The Political Junkie™ Thread - USA Edition

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**Tannhauser42**

Well, he is one of those Tea Party people, and since they do draw inspiration from those who did go to war with Britain 200+ years ago, maybe?

**Frazzled**

He's not going to bomb Britain or anything is he?

Well now that you mentioned it...

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
Well, he is one of those Tea Party people, and since they do draw inspiration from those who did go to war with Britain 200+ years ago, maybe?

I don't know where you got that false information from about a war, but as I type this, I'm looking at my old school text book on history, and it says on the 4th July 1776, Great Britain, in its generosity, granted independence to the colonies. Rebels, led by George Washington, refused to accept independence

**whembly**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Ok, American dakka members, what's the lowdown on Ted Cruz, and should I be worried that's he running for president? He's not going to bomb Britain or anything is he?

He ain't winning. He's big on shrinking the gubmint and is a major hawk foreign policy wise.

But, he won't get the social-conservative wing.

He'll at least give Jeb Bush a hard time.

**Co'tor Shas**

He's a nutjob. I wouldn't support him even if I agreed with his political positions completely.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

I've just caught sight of Ted Cruz on the news and all he did was say Guns, Freedom, Obama Bad and Ronald Reagan. That got him a lot of cheering. Are those the four magic phrases in Republican politics?

If the answer to that is yes, I'm putting forward my interest for the Republican nomination

**Co'tor Shas**

Hey, change That to Obama and your set.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

Co'tor Shas wrote:
Hey, change That to Obama and your set.

Let's put that to the test.

Hey Whembley, Frazz. Guns, Obama Bad, Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, Obama Bad, cut tax...will you vote for me as Republican nomination?

**Frazzled**

We have a winner.

**whembly**

Nah... it's missing queso and t-bone in every doggie bowl.

Do dice.

**d-usa**

Maybe he will spend less time screwing things up in the senate while he is running, so there is that.

**squidhills**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

Let's put that to the test.

Hey Whembley, Frazz. Guns, Obama Bad, Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, Obama Bad, cut tax...will you vote for me as Republican nomination?

You'll need to show off your long-form birth certificate, first. Just to make sure you weren't secretly born in Kenya.

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

In all honesty, I feel sorry for Americans, because I've had a look at most of the candidates, both democrat and republican, and I'm thinking I wouldn't want any of them as president.

What a choice...

**Frazzled**

Really? Why?
Successful governors. Two who have immigrant parents. One who makes Nixon look like a girly man(Clinton). One who could physically eat Nixon (looking at you Christie!). Come on, this election is going to be fun!

**Blood Hawk**

Oh yea I already can see the debate between Clinton and Christie. Clinton spends the whole time fumbling her response to her latest "scandal" while Christie yells at the moderator for the audacity of asking him a question.

But all seriousness the issue I already have with 2016 is not so much the candidates but the news coverage of it so far. I may just tune the news out next year when the election gets in full swing, I mean they have been talking about 2016 for what 3 years now?

**Do_I_Not_Like_That**

To be fair, I can't really criticise the quality of potential presidential candidates, because in the UK we'll be electing a new prime minister in a few weeks time, and I'd be reluctant to let Cameron, Clegg, or Miliband, clean my toilet, never mind run the UK.

**Bullockist**

Frazzled wrote:
Really? Why?
One who could physically eat Nixon (looking at you Christie!). Come on, this election is going to be fun!

Would Nixon be wearing a blue dress at the time?

**Ouze**

Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Ok, American dakka members, what's the lowdown on Ted Cruz, and should I be worried that's he running for president?

No. I think it likely you could literally not find a single person on this forum regardless of political inclination that honestly believes that Ted Cruz will win the Republican nomination, let alone the general election.

**Laemos**

He has same audience as gov walker but people like gov walker more.

**Blood Hawk**

Ouze wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Ok, American dakka members, what's the lowdown on Ted Cruz, and should I be worried that's he running for president?

No. I think it likely you could literally not find a single person on this forum regardless of political inclination that honestly believes that Ted Cruz will win the Republican nomination, let alone the general election.

Win? Hell no. Move the goal posts of the conversation during the primary at the debates and whatnot? Probably.

**Jihadin**

Ouze wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Ok, American dakka members, what's the lowdown on Ted Cruz, and should I be worried that's he running for president?

No. I think it likely you could literally not find a single person on this forum regardless of political inclination that honestly believes that Ted Cruz will win the Republican nomination, let alone the general election.

I agree whole 110% but gawd forbid if the Left attacks his qualifications as an American to run for POTUS. Why I think its a "trap" for Democrats. Illegal Aliens are going to be like one of the top three issue that's going to be brought up.

