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 bbb wrote:
Really looking forward to pics of the booth at Salute!

Good call! Someone get us some live pics.

 Phyrekzhogos wrote:
This is exciting to watch! Sadly, I'm waiting on a paycheck before I can pledge =( Stoopid job.

So I'm sorta surprised though about the modeling terrain sprue from the other day. I know it's set up as a stretch goal thingy according to the KS page, but would that have been a good low end pay range item for people who wanted to wait on other future armies, or weren't interested in the main game? Or is a stretch goal something added in for all levels if they hit it? I don't know how that works, I've never KSed before.

Yes, the terrain sprue gets added to the boxed game when that stretch goal gets hit

Re: Pace of funding compared to CMON properties, it's worth looking at the first day of CMON's first 3 projects, I think.

Zombicide, $4,461 and 51 backers on Day 1. Ended at $781,472 and 5257 backers.
Sedition Wars, $32,728 and 230 backers on Day 1. Ended at $951,129 and 4277 backers.
Relic Knights, $46,940 and 272 backers on Day 1. Ended at $909,537 and 3459 backers.

It's also interesting how the average $ per backer went up in each of those campaigns, but the total number of backers dropped, as CMON began to master the ways of the add-on

I expect MEdge to fund by the end of today, and then have a steady trickle throughout the campaign (punctuated with the reveals of some of the things lego is holding out on us with, like an adult angel and the hunter, assuming they're done!!). But the focus is really on getting the boxed game out, and then offering more options to buy individual units and the like at retail. For a game to really get traction, it needs a strong retail release, so focusing this campaign on the boxed set makes sense. I hope that the value gets enticing enough by the end that people who just want larger armies feel it's worth it to get two of the boxed sets. That's where I'm at right now, as I think it will be but I understand that for most it will make sense to pledge for a single set and see where the value ends up before deciding if any more would be worth getting up front.

 malfred wrote:
If I had 5k I could troll the entire maelstrom verse :(

Start a kickstarter to raise the $5k to troll MEdge!

It's interesting but the pieces don't feel like anything special.. it feels very mass infantry to me. For multipart plastics that don't really create anything that gets me excited I can't back this for $90. The setting seems like it might be cool but I can't shake the feeling that the whole thing feels like it's missing a strong narrative. It feels like things that are just put together so that they can make a semi-symmetrical game.
I think that's a slippery slope too.. it pushes wargames/miniatures towards the same trends we see with music.. over-produced stuff that is designed to sell records instead of make great music. I don't mean this to bash Dakka or this project.. if I had loads of cash laying around I'd back it in a second but after Deadzone and Sedition Wars I've learned to be more cautious and observant with this type of project.

t's interesting but the pieces don't feel like anything special.. it feels very mass infantry to me. For multipart plastics that don't really create anything that gets me excited I can't back this for $90. The setting seems like it might be cool but I can't shake the feeling that the whole thing feels like it's missing a strong narrative. It feels like things that are just put together so that they can make a semi-symmetrical game.
I think that's a slippery slope too.. it pushes wargames/miniatures towards the same trends we see with music.. over-produced stuff that is designed to sell records instead of make great music. I don't mean this to bash Dakka or this project.. if I had loads of cash laying around I'd back it in a second but after Deadzone and Sedition Wars I've learned to be more cautious and observant with this type of project.

Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Regarding the setting we've tried to get across the "big canvas" picture, and give people an idea of the scope of the kind of conflicts that this setting can handle. Naturally that places the personal narrative a little on the backburner, but rest assured that the fiction we've written explores the effect of such a huge calamity at the personal level. Our first novels, Faith and Sacrifice, show how two characters from both sides of the Epirian/Karist divide, deal very differently with the coming apocalypse, and that might be more of the strong narrative you are looking for. You can download free samples of both from the Kindle store. Link to the first novel in my sig. below.

Pledged at the $90 level.

If the terrain gets funded the one option I would like is the ability to buy it as an add on as I would like to get a second sprue without having to buy a second boxed set...though if the rules look good I'll be picking up a second box set anywho.

medikant wrote:
Pledged at the $90 level.

If the terrain gets funded the one option I would like is the ability to buy it as an add on as I would like to get a second sprue without having to buy a second boxed set...though if the rules look good I'll be picking up a second box set anywho.

This is a great suggestion. I'm planning on pledging at the $90 level as well, and although I probably won't buy another boxed set, it would be nice to have the option of getting a second terrain sprue if we reach the stretch goal.

I'll be pledging at the $90 mark. I'm guessing there will be ample opportunities to pick up a couple of other things along the way (i.e. the terrain sprue).

I think what I'm most excited about is how quickly the turn-around on all of this is- it's only going to be a few months! I'm hoping what this Kickstarter may lack in all sorts of craziness in stretch goals it will make up for by not violating its original claims over the following year!

