Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion

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**tneva82**

Ahtman wrote:
I tried to order some FW stuff while the Pound is weak, as I am an opportunist you see, but when I got the checkout it showed the proper conversion rate but still also said that it was more than it should be in American dollars.

50.45gbp

conversion is 1 Dollar to .73gbp

it says $68.85 instead of something like $37. I am afraid to tell it to continue.

Umm you divide the pound value with 0.73, not multiply.

FW would be REALLY cheap if you multiplied it

**Dysartes**

Aye, if the conversion is showing that that the dollar is worth 0/73 pounds, it means the pound has a greater value than the dollar, meaning youse needs more dollars to make the same number of pounds.

**Ahtman**

tneva82 wrote:
Umm you divide the pound value with 0.73, not multiply.

FW would be REALLY cheap if you multiplied it

I bet that is what I did as I used the keypad on the keyboard. I saw several posts (here and elsewhere) about it being the time to get it as the pound was weak after vote to leave the EU.

Spoiler:

**Mattlov**

Depending on their height I could use those Ursarax in Battletech pretty happily.

**CoteazRox**

Deleted, already answered (£ -> $$$).

**BrookM**

From todays news blog: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=1170421

DRONING ON…

It’s easy to forget that 10,000 years separate The Horus Heresy and the 41st Millennium of Warhammer 40,000, and that 10,000 years is quite a long time. Enough time for things to change considerably.

Forge World produce plenty of kits which show the heritage of units you’ll know from Warhammer 40,000 – like the early marks of Space Marine armour, and the fantastic Land Raider Armoured Proteus – or vehicles with a joint lineage to those that are well known in the armouries of the 41st Millennium – such as the Fire Raptor Gunship and Legion Glaive super heavy tank.

Flying in soon to support the Mechanicum Taghmata

This new Mechanicum unit has recently shown up in the studio, and it has a lot in common with the venerable Blight Drone that has seen service in Chaos armies for many years.

A Nurgle Blight Drone, brilliantly and disgustingly painted by Mark Bedford.

That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.
Posted by Chris Thomas

**Gamgee**

Give Tau more interesting drone types now? If I see another stupid disc drone variant I'm going to go crazy.

Edit
Also sucks for Chaos. Once again they had one cool unique thing. I like the way plague drones look and how they were unique to them. Until they got stolen it seems.

**BrookM**

Stolen?

This is what they were like before they went all chaos..

**ImAGeek**

Yeah, that's the origin of the Plague Drones before they were corrupted.

**CragHack**

These drones look awesome. Just looove all them small details, like the servo skull. Just imagine all the joy painting its eye lense...

**spiralingcadaver**

BrookM wrote:
Stolen?

This is what they were like before they went all chaos..

I assume he was talking about a retcon (unless this was already canon, just without a model)?

**Gamgee**

Oh if this is canon then whatever, but if it was retconed then it sucks. Can't the dark mechanicum just invent something for the CSM to use for once that the IoM doesn't just have a copy of?

**Kanluwen**

Gamgee wrote:
Oh if this is canon then whatever, but if it was retconed then it sucks. Can't the dark mechanicum just invent something for the CSM to use for once that the IoM doesn't just have a copy of?

Nothing has ever stated that the Plague Drones were "created" by the Dark Mechanicus.

Also, the Dark Mechanicus has created something for the CSM to use. The Decimator Engine, Maulerfiends, Forgefiends, Defilers...

**Gamgee**

Ok cool. I don't know know chaos lore very well. Then they should create more interesting things like the Plague Drones and Heldrakes which I enjoy the sight of.

Edit
Looks like the mechanicum version has more weaponry. Which sucks for chaos players once again.

**Charax**

I'm sure there's a perfectly logical reason for why when this giant drone thing got corrupted by Chaos it became a third of the size and lost most of its ranged firepower.

Or for why "nothing akin to the Blight Drones had ever been faced before by the Imperium" if the Mechanicus had been churning out something pretty damn akin to them ten thousand years earlier

We shall have to wait and see, but for now it certainly looks like a case of "Hey, chaos have something cool, let's retcon it so the Imperium has it too!"

**em_en_oh_pee**

Charax wrote:
I'm sure there's a perfectly logical reason for why when this giant drone thing got corrupted by Chaos it became a third of the size and lost most of its ranged firepower.

Or for why "nothing akin to the Blight Drones had ever been faced before by the Imperium" if the Mechanicus had been churning out something pretty damn akin to them ten thousand years earlier

We shall have to wait and see, but for now it certainly looks like a case of "Hey, chaos have something cool, let's retcon it so the Imperium has it too!"

