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When everyone is a monster race and you if avoid the "Jews in space" trope (or "Jews in Hystery" in this case) I think you get a little bit of flexibility.

Some more info has appeared.

The Deathless are a breakaway faction of Dark Elves who practice necromancy. They will have Elven zombies, 'Lihko' deamons who man support weapons and 'Khort' deamons who act as officers while they are led by undead Dark Elf Witches.

The Russian Dark Elves will be a separate KS. The second KS would also include minor races such as Hungarian Ogres, Nordic Trolls and whatever they decide to do with Romania (Vampires+?)

If the current KS does very well the trolls may be released as a 6th race.

The Italians are rats?

Very classy, I'm not touching this kickstarter with a 10 feet pole.

Would you rather to be an orc or a goblin? Or did you have your eye on being a cycloptic elf?

I wouldn't have minded any of those.

I consider rats being more offensive than any of the examples you listed, but maybe it's just myself..

What's wrong with rats?

Would you feel better if they were mice?

I think that there will eventually be 3 kickstarters. The current one which corresponds to the invasion of France and the Low Countries. The second one will Correspond to Barbarossa and the potential third one will deal with the pacific.

just a guess but it seems quite likely.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Would you feel better if they were mice?

Like the ones in Mice and Mystics?

Possibly, yeah, less negative connotations (in my opinion, obviously...)

Hrm Italian Ratmen doesn't sound fantastic to me either. I like the whole monstrous race idea (Dwarves and Gnomes could do with looking a tad more ferocious) but maybe a lesser used animalistic monster. Gnolls?

I presume the Elves are like the stories of old and are either hauntingly, maddeningly gorgeous but very wrong or look like vicious terrifying bastards?

I'm not aware of any stereotype that would be reinforced by casting Italians as rats... seems fine to me.

Considering that rat is used as a synonym for betrayer, and that Italy left the Axis for the Allies, well...

And in WW1 too. Must confess that's what I thought of originally.

Then again, it's just a fantasy race, it seems a touch sensitive to take offense.

I thought it would be the "Americans arriving late" that would have set off the witty back and forth

Hah, we ended up as Troglodytes and people take offence at being cast as ratmen. Truly, we live in the Age of Taking Offence.

Then again, it could have been worse. We could have been cast as centaurs. Now that would be offensive as hell.

Makes me wonder what the Dutch could be cast as.

Vorian wrote:
And in WW1 too. Must confess that's what I thought of originally.

Then again, it's just a fantasy race, it seems a touch sensitive to take offense.

I thought it would be the "Americans arriving late" that would have set off the witty back and forth

Well, since the companion phrase is usually "...and saving the day, and the World, again!" usually follows it, no, we're OK with it!

Oh no, it begins!

The Dutch should have been the Dwarves, ironic opportunity missed.

If I hadn't spent all my money on Darklands I'd be all over those White Russian Zombie/Fomor to join the British Orcs

as it is I'm crossing my fingers I can get the money for just the Orcs before the end

Doh...we Italians are rats? RATS?! Ok...fine... my pledge dropped to 1 pd.

I would have liked to get the orcs and dwarfs, but I rather let this one pass.

I suppose someone was going to end being Rats.

I wonder who would be OK with that...

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose someone was going to end being Rats.

I wonder who would be OK with that...

Maybe a special Africa campaign with actual Desert Rats and Desert Fox?

I'd have been happy enough,

 Alpharius wrote:
I suppose someone was going to end being Rats.

I wonder who would be OK with that...

In Flintloque Scots are rats, its not as if thats something that its appropriate to take personally.

Armand wrote:
Considering that rat is used as a synonym for betrayer, and that Italy left the Axis for the Allies, well...

Seems like the only people who would consider Italians rats in your example would be Axis supporters.


Are you one?


Rats conquered the world via ships and trading, much like the Italians. Be proud of the rat comparison, those are some hardy little creatures.

Indestructible, tenacious and with sharp pointy teeth what's not to like


oh and the snail cavalry have unlocked

Zond wrote:

I presume the Elves are like the stories of old and are either hauntingly, maddeningly gorgeous but very wrong or look like vicious terrifying bastards?

The only Elf concept art so far are of the undead variety. They will probably be 'generic' Elves.

Then again, it could have been worse. We could have been cast as centaurs. Now that would be offensive as hell.

Why centaurs are offensive?

Saluti

Anyone have the latest country/fantasy race breakdown?

 Alpharius wrote:
Anyone have the latest country/fantasy race breakdown?

Aside from the confirmed races there are:

Italians - Ratmen
Hungarians- Ogres
Scandinavians - Trolls (possibly different types from not Norway, Sweden and Finland but that's a little dubious)
USA - Elves
Soviets - Dark Elves
Japanese - 'Goblins'
Romania - Vampires plus some kind of slave race
Yugoslavia (as it was) - Gnolls

Apparently there will be Ghurka Halflings as well.....

And what are all the 'confirmed' nations/races?

(And thanks!)