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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:04:08
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Theres a few for me in the Ork codex, not least of which is Zogwort being written out (still hope they supplement him), but one thing i have been wondering...
Why can't my weirdboy ride a warbike?
Every other HQ can, even painboys can do their doktorin' while riding and jinking... so why not a weirdboy? Its not like its overpowered... Eldar can get whole councils of 12 psykers on jetbikes in a single CAD, orks would be lucky to fit a single weirdboy into most lists.
Would be fun to have in a warbike squad. All im saying.
Any obvious things you wish you could do? Stuff thats within reason, i mean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:08:22
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Why can't tacticals buy a second CCW?
or take 2 special weapons instead of heavy and special?
Why can't CSM get a 40k DP/DreadClaw as a DT for all infantry?
Why don't CSM get legion tactics?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:10:26
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Why can't my Medusas be barrage with 120'' range again :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:35:38
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Because fluff-wise, they tend to lose control of their physical functions while they're in the throes of expelling psychic energy. They used to be accompanied by 'minders' whose job was to keep them pointed in the right direction, hold them up where necessary, and when they started to flag to guide them into denser groups of boys to increase their WAAAGH! energy absorbtion.
I'd like to see heavy weapon options opened up on vehicles across the board. There shouldn't be any reason a Predator can't have, say, sponson-mounted autocannons. Which weapons can be put on a vehicle and which are purely man-portable seems to be just completely arbitrary. It was originally limited by the nature of the fairly basic kits, but there's not really any need for it any more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:45:57
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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The dual Special weapons really bothers me. No, I don't want a Plasma Gun and a Missile Launcher, I want two Plasma Guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 05:50:59
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I always found it a bit odd that marines need to choose a sword or a bolter, not both. I mean, in novels (I'm thinking of horus heresy specifically) everyone always carried a bolter at the start of the fight, then as the enemy closed in they'd draw their sword and pistol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 06:13:21
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Poisonous Kroot Headhunter
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kingbobbito wrote:
I always found it a bit odd that marines need to choose a sword or a bolter, not both. I mean, in novels (I'm thinking of horus heresy specifically) everyone always carried a bolter at the start of the fight, then as the enemy closed in they'd draw their sword and pistol.
The weird thing is in 30k they can buy a second CCW, so in 10000 Space Marines have devolved and forgotten how to pick up a second CCW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 06:32:57
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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PastelAvenger wrote: kingbobbito wrote:
I always found it a bit odd that marines need to choose a sword or a bolter, not both. I mean, in novels (I'm thinking of horus heresy specifically) everyone always carried a bolter at the start of the fight, then as the enemy closed in they'd draw their sword and pistol.
The weird thing is in 30k they can buy a second CCW, so in 10000 Space Marines have devolved and forgotten how to pick up a second CCW.
Bolters and Bolt Pistols have become rare, so you get one or the other
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 07:11:02
Subject: Re:Options that should be there but arent...
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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I want a Deffkopta character.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 07:19:42
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Niiru wrote:Why can't my weirdboy ride a warbike?
Every other HQ can, even painboys can do their doktorin' while riding and jinking... so why not a weirdboy? Its not like its overpowered... Eldar can get whole councils of 12 psykers on jetbikes in a single CAD, orks would be lucky to fit a single weirdboy into most lists.
Weirdboyz (excluding warpheadz) don't actually enjoy war and require Minders to keep them in the battlefield. If you gave a wierdboy a bike he'd just drive of!
This does open up the opportunity for a new unit, though. An attack bike style model where one minder drives the bike and the wierdboy is strapped into the sidecar!
There are a few chaos things I'd like to see; more access to upgrade options for HQ other than Lords and Sorcerors (such as being able to replace a dark apostle's bolt pistol with another power weapon or even kitting him out in terminator armour or giving him a mount). I understand why these options aren't available; the Lord and Sorceror are meant to be the catch all characters that can be heavily customised whereas the warpsmiths and dark apostles are more niche. I'd also like to have marked HQs and terminators to be able to get cult abilities/equipment.
Finally, I think all space marines should come with a close combat weapon; why do they forget how to use a combat knife once they graduate from 10th company?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 08:59:24
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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jreilly89 wrote: PastelAvenger wrote: kingbobbito wrote:
I always found it a bit odd that marines need to choose a sword or a bolter, not both. I mean, in novels (I'm thinking of horus heresy specifically) everyone always carried a bolter at the start of the fight, then as the enemy closed in they'd draw their sword and pistol.
The weird thing is in 30k they can buy a second CCW, so in 10000 Space Marines have devolved and forgotten how to pick up a second CCW.
Bolters and Bolt Pistols have become rare, so you get one or the other 
Except tacticals already have both. They just need a freaking knife now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 09:05:21
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Why can't the tactical Terminator Sergeant take ANY WARGEAR OPTIONS AT ALL?
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Innocentia Nihil Probat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 09:09:15
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Why can't a Herald of Nurgle take a Plague Drone as a mount?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 09:57:00
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Irked Necron Immortal
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I bought an old chaos marine book a while ago, just to see what they used to be like. Oh look, 2+ daemonic armor as an upgrade and on special characters. Why was this axed??????????
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 10:26:44
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why don't CSM have vastly better equipment compared to normal space marines.
Their tech should be better because they took their stuff during the dark age of technology (when the tech was better than now). Did they just stash all those things away in favor of inferior tech?
