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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3737641/Farage-aide-held-money-laundering-claims-Son-glamour-model-dated-Prince-Charles-facing-years-jail-offering-services-dark-web.html



Farage aide held in US over money laundering claims: Son of glamour model who once dated Prince Charles facing years in jail after 'offering his services on the dark web'
George Cottrell was arrested and led away at Chicago's O'Hare airport
Cottrell was getting off a flight with former UKIP leader Nigel Farage
In custody awaiting trial on 21 charges including attempted extortion




probably just another lamestream media smear


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What an absolute tool....

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We've all heard of Teflon Tony Blair,

well you can add non-stick Nigel to that list.

Farage's ability to dodge the bullets of scandal never fails to impress me.

I doubt if it will dent his popularity and probably harden support for him, as it usually does...

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.. diplomats have that diplomatic immunity don't they right ?

So, say, if you'd been money laundering or misusing EU funds or the wrong things or paying off ones mistress then you couldn't be prosecuted.

Then there's those rumours about "late night" texts with polling results being sent to financial traders who then went against the market/popular opinion and made a small killing on the currency markets , but of course there'd be no truth in those at all.

Well I guess you could be stripped of the position -- but if it was awarded due to "popular acclaim" or somesuch that might he hard to do.

Then you'd have to be extradited of course ... sure the USA govt. would fully co-operate there too.


The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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 Silent Puffin? wrote:
Its almost as though the government have absolutely no idea about the internet and how it works. This kind of censorship can be easily avoided by anyone with access to google.


It doesn't need to be 100% proof for them to feel it worth it. As hard as it's to imagine most people AREN'T computer savy/interested enough to start bypassing those.

Yes I'm sure there's people in say China and North Korea that can bypass their blocks. But how many really do?

One thing I would be interested to know if it would be possible for goverment to determine roughly how many are bypassing or trying but not able to specifically identify well enough to press charges?

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tneva82 wrote:
As hard as it's to imagine most people AREN'T computer savy/interested enough to start bypassing those.


They will quickly learn if they can't get their porn

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I believe the Opera browser already has a built-in VPN. I predict Firefox and Chrome will be quickly doing the same thing.


 
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Okay guys, it's time to get serious.

The government still wants to cut off our access to kinky porn


They can take my porn from my cold. Dead. Hands.

...



Wait...feth. Did I say that out loud?


If you have cold dead hands then the porn isn't working so you might as well get rid of it.

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 Ketara wrote:

Sorry, but are you seriously trying to quote 'National debt as a percentage of GDP' as a way of judging the financial policy of the current government? Because as someone who mentions the complexity of statistics a lot, I'd be genuinely surprised you were actually trying to claim that as evidence for the subsequent judgements you're making on a subject as complex and manifold as fiscal policy. It's literally one of the less relevant financial measurements you could pick.


Not really no. It was more to do with that there were a lot of generic statements from the Tories that the overall debt is Labours fault when in reality The Tories have increased the debt jus as much as they did once you take out interest on the debt. There was a spike because of the global banking crash. The interest in paying that off alone probably costs us a 1% increase each year, but that doesn't account for the remaining 4% (on average). Labours expenditure was keeping to about a 2% increase per year so even after that overall Tories were spending still higher and has only got under control in the last couple of years and become more equivalent.

Whether either party were fiscally prudent is generally open to individuals sensibilities.

Has the Tories approach of reducing tax on companies whilst reducing benefits payments been prudent?
Was Labour's approach to tax environmentally harmful methods to the world whilst subsidising long term renewable energy (that could be used for 30 years plus) versus just using gas/coal long term fiscally prudent or short term not prudent?
Is the Tories over payment for untried Nuclear power stations funded from overseas prudent in the short term at the expense of the long term financial prudence (buy now, pay later)?
Is it prudent to favour the reasonably well paid over the poorly paid (it might be fiscally prudent now, but is it morally right? (this is the governments owns plot http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38089190)
Is it prudent that the older generation are made better off at the expense of the younger generation http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38090977
and so on.

The only point I was trying to make that, excluding the banking crash, both parties have pretty much increased debt by same amount overall over similar periods after you take into interest and likely pre-agreements.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V

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Somewhere in south-central England.

Cold dead hands is a popular sub-genre, actually.

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 Ketara wrote:
I believe the Opera browser already has a built-in VPN. I predict Firefox and Chrome will be quickly doing the same thing.


My understanding is that not all VPNs are equal. A number of countries have singed up to sharing such intel so if the VPN is hosted say in Canada then the Welsh Ambulance Service can still request to get information on whether you were accessing porn or not. IIRC the VPNs that you really need are those that operate through non-snooping agreement countries like Panama. Also the free VPN may only be for your browser and place significant throttles on your data speed.


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I'm not sure this person understands that leaving the EU does not mean that we will be going back to using imperial measurements!

