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It makes sense, he's horribly wounded, why couldn't they just rebuild the Golden Throne into a Dreadnought Sarcophagus. I'm sensing a BS10 WS10 profile...

I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

The space marines put into dreadnoughts are treated reverently and the sarcophagi themselves are relics. I would be one to think that if this was plausible, they would give Emps a fancier dreadnought.

The In- Character explanation for this is that the Astronomican needs to be powered and you can't fit that tech into a dreadnought.

All the cables and stuff on the throne go places, I guess. Making a mobile golden throne is like trying to make a mobile particle accelerator. I think its just too big.

Now, making the Golden Throne into an Emperor Titan.....

Just chuck a text to voice modulator on him and call it a day.

I'm not sure the Emperor/Golden Throne could keep that webway portal closed if they weren't sitting right on top of it.

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Uh, he's not exactly a dead corpse. Without the Emperor the Imperium would collapse.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astronomican

The Golden Throne is a Dreadnought.

 EngulfedObject wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Uh, he's not exactly a dead corpse. Without the Emperor the Imperium would collapse.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astronomican

There are theories that the Emperor is actually dead but the echo of his psychic powers after his death are what keep the astronomicon open, or that the 10,000 psykers being sacrificed are what's causing the astronomicon to exist without the emperor at all.


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Its worth noting that the Emperor built the golden throne, replicating it inside a dreadnought in his dying hours would be impossible since he himself was incapacitated.

Because he was needed to maintain the psychic barriers of the webway that Magnus collapsed, so that Terra wouldn't have to face a daemonic surge.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 EngulfedObject wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Uh, he's not exactly a dead corpse. Without the Emperor the Imperium would collapse.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astronomican

There are theories that the Emperor is actually dead but the echo of his psychic powers after his death are what keep the astronomicon open, or that the 10,000 psykers being sacrificed are what's causing the astronomicon to exist without the emperor at all.


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Its worth noting that the Emperor built the golden throne, replicating it inside a dreadnought in his dying hours would be impossible since he himself was incapacitated.

There is old fluff that states that his soul was removed from his body, so in that sense he truly is dead. However he had Dorn place his body on the Golden Throne so that he could continue to use his body as a sort of conduit for his power in the material realm.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 EngulfedObject wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Uh, he's not exactly a dead corpse. Without the Emperor the Imperium would collapse.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astronomican

There are theories that the Emperor is actually dead but the echo of his psychic powers after his death are what keep the astronomicon open, or that the 10,000 psykers being sacrificed are what's causing the astronomicon to exist without the emperor at all.


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Its worth noting that the Emperor built the golden throne, replicating it inside a dreadnought in his dying hours would be impossible since he himself was incapacitated.

Actually, he didn't build the Golden Throne. They dug it up out of the desert on Terra. What it originally was, or where it comes from, no one knows.

 changerofways wrote:
All the cables and stuff on the throne go places, I guess. Making a mobile golden throne is like trying to make a mobile particle accelerator. I think its just too big.

Now, making the Golden Throne into an Emperor Titan.....

YES YES! More of this!

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 EngulfedObject wrote:

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I think they feel like it would be an insult to touch such a holy relic and turn it into a robot.


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They need to just bury him already. What is going to happen is someone will notice the throne he is sitting on wasnt plugged in this whole time, and realize they have been worshiping a dead corpse. When god gives you lemons, you find a new god.

Uh, he's not exactly a dead corpse. Without the Emperor the Imperium would collapse.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Astronomican

There are theories that the Emperor is actually dead but the echo of his psychic powers after his death are what keep the astronomicon open, or that the 10,000 psykers being sacrificed are what's causing the astronomicon to exist without the emperor at all.


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Its worth noting that the Emperor built the golden throne, replicating it inside a dreadnought in his dying hours would be impossible since he himself was incapacitated.

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

 dusara217 wrote:

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

The whole "if we think it works/exists, it does" thing only applies to Orks because of the Waaagh!. Humanity can't just will things into existence by their beliefs. Warp manifestations are the result of turbulent and uncontrollable forces directly resulting from the Warp signature or "soul" given off by every human being. Humanity can't just will a god into existence because they believe he exists. At least, not as far as we know.

 Darth Bob wrote:

 dusara217 wrote:

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

The whole "if we think it works/exists, it does" thing only applies to Orks because of the Waaagh!. Humanity can't just will things into existence by their beliefs. Warp manifestations are the result of turbulent and uncontrollable forces directly resulting from the Warp signature or "soul" given off by every human being. Humanity can't just will a god into existence because they believe he exists. At least, not as far as we know.

it only works for Orks on technology. with the warp and warp entities it's proably got some degree of truth to it. the warp is POWERED by emotions, it's powered by ideas.