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You don't have to be happy when you lose, just don't make winning the condition of your happiness. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 11:24:46
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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DaPino wrote:Why don't CSM have vastly better equipment compared to normal space marines.
Their tech should be better because they took their stuff during the dark age of technology (when the tech was better than now). Did they just stash all those things away in favor of inferior tech?
No, most of them basically got screwed up and/or twisted by Ruinous Powers. And we already know what sorts of diddely they do.
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Innocentia Nihil Probat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 12:16:21
Subject: Re:Options that should be there but arent...
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Why can none of my DE HQs take a Skyboard or Jetbike?
Why can't my Archon take an AP2 weapon? Can he not just requisition an Incubi Klaive?
Why can't any of my HQs take a Venom Blade - even the Haemonculus. I guess the master of poisons forgot how to poison his weapons.
Haemonculus and Wrack special weapons are... weird. Why can my Haemonculus not take an Ossefactor? Same goes for my Acothyst. But then, why can they take Hexrifles and my special-weapon Wrack can't? Is the Hexrifle not special enough?
Why does the Djin Blade have to still exist?
Why isn't my Commissar Lord allowed to buy the Aquilla? Why isn't he allowed to execute the person who said he wasn't allowed to buy it, and then just requisition it anyway?
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 12:29:54
Subject: Re:Options that should be there but arent...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Something I just noticed whilst prodding at the Tyranid Codex to see if an army consisting entirely of medium sized beasts was viable:
Tyranid Prime can join and buff Warriors or Shrikes, but can't buy a wings option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 12:37:58
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Yeah, lack of wing options for Prime is a shame.
I find it particularly disheartening because I found some wings that would be perfect for him.
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 12:59:39
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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IMHO, this is hands down the most glaring missing option: Inquisitors cannot get a forcefields of any kind. Any lowly priest has a rosarius, every IG commander has a refractor field, but the most powerful people in the Imperium, get nothing. This is mind bogglingly stupid; they can requisition entire regiments or battle fleets, yet a simple force field is too much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 13:00:56
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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why cant my CSM vehicles be dedicated to chaos gods?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 13:40:29
Subject: Re:Options that should be there but arent...
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Why can't vehicles Overwatch? Its bizarre watching infantry charge vehicles with heavy flamers and the like that can only sit there and not respond?
We have been trying it and its quite fun ..............usual restrictions apply so you can't overwatch with blast weapons
IMHO, this is hands down the most glaring missing option: Inquisitors cannot get a forcefields of any kind. Any lowly priest has a rosarius, every IG commander has a refractor field, but the most powerful people in the Imperium, get nothing. This is mind bogglingly stupid; they can requisition entire regiments or battle fleets, yet a simple force field is too much.
True , very true - needs fixing - so again that's what we allow  Useful thread for us to add to our House Rules............tnx
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 13:42:25
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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"Why can't tacticals buy a second CCW?"
Because SW MUST be the special snowflakes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 13:43:48
Subject: Re:Options that should be there but arent...
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Killer Klaivex
The dark behind the eyes.
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Mr Morden wrote:Why can't vehicles Overwatch? Its bizarre watching infantry charge vehicles with heavy flamers and the like that can only sit there and not respond?
Why can't vehicles - especially fast vehicles - just move away from units charging them?
Are they trying to save on space-petrol?
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blood reaper wrote:I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.
the_scotsman wrote:Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"
Argive wrote:GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.
Andilus Greatsword wrote:
"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"
Akiasura wrote:I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.
insaniak wrote:
You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.
Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 14:15:15
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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Why can't my dreadnoughts take a psycannon and incinerator?...Forced to use inferior assault cannon and heavy flamer?
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:17:32
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Wing Commander
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Imperial Guard sergeants can use bolters, laspistols and CCWs, plasma pistols, etc, but not a normal lasgun.
Unless you're the Death Korps of Krieg. They learned that whole funky lasgun business.
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Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:28:21
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Why can't Warpsmiths and Dark Apostles take Jump Packs or Bikes? I mean I know they have no models to represent them but I've checked and Chaplains and Librarians no longer have models on Bikes and the JP Chaplain is the only one left.
Also why is there no longer an option for a Sorcerer Lord or Chapter Master Librarian. All I'm asking for is a 3 wound psyker model with an extra attack and retain the Sorcerer, Librarian unit entry and add a Chaos Lieutenant.
Ok I just want Chaos 3.5 back...
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 16:03:15
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Gargantuan Grotesque With Gnarskin
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Tigramans wrote:DaPino wrote:Why don't CSM have vastly better equipment compared to normal space marines.
Their tech should be better because they took their stuff during the dark age of technology (when the tech was better than now). Did they just stash all those things away in favor of inferior tech?
No, most of them basically got screwed up and/or twisted by Ruinous Powers. And we already know what sorts of diddely they do.
There's also the presence of recent converts bringing modern tech
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 16:43:36
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
The Village Hidden in Bureaucracy
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Xenomancers wrote:Why can't my dreadnoughts take a psycannon and incinerator?...Forced to use inferior assault cannon and heavy flamer?
Because the Emperor can only produce so much "metabolic by-product" for any given period of time.
Which basically means that you're using Emperor poop for ammo. That's why.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 21:37:54
Subject: Options that should be there but arent...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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gun attachments like scopes, grenade launchers, etc.
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