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2015/12/28 16:58:49
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Celebrating military defeats is a peculiarly British thing, but there's a bigger problem looming on the horizon: how the feth do the Americans fit into Dunkirk evacuations?
This is Hollywood we're talking about and they're not going to let a minor detail of America not being in the war get in the way
My money's on Tom Cruise, as General Patton, riding to the rescue on the USS Lexington
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/12/28 17:11:45
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Nah, the British will be on the verge of defeat, then a flight of P-51 Mustangs will come in, bomb the hell out of the Germans and then drop a 22 mile wide US flag across the channel for the poor Brits to run across to FREEDOM!
A Sherman will then be catapulted from an aircraft carrier to land outside the Reichstag and blow up Hitler...
In all seriousness, though, this may be a very welcome film. Nolan is a quality director, and there has been a dearth of decent WW2 films in recent years.
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2015/12/28 17:20:15
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
It should be nice and depressing. Nolan loves bleak and vaguely depressing.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2015/12/28 17:21:29
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Las wrote: Who wants to bet the French army covering the withdrawal will receive zero screen time or mention?
Sadly, I fear you'll be proven right.
At the end of the day, though, Britain has to take some responsibility, but not all, for the fall of France.
The BEF was only 10 divisions, the French had, what, 60 divisions?
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Relapse wrote: Roosevelt will guide a fleet of lend lease ships with AA capabilities in to get the Brits out.
and they'll grab an enigma machine at the same time
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Frazzled wrote: It should be nice and depressing. Nolan loves bleak and vaguely depressing.
So you're in?
If the world needs anything, it's more British war films.
We made dozens in the 1960s and 70s, but then they dried up for some strange reason.
With Dunkirk, and Peter Jackson doing the Dambusters, the British war film is back. Yeahhhhh!!!!!!
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Paradigm wrote: Nah, the British will be on the verge of defeat, then a flight of P-51 Mustangs will come in, bomb the hell out of the Germans and then drop a 22 mile wide US flag across the channel for the poor Brits to run across to FREEDOM!
A Sherman will then be catapulted from an aircraft carrier to land outside the Reichstag and blow up Hitler...
In all seriousness, though, this may be a very welcome film. Nolan is a quality director, and there has been a dearth of decent WW2 films in recent years.
We need to find room for Jennifer Lawrence as well
The mustang was still in development...and waiting for British engines to make it the warplane it became
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2015/12/28 17:52:21
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Las wrote: Who wants to bet the French army covering the withdrawal will receive zero screen time or mention?
The French army, not the heroes Gotham deserves, but the heroes they need.
"Do you know where I got these scars?" Hitler "I know where you got these." Roosevelt.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2015/12/28 18:33:44
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Celebrating military defeats is a peculiarly British thing, but there's a bigger problem looming on the horizon: how the feth do the Americans fit into Dunkirk evacuations?
Here's one possibility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_L._Shirer Sound's like a promising movie. All those little boats heading bravely across the channel would make for a moving sight.
2015/12/28 18:51:16
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Celebrating military defeats is a peculiarly British thing, but there's a bigger problem looming on the horizon: how the feth do the Americans fit into Dunkirk evacuations?
Here's one possibility. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_L._Shirer Sound's like a promising movie. All those little boats heading bravely across the channel would make for a moving sight.
Stretching it a bit with Shirer, but knowing Hollywood, he'll probably pass secret battle plans on to the British via an ipad, having first ordered a Coca-Cola and a big mac
Agree with the boat bit.
Still getting this suspicion that a retired character, played by Nicolas Cage, will own a boat hire business as Dunkirk.
Las wrote: Who wants to bet the French army covering the withdrawal will receive zero screen time or mention?
The French army, not the heroes Gotham deserves, but the heroes they need.
"Do you know where I got these scars?" Hitler
"I know where you got these." Roosevelt.
Roosevelt operating from his titanium, nuclear fission powered wheelchair
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2015/12/28 19:13:29
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2015/12/28 19:19:31
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Breotan wrote: This movie needs Randy Quaid as a washed up tug boat captain. Then again every movie could use Randy Quaid as a washed up tug boat captain.
I rate Quaid as an actor - I'd have him in it any day of the week, and he could salvage a crashed Stuka, fly it into battle, and take out half the German army
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2015/12/28 19:54:35
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
The internal timbers show the place where German machine-gun bullets have been patched.
What history! A great little boat for weekending and crossing the Channel too.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's a great little Public Information film from WW2 about the Little Ships.
Of course we must not forget the contributions of the Royal Navy and Royal Airforce.
(When evacuating Crete and sustaining heavy losses, Admiral Cunningham said, "It takes the Navy three years to build a new ship … it will take 300 years to build a new tradition." and carried on to rescue as many Army as possible.)
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Cool. That looks like a cheried out version of the SS Minnow.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2015/12/28 20:45:44
Subject: Re:Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
I do love the old school, British public information films. Comedy gold, as they're unintentionally funny most of the time.
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2015/12/28 21:19:38
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Here's a serious thought. The movie, "The Alamo", finished up with the battle of San Jacinto, in which the Mexican army was crushed.
It could be entirely in the realm of probability this movie ends with the invasion of Normandy, giving us the American angle along with every other country that participated.
2015/12/28 22:24:20
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Relapse wrote: Here's a serious thought. The movie, "The Alamo", finished up with the battle of San Jacinto, in which the Mexican army was crushed.
It could be entirely in the realm of probability this movie ends with the invasion of Normandy, giving us the American angle along with every other country that participated.
This film is for British military only! Get your tanks off our lawn!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/12/28 22:40:54
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Frazzled wrote: It should be nice and depressing. Nolan loves bleak and vaguely depressing.
On the subject - there are many good books that tell the story - some first hand.
I wonder if they will show much from the French side of things - they lost lots of men, ships and equipment in the operation.
No US fighter pilots at that point so can't do a Pearl Harbour - well they can but......
On Nolan:
Well if anything like his other "efforts" it will be massively overlong, effects heavy and lacking actual characters or any real heart. Of course anyone who does not worship it will be accused of "not understanding it" cos............
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Kilkrazy wrote: There were several US citizens flying (illegally) with the RAF in 1940.
I thought the first US pilots flew just after the Dunkirk evacuation?
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Kilkrazy wrote: There were several US citizens flying (illegally) with the RAF in 1940.
I thought the first US pilots flew just after the Dunkirk evacuation?
The first Eagle Squadron was formed in September of 1940, Dunkirk was fought in June of 40'. There may still have been some Americans flying, but there weren't any distinct units of them at least.
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2015/12/29 17:26:53
Subject: Re:Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
I wish somebody would turn the book 'Winged Dagger' by Major Roy Farran into either a movie of a Band of Brothers style production, or perhaps Panzer Commander (Colonel Hans Von Luck). Both are really good and what is great is there is a incident in the desert which is mentioned in both books. You experience it from both sides.
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2015/12/29 17:31:15
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
There is generally a lot of cynicism from the UK and Europe when it comes to American portrayals of World War 2 events in the European theatre.
The implication being, that there is doubt that an American film maker or an American studio would finance / film a major WW2 film production without having Americans as the (most probably sole) heroes.
2015/12/30 01:01:05
Subject: Chris Nolan to direct new Dunkirk film, but where's the American angle?
Compel wrote:There is generally a lot of cynicism from the UK and Europe when it comes to American portrayals of World War 2 events in the European theatre.
motyak wrote:
Compel wrote: There is generally a lot of cynicism from the UK and Europe
And further afield...
So this is in some ways a not so cleverly disguised Troll Thread?!?
Thought for the day 
