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**Warhams-77**

Tzeentch birdmen sounds great

Hastings is adding what he has heard about GW working on the Greater Deamons

Originally Posted by Bloodmaster View Post
Sounds good. Birdmen ftw.

Btw. Hastings care to comment on the GD stuff?

Of course. I was reliably informed some time ago that CAD files for all of the plastic GD were finished. One of these has been released in the form of the BT, another then became the Glottkin (I was told this was originally going to be a GUO). So whilst the models for the remaining two have not yet been released or possibly even been cast, the CAD files for them are done, and have been for some time.

There are lots of things that do not get either released or even make it to the casting stage. For example there was a CAD file for a Orc "Chariot" of sorts, that saw one of the new style boars, pulling what was described as a large wooden wheelbarrow behind it, this was filled with loads of goblins with bows pointing in all directions, the same file also had extra wooden bits and some snotlings, where it was to be built with the wheelbarrow in front of the boar with the extra bits, forming what I can only assume would be an updated "pump wagon" of sorts. This file was never seen again, and I am not even aware of prototypes of it being made. But I was told by more than one of my reliable sources that the GDs were all done, in fact this was quite a long time ago, as IIRC I also reported that there were to be some RESIN (I guess finecrap) packs for the kits that would make them more specific named GDs.

I really like the idea of "beastmen" with something other than goat heads, back in the day I converted some with different animal heads (the cow head from the giant kit worked very well!) and it gave a much more chaotic feel to them. Hope these bird beastmen match the image I have in my head already.

Originally Posted by Chikout View Post
Thanks for the info Hastings. Maybe the loc has been redone and the old one scrapped. (possibly to include the resin stuff) That would make both you and Sad Panda correct.

BTW I was told the bird head of the new Archaon mount was "very similar" to the LOC head, so take from that what you will. It's difficult to say really because back when I was in the loop I was hearing about (and in some cases seeing) stuff about 2 years before release. Some eagle eyed viewers even spotted the high elf lord plastic kit assembled and in the background of my painting desk in one of my project logs about 8 months before it was released. It's the same as blood bowl, those rumours by myself and Harry were based in fact, BB update was coming, it got underway and then got canned (IIRC due to very very poor sales of dreadfleet), then it restarted, then it was canned again, now it's back. That has always been the problem with reporting rumours so far in advance (i.e. more than 1 year). When you get inside the 1 year mark the releases are largely set in stone, in fact I am only aware of 1 time a release did not happen, and that was for the dwarf lord clampack when the mold genuinely was damaged).

Some stuff I reported ages ago may see the light of day eventually, such as the plastic WE spellsinger, but it may not be in the form I originally reported it in.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?417295-Warhammer-Quest-Silver-Tower&p=7613635&viewfull=1#post7613635

**Fayric**

Lots of great bird watching here.
The "beastmen, techically birdmen" made me thing of PP griffons, conceptually.
https://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/circle-orboros/warbeasts/scarsfell-griffon

I pray for a Skeksies rip-of though.

**Sidstyler**

So they did indeed push Blood Bowl back because of Dreadfleet? That sucks.

**Haechi**

Birdmen. I'm in. Thanks Sad Panda.

Now I wanna ask how many Tzeentch models and how many different unit type of models are there in this box... I'm so excited!

**Warhams-77**

Hastings - Warseer

Originally Posted by Whirlwind
What I find interesting is that this sort of squashes the pervading theory that GW has an approx four year in advance plan and won't change it. That blood bowl has been canned and restarted several times implies that GW's releases are flexible within at least a 2 year timeframe.

The plan is and always has been AFAIK 2 years, I've never read anywhere about a solid four year plan for releases. Me & Harry reported back mutterings of BB, each time it restarted, with rumours though you are never totally on the pulse, for example I did not hear it had been canned the first time around until rumour came of the project being restarted. The releases aren't that flexible certainly inside of 2 years. What did surprise me was that Dreadfleets sales (or lack of) were taken as some sort of "stand alone games aren't selling" when BB is an entirely different beast with a huge following already! Dreadfleet actually only started out life as a pet project for one of the studio staff, it was not originally planned to be a item available for sale.

**coldgaming**

A box of characters from different factions is a great idea, I think. I'm in just for a plastic ogre character. It could really flesh out some of the small factions and give a bunch of lines an update at once. If I happen to have a nice plastic aelf character because I got this box, I'm more likely to get him some friends, etc.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Demon Penguins,

that's what Tzeench needs, something that everybody will underestimate until it's too late

**coldgaming**

Apologize if this isn't news or rumoury enough but thought it was good news on the GW/community interaction front. SCGT will have some 140 AoS players, only wish I could go:

Dan Heelan
‏@HeelanHammer
Ok so big #SCGT2016 news is. . Games Workshop are coming to cover the event! So bring your A game models,lets show what the community can do

**Mymearan**

Wow! That's amazing!

**motski**

New article about it on BOLS:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/warhammer-quest-silver-tower-minis-contents.html

6 Heroes included:

Stormcast Eternal
Ogor
Duardin
Aelf
2 others (unknown)
Chaos Opponents included:

12 Horrors
4 Screamers
2 Flamers
6 Cultists
1 Sorceror
1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch (boss)

**Chikout**

motski wrote:
New article about it on BOLS:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/warhammer-quest-silver-tower-minis-contents.html

6 Heroes included:

Stormcast Eternal
Ogor
Duardin
Aelf
2 others (unknown)
Chaos Opponents included:

12 Horrors
4 Screamers
2 Flamers
6 Cultists
1 Sorceror
1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch (boss)

None of the beastmen Sad Panda mentioned. Definitely false as usual from Bols.