Looking forward to a nice, continuous, well thought-out campaign.

 SteveGaskell wrote:

t's interesting but the pieces don't feel like anything special.. it feels very mass infantry to me. For multipart plastics that don't really create anything that gets me excited I can't back this for $90. The setting seems like it might be cool but I can't shake the feeling that the whole thing feels like it's missing a strong narrative. It feels like things that are just put together so that they can make a semi-symmetrical game.
I think that's a slippery slope too.. it pushes wargames/miniatures towards the same trends we see with music.. over-produced stuff that is designed to sell records instead of make great music. I don't mean this to bash Dakka or this project.. if I had loads of cash laying around I'd back it in a second but after Deadzone and Sedition Wars I've learned to be more cautious and observant with this type of project.

Hey, thanks for sharing your thoughts! Regarding the setting we've tried to get across the "big canvas" picture, and give people an idea of the scope of the kind of conflicts that this setting can handle. Naturally that places the personal narrative a little on the backburner, but rest assured that the fiction we've written explores the effect of such a huge calamity at the personal level. Our first novels, Faith and Sacrifice, show how two characters from both sides of the Epirian/Karist divide, deal very differently with the coming apocalypse, and that might be more of the strong narrative you are looking for. You can download free samples of both from the Kindle store. Link to the first novel in my sig. below.

Cool, I have the 48h reminder on too. I'll have a read when I get a little more free time.
The other aspect of my concern was the symmetrical feel. Side A brings guys with assault rifles and drones so side B brings the same. Not particularly exciting at face value. Same with the nature of the sprues. They look very much like rank and file dudesmen. They look good as RnF but perhaps they could stand some more personalization or whatever. If you already have the sprues (which it kinda seems that way), then you probably can't do anything about that but in almost every other skirmish game out there, the guys have a bit more individual character.

I'll look over the KS page again too but is there anywhere we can get a feel for the game mechanics? I mentioned Deadzone earlier and it's largest disappointment for me was the game play (and the restic but whatever). I hope to see this succeed though and I will likely pledge even if just to show a bit of support, you guys rock!

It's kind of interesting seeing the decentralized nature of the company. The Kickstarter page lists the location as Los Angels, CA (I'm guessing yakface's home area), the Kickstarter page for Spiral Arm Studios USA lists the location as Wilmington, DE (I'm guessing that's where they're legally incorporated) and the privacy policy lists an address in the UK for contact info (guessing that's due to legoburner).

I'm excited about the project, but slightly worried about there being no central location where they team is located.

Also, will the MEdge webpage be updated so the various page URLs aren't gibberish?

Getting Started: http://www.maelstromsedge.com/31/jgmvfslisqvagvjv/
Rules: http://www.maelstromsedge.com/35/betrsoqduhvnadjo/
Community: http://www.maelstromsedge.com/36/iaonynnxpaeiyhab/

centralised teams don't necessarily make things go faster (just ask Raging Heroes!)...

more sensibly since they've been running like this for 2-3 years I'm sure they have worked out how to get the best out of everybody involved at a distance

Cool, I have the 48h reminder on too. I'll have a read when I get a little more free time.
The other aspect of my concern was the symmetrical feel. Side A brings guys with assault rifles and drones so side B brings the same. Not particularly exciting at face value. Same with the nature of the sprues. They look very much like rank and file dudesmen. They look good as RnF but perhaps they could stand some more personalization or whatever. If you already have the sprues (which it kinda seems that way), then you probably can't do anything about that but in almost every other skirmish game out there, the guys have a bit more individual character.

I'll look over the KS page again too but is there anywhere we can get a feel for the game mechanics? I mentioned Deadzone earlier and it's largest disappointment for me was the game play (and the restic but whatever). I hope to see this succeed though and I will likely pledge even if just to show a bit of support, you guys rock!

By symmetrical feel do you mean the two factions, the Epirians and the Karists, have a symmetrical feel for you? If that's the case I can assure you they definitely have their own distinct identities, and that feeling only grows as you get to know more about their modes of operation, the way they interact with their "charges" (minnows and drones), and, most importantly, the more specialized units that are coming down the pike later. e.g. shadow walkers!

Best place for a good overview of the game mechanics is in the interview yakface had with the D6 crew: http://www.thed6generation.com//d6g-ep-165-maelstroms-edge-preview-star-wars-armada-detailed-review

Thanks for the support!