 Darth Bob wrote:

 dusara217 wrote:

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

The whole "if we think it works/exists, it does" thing only applies to Orks because of the Waaagh!. Humanity can't just will things into existence by their beliefs. Warp manifestations are the result of turbulent and uncontrollable forces directly resulting from the Warp signature or "soul" given off by every human being. Humanity can't just will a god into existence because they believe he exists. At least, not as far as we know.

Orks can make the Emperor come back. They woukd than proceed to loot him:

He could be a new Knight titan at the very least, I say

 Pyeatt wrote:
He could be a new Knight titan at the very least, I say

No, they couldn't.
Or they could had (and propably would had) put him in one, if the webway in the basement of the Imperial Palace wasn't breached by Magnus.

Now the Emperor is needed at the throne to ward off the daemons trying to spill to Terra through the compromised Webway portal, with Custodes killing any overspill.

The Emperor's dreadnought is the Imperium

 changerofways wrote:
All the cables and stuff on the throne go places, I guess. Making a mobile golden throne is like trying to make a mobile particle accelerator. I think its just too big.

"We have the TOOLS, we have the TALENT!"

http://www.edfx.com/images/Page282.jpg

He is injured beyond just normal, corporeal physical damage.

 Darth Bob wrote:

 dusara217 wrote:

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

The whole "if we think it works/exists, it does" thing only applies to Orks because of the Waaagh!. Humanity can't just will things into existence by their beliefs.

Seems to work out okay for the Sisters of Battle. They worship the god who isn't a god and refused to be worshipped as one, and yet come out the other end with magical D&D Cleric Powers simply by faithing hard enough.

He only refused that because he was on a "lie to them until they make the problem go away" kick though.

Also dreadnought systems take a hevey toll

As time goes on the need longer in stasis, harder to wake and ones like byorn are very rare. His is also very rare design.

Somebody needs to stay and operate the lighthouse. And the last time they tried putting another guy on the job, he died after just one day of it.

He's just too indispensable in his current job to consider a career change.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Darth Bob wrote:

 dusara217 wrote:

Whether the Emperor is dead or not matters little, as this is universe where simply believing in something hard enough will cause it to become real (see: Grork and Mork). Over the millenia, the IDEA that is the God-Emperor would metamorphosize into a true God of Humanity that struggles to keep the forces of Chaos at bay.

The whole "if we think it works/exists, it does" thing only applies to Orks because of the Waaagh!. Humanity can't just will things into existence by their beliefs. Warp manifestations are the result of turbulent and uncontrollable forces directly resulting from the Warp signature or "soul" given off by every human being. Humanity can't just will a god into existence because they believe he exists. At least, not as far as we know.

it only works for Orks on technology. with the warp and warp entities it's proably got some degree of truth to it. the warp is POWERED by emotions, it's powered by ideas.

You kinda just proved yourself wrong. The Warp is powered by emotions and ideas, which are what become developed into Gods. The only special thing the Orks got goin' for 'em with the Warp is that their energies transmit better into the Warp. The fact of the matter is, after ten millenia of trillions if not quadrillions of human beings worshiping the idea of the God-Emperor, eventually some form of him would form. This entity is what causes those random miracles and saints you find throughout Imperial History.

Plus, Legion of the Damned. Did the Orks wish them into existence? It seems to me that the only logical way that the Legion of the Damned could exist and randomly appear in battles all across the galaxy is if they came from the Warp and had some kind of Warp entity protecting them from the predations of the Chaos Gods and/or Daemons.

If the Big E got slapped in a pocket mech, he'd be able to actually resume his plans. Dreds can speak, and could probably have attachments with the sort of digits one needs to use fine motor skills. Even though his Imperium wasn't much better, he'd be really mad to see how the Council was running stuff, and the Council probably knows it. On the throne, the Emperor can be controlled a lot easier.

So I'd probably say its because the Council of Terra realized things are actually pretty sweet for them without Emps around except in a token capacity to cement their claim to power. Also, nobody really understands how the Throne works. What if they pulled the plug to move the Emperor and couldn't turn the thing back on?

Because someone had to manage the astronomican.

They know how a dreadnought shell wortks, however they do not have a clue how the goldren throne truely works, the device at core was found, its tech was built by emperor and only he knows it properly.

That wire they disconnect could be a light or the main power supply.