It isn't about the Imperium having it too, it is about the origins of the Imperium and the tools of the Heresy. There may be a chance that Mars used them, but not after the STC pattern was taken by the Dark Mech forces and maybe it was shunned because of that or something. Jeez, it isn't a contest between who gets what. This is for the Horus Heresy., so I doubt it will ever get 40k rules. So the Blight Drones are still for Chaos.

And is the size confirmed? They look identical to me. Don't forget that prototypes are not indicative of size... just look at that new Knight. It has been seen in 3 sizes!

**MeanGreenStompa**

Gamgee wrote:
Also sucks for Chaos. Once again they had one cool unique thing. I like the way plague drones look and how they were unique to them. Until they got stolen it seems.

Gamgee wrote:Oh if this is canon then whatever, but if it was retconed then it sucks. Can't the dark mechanicum just invent something for the CSM to use for once that the IoM doesn't just have a copy of?

Gamgee wrote:Ok cool. I don't know know chaos lore very well. Then they should create more interesting things like the Plague Drones and Heldrakes which I enjoy the sight of.
Looks like the mechanicum version has more weaponry. Which sucks for chaos players once again.

Did you complain like this when the imperial titans got chaos versions? This is the same in reverse. Much Chaos tech and design comes from corrupted Imperium/Mech originators. We may see other units similarly receive this treatment, it isn't stealing from chaos anymore than chaos versions of imperial things are 'stealing' from that aesthetic.

And I find it very, very unlikely we'll be seeing loyalist versions of the chaos dinobot stuff. You can keep that...

Charax wrote:I'm sure there's a perfectly logical reason for why when this giant drone thing got corrupted by Chaos it became a third of the size and lost most of its ranged firepower.

Because blight drones aren't this drone thing but are a replication of much of it's technology and basic design, corrupted over the years by the Dark Mech? This is the ancestor of the blight drone, not the blight drone.

**ImAGeek**

Where are you even getting a size comparison from? They look the same and there's nothing in the photos to scale them.

**Mr_Rose**

Gamgee wrote:
Ok cool. I don't know know chaos lore very well. Then they should create more interesting things like the Plague Drones and Heldrakes which I enjoy the sight of.

Edit
Looks like the mechanicum version has more weaponry. Which sucks for chaos players once again.

Where'd you get that bit about more weapons? The maw-cannon thing on the drone has a bajillion profiles to match its numerous barrels. The 'base' unit has two.
Also, this is a Heresy-era Mechanicum unit; loyalist marines in 40k aren't getting them and there's a good chance 40k Adeptus Mechanicus might not either (design classified perdita maleficus or whatever).

**stormboy**

I think the AdMech will have access - they were shown with the previews for the next IA book, which includes a combine Admech/mecanicum force.

Some of the 30k stuff is going to seep into 40 this way (including the Red Scorpions gaining access to 30k vehicles).

**Ouze**

I love the pre-corrupted Blight Drone. It makes me want to paint the ones I have boxed up.

I wonder if at some point we'll see what became the Defiler, because I really wonder what exactly this started out as that didn't look totally heretical.

**Mr_Rose**

It's called the Onager Dunecrawler and we already have a model for it.

**Olgerth Istaarn**

Defilers used to be those onager admech shiznits, because Chaos does not invent anything, it just corrupts a unit (+3 skull masks, +4 screamey faces, +over9000 spikes), and imperium promptly forgets how to make it or field it.

God I hate the way this game has become, it's so effing stupid now, sometimes I wonder why I still follow it...

**Kanluwen**

Nope, Onagers are too small to be Defilers.

**GoatboyBeta**

Ouze wrote:
I wonder if at some point we'll see what became the Defiler, because I really wonder what exactly this started out as that didn't look totally heretical.

I think an argument could be made for the Onager Dunecrawler as an ancestor(or cousin) of the Defiler. The Leviathan and Decimator also seem to share an lineage to my eyes.

**Januine**

Chaos has stuff that were born of Chaos and the DM rather than just corrupted versions of Imp/AdM constructs - engines such as the defiler, heldrake maulerfiend et al where daemons were bound to machines constructed to hold them. Then there are all the woe engines of Heritor Asphodel such as the Stalk Tanks, The Spike and others

**casvalremdeikun**

Is that a grav-cannon nose gun I see?

**TiamatRoar**

Defilers are canonically a custom-built daemon engine, whose research was initiated by Abaddon for the first Black Crusade.

At MOST, they might take a few queues and design aspects from other machines before them, but that's as far as it's supposed to go.

Of course, GW could always forget or retcon things at their leisure.

**Uriels_Flame**

Can you get those Havoc launchers on their own?

**Mr_Rose**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
Is that a grav-cannon nose gun I see?

Looks more like an arc rifle to me, or maybe the heavy version. .