Hhhhhmmmmm
I predict top three issues be
ISIS (America Security which includes the borders and process of Illegal Aliens to legal status residents; US Military)
Economy (job creations and whatnot)
.................
almost said "Debt clock"
...........
No to ACA because its in place and might as well STREAMLINE IT

USA as strong leader on the world stage

drawing a blank on a third one

**whembly**

Heh...
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/23/politics/house-letter-obama-iran/

Washington (CNN)A veto-proof, bipartisan majority of House lawmakers have signed an open letter to President Barack Obama warning him that any nuclear deal with Iran will effectively require congressional approval for implementation.

A group of bipartisan senators have penned a bill mandating that any deal be reviewed and approved by Congress, but the House letter notes that lawmakers have another way to halt an agreement — by refusing to roll back sanctions.

"Should an agreement with Iran be reached, permanent sanctions relief from congressionally-mandated sanctions would require new legislation. In reviewing such an agreement, Congress must be convinced that its terms foreclose any pathway to a bomb, and only then will Congress be able to consider permanent sanctions relief," they write.

The letter, which was signed by 367 members of the House and released Monday by the House Foreign Affairs Committee, follows a similar one, issued to Iran's leaders and signed by 47 Republican senators, warning that any deal with Iran could be rolled back by a future president.

That letter sparked fierce criticism from Democrats, who said it was inappropriate meddling in delicate diplomatic talks and meant to undermine negotiations, and even some Republicans expressed reservations over the tactic.

The House letter lays out lawmakers' concerns in more diplomatic terms, hitting on the potential time restraints as a key sticking point for a final deal. The emerging deal would lift some restrictions on Iran's nuclear program in a decade, which critics say could allow the country to resume its pursuit of a nuclear bomb at that point.

"A final comprehensive nuclear agreement must constrain Iran's nuclear infrastructure so that Iran has no pathway to a bomb, and that agreement must be long-lasting," the lawmakers write.

"Any inspection and verification regime must allow for short notice access to suspect locations, and verifiable constraints on Iran's nuclear program must last for decades."

Traitors... all of 'em!

For those keeping scores at home, that's 414 of the 535 members of Congress opposing the president’s approach to nuclear negotiations with Iran.

Think the President will listen?

Spoiler:

**Dreadclaw69**

whembly wrote:
Think the President will listen?

Spoiler:

Nah.

Absolutely. I believe his speech writers have prepared the following statement to be released to the press;
"To those of you who did not sign the letter, I hear you"

**Jihadin**

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
whembly wrote:
Think the President will listen?

Spoiler:

Nah.

Absolutely. I believe his speech writers have prepared the following statement to be released to the press;
"To those of you who did not sign the letter, I hear you"

Hello to everyone in the United Nation. I bring to you this deal I have manage to achieve with Iran concerning their Nuclear Program................

**Gordon Shumway**

Honestly, I think if a lot of these candidates didn't have a crap ton of baggage, they could be good leaders. Jen is qualified and sensible, Hilary has the experience of knowing what being a president Is all about and is still willing to run, rand is sort of goofy but seems to know his stuff, Christy would probably be good as a palette cleanser and get stuff done. The problem is us. We demand that they appeal to the basic instinct of the far spectrum of the respective political party, and that does no one any good

**Jihadin**

If Colin Powell announces he run he would get my vote

**Ouze**

Jihadin wrote:
I agree whole 110% but gawd forbid if the Left attacks his qualifications as an American to run for POTUS.

Well, I'm not a political expert, but it doesn't speak well to his campaign preparation skills that he didn't acquire http://www.Tedcruz.com for one.

**Jihadin**

Ouze wrote:
Jihadin wrote:
I agree whole 110% but gawd forbid if the Left attacks his qualifications as an American to run for POTUS.

Well, I'm not a political expert, but it doesn't speak well to his campaign preparation skills that he didn't acquire http://www.Tedcruz.com for one.

Tells you the age range of him and his staff.
Even I do not know where to go to start a domain.........
Guildportal does not count
Also Facebook does not count

**Ouze**

Jihadin wrote:
If Colin Powell announces he run he would get my vote

I can see the campaign posters now!

i kid, i kid

**Frazzled**

Ouze wrote:
Jihadin wrote:
If Colin Powell announces he run he would get my vote

I can see the campaign posters now!

i kid, i kid

I want a poster of Stormin Norman Schwarzkopf chomping on a cigar while holding an M1 turret in his hands-blasting away at T-72's.
"When there's trouble in Iraq, Vote for THE BEAR!"