**guru**

Sad Panda wrote:
Haechi wrote:
I really hope Tzeentch is going to be more than horrors and demons. I've never enjoyed that part and I'm hoping for bad ass warriors like Khorne Bloodbounds or Blightknights or I'll just pass.

False rumors about "all" the GDs being finished are oddly persistent.

While the LoC was finished only recently (and is not in this box), the design team did start off this larger project with some smaller AoS Beastmen minions (technically Birdmen, I suppose) of Tzeentch. Watch out for those.

seem similar to The Tzeech tower of Tchar'zanek & Raven Host from Warhammer online

**Haechi**

Well the cultists could be those Birdmen. But if the horrors are supposed to divided into more horrores, like Panda said, then I don't see how 12 of them will be enough.

**Atia**

motski wrote:
New article about it on BOLS:

6 Heroes included:

Stormcast Eternal
Ogor
Duardin
Aelf
2 others (unknown)
Chaos Opponents included:

12 Horrors
4 Screamers
2 Flamers
6 Cultists
1 Sorceror
1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch (boss)

lol xD

Now that is a good example for really bad clickbait.

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Haechi wrote:
Well the cultists could be those Birdmen. But if the horrors are supposed to divided into more horrores, like Panda said, then I don't see how 12 of them will be enough.

It's classic BoLS writing - take some stuff already said, and add some wishlisting to it. At the end something will be right - exactly the stuff they took from older rumours. Anyone remembers their "Imperial Knights" rumours after I posted up that we will get a Crusader and Warden? Suddenly they "got the information" about the EPIC knights return and volcano cannons on them

**Chikout**

Anything else you care to share that hasn't already been mentioned Atia? I think bols is aware that people are dying for info which is why their click bait nonsense gets the clicks.

**Binabik15**

It'd be a meagre haul of models, too. 32 plastic guys for 140-150€? Nah.

Still hoping for big Tzeentch warriors in the box myself, if the rumour mongers want to crush my hopes feel free to so before I get hyped for Tzeentch stuff (my least favourite chaos god so far).

**Sad Panda**

Retro chaos familiars would fit the theme nicely. For nostalgia's sake.

**Haechi**

Sad Panda I don't think you're allowed to wishlist anymore.. People would take those as premonitions hahaha

**coldgaming**

In addition to the SCGT thing, GW Facebook page posted:

Warhammer Age of Sigmar
20 mins ·
The South Coast Grand Tournament is one of the biggest Warhammer Age of Sigmar events held anywhere in the world.
It's this weekend, and if you're lucky enough to be in the area (Hampshire, UK), there are still a few tickets left.
This event has always been a showcase for some incredible armies. So we'll be reporting from it live: posting photos of the armies and games to this page.
Full details of the event can be found here:
www.heelanhammer.com/SCGT
We know this might be a little far for a lot of you to make the journey, but we hope you'll enjoy the coverage, and we'll keep you updated on any other big events we hear about.

**Chopxsticks**

Deathwatch Overkill has 50 models for $165, still pricey

**mdauben**

ceorron wrote:
This is a great image by GW if it is half as good as this then it will be awesome.

If they did a Lord of Change like that, I'd buy one even if I never bought anything else.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Any female warriors would look less like a playboy bunny and more like a MMA fighter,

Ever seen UFC fighter Ronda Rousey?

**GoatboyBeta**

mdauben wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Any female warriors would look less like a playboy bunny and more like a MMA fighter,

Ever seen UFC fighter Ronda Rousey?

Oh yes quite a lot of her

. But IMO the point still stands. Put her in a set of sculpted full body armour like the Stormcasts wear, and until she speaks or removes the helm you would be hard pressed to tell she was female(and that's before she has been through the magical version of the Space marine process).

**Stus67**

I assumed the Stormcast were just animated armor

**Clanan**

Stus67 wrote:
I assumed the Stormcast were just animated armor

In one or two of the concept art pieces, you can see eyes behind the Stormcast headpiece/mask. (Can't find it now, of course...)

**Red_Zeke**

Stus67 wrote:
I assumed the Stormcast were just animated armor

I can see why you'd think that, but the background makes it clear that there are (super) humans under that armor.

**shinros**

Red_Zeke wrote:
Stus67 wrote:
I assumed the Stormcast were just animated armor

I can see why you'd think that, but the background makes it clear that there are (super) humans under that armor.

Yeah lore wise they are equivalent of a chaos warrior in terms of strength. Yet they are not as strong and fast as a vampire.

**Haechi**

I thought they were animated armor too... which I kind of think would have been cool. Eldar's Wraith style.

**Baron Klatz**

Definitely are more human than space marines too, they show alot of fear and doubt in the novels.

The official AoS facebook has a nice close-up that shows the human eyes behind the helm.

**motski**

Baron Klatz wrote:
Definitely are more human than space marines too, they show alot of fear and doubt in the novels.

The official AoS facebook has a nice close-up that shows the human eyes behind the helm.

It's this image:

https://cdn3.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/930/343/large/alessandro-baldasseroni-stormcast.jpg?1443928469

**Haechi**

What do they leave behind when they're being summoned back to Azyr? Do the empty armors stay?