenrisian, chogoran, nostraman, whathaveyou...
Exactly...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 08:48:39
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Frozen Ocean wrote: Bull0 wrote: Frozen Ocean wrote:
Blah blah blah
Azreal13 wrote:Brand names frequently become genericised, this is one of them.
Blah blah blah
Honestly no, he's right, you should've stopped there. It's perfectly reasonable that in 38000 years time Taser becomes the generic term for a directed electrical charge weapon, just like how people call vacuums hoovers, etc. Plus there's the whole "the language they're speaking would be completely different to 20th century english, but because it's a game for a 20th century market it makes more sense to use 20th century english than it does to create a new language" angle. So generally stop going on about this, because it's pointless and it doesn't make you look clever.
So giving my opinion, which is that it doesn't fit, means I'm trying to look clever? Wonderful logic. Weird how this is something people take really personally. Oh, sorry, I shouldn't have said that - it's an opinion about something, so it could only be an attempt to show off how amazingly clever, beautiful and strong I am!
Your opinion on something that has almost nothing to do with news and rumour discussion and everything to do with how much cleverer a wordsmith you are than geedub? Remind me which one of us is taking things personally again real quick Automatically Appended Next Post:
I can't belive there's like 3 pages of people complaining because they named them 'Taser' weapons. Really?
I know, right? Who wants to hear that. This isn't dictionary corner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:06:41
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Fresh-Faced New User
Germany
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here we go
there are some new picz around us
And Yes there is even a pic with Onager Dunecrawler where you can see some weapon system... rumors say you can use Eradication Beamer, Broad Spectrum Data-Tether, Enamatus Force Field but there are even option for Twin Linked Heavy Phosphor Blaster, Neutron Laser/ Cognis Heavy Stubber and Icarus Array
the news can be found here and the hole gallery here
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:14:58
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Stubborn White Lion
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It looks like they come on a huge round base too, any other models on bases like that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:17:54
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Mantle wrote:It looks like they come on a huge round base too, any other models on bases like that?
Erm, not in 40k I don't think. All ovals. It doesn't really need a base though, it looks like it would stand fine ala Defiler and the Necron one (Tomb Stalker? Or is that the centipede).
Wasn't the rumour that it was almost Knight sized? I'm not sold on it yet, need to see proper pics I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:18:15
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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It looks quite functional with those feet.
Jes Goodwin must have been heavily involved with this release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:19:43
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Fresh-Faced New User
Germany
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i can see on the picture that Onager Dunecrawler is useing a big round base
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:21:39
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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The Tyrannocyte (Tyranid droppod) comes on a 100mm round base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:31:08
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Oh goodness. I think these are my next project for sure after my Minotaurs are done. Automatically Appended Next Post: Lamech wrote:here we go
there are some new picz around us
And Yes there is even a pic with Onager Dunecrawler where you can see some weapon system... rumors say you can use Eradication Beamer, Broad Spectrum Data-Tether, Enamatus Force Field but there are even option for Twin Linked Heavy Phosphor Blaster, Neutron Laser/ Cognis Heavy Stubber and Icarus Array
the news can be found here and the hole gallery here
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Thanks, I really like the look of that Dune Crawler
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:46:06
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Mantle wrote:It looks like they come on a huge round base too, any other models on bases like that? That actually seems pretty sensible since Defilers & Soul Grinders would also benefit greatly from these bases as well. Does anyone actually base them come to think of it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 09:53:11
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Does it only have four legs?
Kind of a weaponised, mobilized Eagle Lander.
I'm not sold on the walkers (too costly) but, depending on what the crawler looks like in the flesh, the piggy bank may have reason to tremble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:03:34
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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The naming scandal is hilarious.
I'd rather have simple, evocative, instantly-descriptive names than 'Farquuua'rkk Emitters' or 'Kkkrr'appp Rifles' or somesuch apostrophied, nonsense sci-fi naming with too many K's.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:32:03
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Leaping Khawarij
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Well hate to agree with people but yeah looks like we won't get a HQ , I'm not sure I've seen an army shot where there wasn't some sort of Command figure.
The most disappointing part of this release. But I guess GW had to mess it up somehow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:33:56
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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crawler definatly looks like a relitive of the defiler. makes one wonder if GW'll give us a varient with a battle canon
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:41:51
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Fresh-Faced New User
Germany
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BrianDavion wrote:crawler definatly looks like a relitive of the defiler. makes one wonder if GW'll give us a varient with a battle canon if you look at the picture of the Onager Dunecrawler, on the left side is a second Onager Dunecrawler with a huge canon...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:45:27
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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I keep looking at the release and wondering...
where are the transports?
The vanguard skittari cry out for something to get them closer so they can use their short range carbines. Transports are needed in malestrom missions. Transports are needed to protect these really squishy T3 dudes.
You'd think they'd at least get to take Chimeras and rhinos or something. I mean they work for the guys who frick'in build them.
And no, I don't think they will get transports when the full book is released. The leaked rules don't contain mention of a transport, unlike the Harli's last time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/01 10:58:54
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k p77/78 new pics
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Goresaw wrote:I keep looking at the release and wondering...
where are the transports?
The vanguard skittari cry out for something to get them closer so they can use their short range carbines. Transports are needed in malestrom missions. Transports are needed to protect these really squishy T3 dudes.
You'd think they'd at least get to take Chimeras and rhinos or something. I mean they work for the guys who frick'in build them.
And no, I don't think they will get transports when the full book is released. The leaked rules don't contain mention of a transport, unlike the Harli's last time.
One of the walker things is rumoured to be a transport.
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