If you want to see them centralized (and are in the UK) talk to them at Salute - yakface flew out for it

Legoburner frequently attends conventions in the US (he was not at AdeptiCon due to prepping for this launch, but was at AdeptiCon and GenCon the previous year, and I think a few others). I think it also works for them since they basically are working on different parts of the project - yakface the rules, legoburner the project management and models.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
centralised teams don't necessarily make things go faster (just ask Raging Heroes!)...

more sensibly since they've been running like this for 2-3 years I'm sure they have worked out how to get the best out of everybody involved at a distance

I just hope things run smoothly once there is physical product that has to move from one location to another. These guys are no slouches, so I'm hoping they'll do well.

As an almost exclusively 15mm historicals gamer I have no interest in a 28mm sci-fi game.

But Dakka is one of my favourite places on the internet, and I'm going to back the crap out of this project based entirely on that alone. Hell, I'm going to take the plunge and get the novels too!


That and, well, the contractor models look cool as feth, which certainly helps.


Looks like I'm going to need to brush up on my 28mm painting skills... It's been a while since I've worked in that scale...

Now backed. Very excited guys regardless of end product. It's obvious your putting effort and time into something you craft and im excited to try it out!
Cheers

Seems like there's folks accociated with the project answering questions on here while questions on the KS comments are going ignored...

Tibbsy wrote:
As an almost exclusively 15mm historicals gamer I have no interest in a 28mm sci-fi game.

But Dakka is one of my favourite places on the internet, and I'm going to back the crap out of this project based entirely on that alone. Hell, I'm going to take the plunge and get the novels too!


That and, well, the contractor models look cool as feth, which certainly helps.


Looks like I'm going to need to brush up on my 28mm painting skills... It's been a while since I've worked in that scale...

I feel the same way. With the exception of Battletech, I haven't played a sci-fi miniatures game in years and have stuck primarily with historicals. But my interest is piqued, and I love Dakka.

I think the main folks behind the project are busy prepping for Salute, so aren't answering either place in a continuous manner - the fiction writers have been chiming in here, though.

I know there should be an update coming today and hopefully some more answers to comments (as the creator account was on answering comments this morning, but hasn't been in the middle of the day US-time here).

Edit: That's awesome Tibbsy, Hyglar's Hellraiser, and Hordini!

Read this in the comments.

'what is the possibility of getting just add ons?'
- The logistical overhead for this would mean much higher shipping costs and much more complex quality control, meaning delays and expenses for everyone. We'll continually revisit this as an option throughout the kickstarter but there is no intention to offer individual unit purchases at this time I'm afraid. We've tried to ensure the sweet spot pledge is such a good value, that it would make more sense to go for multiple boxes of them instead.

I'll be curious to see if this extends to terrain sprues. I'd love to buy some terrain sprues (assuming they're reasonable priced) but I won't be bidding for stuff I don't want/need just to get some.

I can't pledge for much at the moment but I've pledged what I can. I really want to see this succeed.

EDIT: I was pretty indifferent about the suppression markers until I saw them next to that Karist unit in the video. Those look awesome!

This thread certainly ballooned fast!

I am low on funds (plus a little disappointed that they're all male, but money is the main issue), so I can't really justify this. But I'm looking forward to seeing what people do with these. Could definitely see Karists as stormtroopers...

 Melissia wrote:
But I'm looking forward to seeing what people do with these.

I'm guessing they'll use them for MEdge.

 pretre wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
But I'm looking forward to seeing what people do with these.

I'm guessing they'll use them for MEdge.

I have no idea what that means

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
But I'm looking forward to seeing what people do with these.

I'm guessing they'll use them for MEdge.

I have no idea what that means

MEdge = Maelstrom's Edge. I.e. Maybe people will just use them for the game they come with.

Yeah but even within that, there's still paintjobs and conversions.

Yeah, I took that to mean "how people will convert / paint them". I'll be going for rusted out Epirians drones stranded on a planet cutoff by the Maelstrom... always wanted to do a rust themed army

 Eilif wrote:
I'll be curious to see if this extends to terrain sprues. I'd love to buy some terrain sprues (assuming they're reasonable priced) but I won't be bidding for stuff I don't want/need just to get some.

I'm hoping they do some sort of terrain add-on or pledge when they unlock. I suspect that will boost things, so possibly something to do in the lulls of the mid-campaign. At least that is what I'm hoping for.

 RiTides wrote:
Yeah, I took that to mean "how people will convert / paint them".

I did too until I saw the next sentence after it saying they would be good stormtroopers.

 RiTides wrote:
Yeah, I took that to mean "how people will convert / paint them". I'll be going for rusted out Epirians drones stranded on a planet cutoff by the Maelstrom... always wanted to do a rust themed army

Oooh, I can definitely see them as a rustbucket army.


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 pretre wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Yeah, I took that to mean "how people will convert / paint them".

I did too until I saw the next sentence after it saying they would be good stormtroopers.

Does that sentence offend you?

I don't care either way, but I might be most amused if it does