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Every person has just as much right to express their concern over the scale as someone has the right to say they don't care about the scale.

This is the same issue that people whinge on about everything everywhere on the internet...that they're tired of seeing someone else bag on something because they've already seen that argument a billion times.

Yet, if you just focus on discussing the things you like, then it doesn't matter that other people are expressing their concerns. Just let them say their peace and discuss the things you want to and everything is good.

Honestly, the only reason why discussion like that drags everything else down is because people *want* to engage and argue about whether or not scale matters. If the people that don't care about scale just ignore the other sides' opinions and discuss other parts of the game, then there are no issues.

 Vertrucio wrote:

What you want, and what you get are two different things. And it's fine for you to want it. But every single damn thread posters like you throw a hissy fit in at the mention of Armada, it's the same tired hissy fit that I bet even you've made fun of others for doing the same for some other geekdom.

Nobody here is having a 'hissy fit'.

I mentioned i didn't like the scale direction they took with this, and that spawned some discussion. You seem to be attributing a level of angst to that that simply doesn't exist.

You guys are arguing about scale in a game where optimal firing range is shorter than a model's base.

I don't think the scaling is as off as people think. If you compare the the size of the counters and cards between the pictures of the VSD and ISD, the ISD base is about 60% larger(I'm estimating 2.5 inches to 4 inches roughly). Which fits closely into the 900 vs 1600 meter difference of the two ships.

Easily within the margin of error when it comes to the inconsistent scaling of movie special effects.

The ISD appears considerably larger than the other ships. The photos are not to the same scale. Look at the size of the cards and dial in the photos.

I wonder if the Rogues and Villains picture is giving us a clue as to what might be coming up in the future of X-Wing.

I thought the same. I see Hound's Tooth and Punishing One. Not sure what ship is between the HWK-290 and Outrider, however.

I insist that anyone who complains about scale can show their working on how 10 Space Marines can fit into a Rhino

Awesome! They announced the next wave to a game that hasn't released yet! Wahooo!

I was hoping the ISD would be the Armada equivalent of the Corvette/Raider in X wing. It doesn't look to be the case. I guess that means Executor will one day adorn the top of my display case instead, which is no bad thing.

And I can go on happily ignoring Armada's existence until then.

Apparently, the unidentified ship a Havoc Starfighter (bomber). It's the right shape.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Havoc_(starfighter)

Yikes that's prequels territory.

 Manchu wrote:
Yikes that's prequels territory.

I'm worried about that too... I was hoping they would go no further back than the creation of the Empire.

Tamwulf wrote:Awesome! They announced the next wave to a game that hasn't released yet! Wahooo!

It's not entirely their fault. Labor disputes on the west coast has made a mess of their release schedules. The box game should have been out already. It should be shipping to retailers next week finally.

Sgt_Scruffy wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Yikes that's prequels territory.

I'm worried about that too... I was hoping they would go no further back than the creation of the Empire.

The Y-Wing, Z-95, and YT-1300 are all pre-empire designs.

Doesn't matter, they figured prominently in the original trilogy/Galactic Civil War.

The Havoc is also a decent looking space fighter, nothing amazing or unique. So why not use it?

Some folks would say the same about the N-1 Starfighter (and have said it, regarding X-Wing).

Why would I play this when I can play b5?

Why would you post ITT when you could post in a B5 thread?

https://twitter.com/thedicetower/status/578251491518992384

It's hard to tell exactly, but to me, this is looking as big as if not bigger than the Decimator. Their saying on the FFG forums that it's $49.99.

I actually wouldn't mind the N1, or Jedi Starfighter showing up in X-Wing. However, I think it's more the stigma of the prequels that are holding it back. There might also be some other licensing issues.

Likewise, a B5 attack wing game would probably go over pretty well as a limited release. But that's beyond the scope of this thread.

I would love if they did a separatists, and clone/jedi lists for the prequels! Use exact same rules as xwing and if you happen to play against a current faction then its a happy coincidence! I cant see them expanding xwing much further as it is. What other factions could they possibly do?

X-Wing doesn't necessarily need more ships but it does need more ways to use the ships. Sadly, FFG seems committed to selling plastic with every purchase. Otherwise, a campaign book for X-Wing would be awesome. An alternative to deathmatch (for example, Armada's objective system) would also be good for X-Wing.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Why would I play this when I can play b5?

I would suspect that if you want to play a Star Wars game, this might be a better option than B5...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well that escalated quickly. And that's a Home One cruiser. Interesting.

Still, the scale thing kinda kills it for me, as does the announcement of the new 40K space ship/planet conquering board game.

what announcement ?

 CaulynDarr wrote:
https://twitter.com/thedicetower/status/578251491518992384

Sigh. And once again FFG goes with stupid EU numbers over film evidence* and we get a ridiculously tiny Home One instead of the proper length (about twice the length of a star destroyer). I know a game like this has scale limits, but they could have at least made it star destroyer size so that it doesn't look so weird when the ships are next to each other on the table.

*The a-wing being the most obvious example.

I bet we will see a third and larger Mon Cal ship eventually.

 Manchu wrote:
I bet we will see a third and larger Mon Cal ship eventually.

Maybe, but I don't really care about some random EU design, I want the ones from the movies and it's disappointing that they once again ignored movie evidence in favor of random EU numbers.

IIRC each Mon Cal ship is unique so you can expect something oblong and bumpy.

EU numbers?