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-supporter-82-removes-2000-hated-eu-road-signs-that-show-distance-in-metres-instead-of-miles-150228958.html

I wonder how long it takes until someone sues him for removing a road sign?




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I also hear that Nigel Farage's Ritz speech went something like this


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"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V

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Funnily enough, we actually spend more money servicing debt these days, than we do on defence. 48.8 billion pounds a year to 45.6 billion pounds.

Pensions and the NHS are the most major drain on government receipts, swallowing up about 300 billion a year. We're all living longer, which means higher pension drains, and greater healthcare requirements whilst we're still alive.

Ultimately, the truth is that we really should be paying far more in tax to sustain our current model and expectations of public services. But you don't see many politicians advocating that, because they like votes more.


 
   
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The question is the balance of taxation between various classes of private individuals and businesses.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

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 Ketara wrote:
Funnily enough, we actually spend more money servicing debt these days, than we do on defence. 48.8 billion pounds a year to 45.6 billion pounds.

Pensions and the NHS are the most major drain on government receipts, swallowing up about 300 billion a year. We're all living longer, which means higher pension drains, and greater healthcare requirements whilst we're still alive.

Ultimately, the truth is that we really should be paying far more in tax to sustain our current model and expectations of public services. But you don't see many politicians advocating that, because they like votes more.


Agreed. Pensions are (I think) the only state benefit that isn't effectively means tested and is handed out whether you have a no private pension or a £100k private pension. They really need to get a handle on this and have decent minimum income but for those that have some private pension it only acts as a top up to that minimum. But again there are a lot of votes in the oldy's so it's not likely to be an election winner.


"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V

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Not sure if this has been posted among the Brexit EU talk...

But the Investigatory Powers Bill was passed through parliament and is now waiting Royal Assent.This bill gives the government and security services the power to ask internet/mobile net companies all of your browsing history within the last year, even if your not suspected of any wrongdoing.

Such services include:
Spoiler:
Metropolitan police force
City of London police force
Police forces maintained under section 2 of the Police Act 1996
Police Service of Scotland
Police Service of Northern Ireland
British Transport Police
Ministry of Defence Police
Royal Navy Police
Royal Military Police
Royal Air Force Police
Security Service
Secret Intelligence Service
GCHQ
Ministry of Defence
Department of Health
Home Office
Ministry of Justice
National Crime Agency
HM Revenue & Customs
Department for Transport
Department for Work and Pensions
NHS trusts and foundation trusts in England that provide ambulance services
Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service
Competition and Markets Authority
Criminal Cases Review Commission
Department for Communities in Northern Ireland
Department for the Economy in Northern Ireland
Department of Justice in Northern Ireland
Financial Conduct Authority
Fire and rescue authorities under the Fire and Rescue Services Act 2004
Food Standards Agency
Food Standards Scotland
Gambling Commission
Gangmasters and Labour Abuse Authority
Health and Safety Executive
Independent Police Complaints Commissioner
Information Commissioner
NHS Business Services Authority
Northern Ireland Ambulance Service Health and Social Care Trust
Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service Board
Northern Ireland Health and Social Care Regional Business Services Organisation
Office of Communications
Office of the Police Ombudsman for Northern Ireland
Police Investigations and Review Commissioner
Scottish Ambulance Service Board
Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission
Serious Fraud Office
Welsh Ambulance Services National Health Service Trust


Truthfully I think it legalizes what they've already been doing, but it's still frightening to hear about.

EDIT: Looks like you already were xD but still.

Sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/19/extreme-surveillance-becomes-uk-law-with-barely-a-whimper
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/investigatory-powers-bill-act-snoopers-charter-browsing-history-what-does-it-mean-a7436251.html

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https://www.facebook.com/ogrimshaw/posts/10154496871585339

that's the march against terrorism in Edgware yesterday , didn't get a lot of coverage did it ?






hands up if you're surprised

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-38097382



Consett 'became porn and dating payment hub'

Hundreds of people in a former steel-making town became directors of companies involved in pornography, dating, diets and travel, a Reuters investigation has revealed.
Residents in Consett, County Durham, were paid to forward post that came to their address, but said they otherwise had no involvement in the companies.
One, John Mawson, said he "didn't really know" what his role involved.
Simon Dowson, who set up the legal firms, said everyone was informed.
Mr Dowson, 35, from Shotley Bridge formed the shell entities to provide a UK address, directors, company records and tax returns to meet UK requirements so overseas online businesses could trade in Europe.
'Money was tight'
These were businesses considered by credit card companies to be at high risk of refund requests.
The investigation by the Reuters news agency found at least 429 unconnected people in the town were paid £50 cash to become directors, with a further £150 a year for forwarding company mail and fees for extra paperwork.
Mr Mawson, 61, was recruited by a neighbour who had already signed up.
"All we were told was that we would just get letters sent and all we had to do was hand them on," he told BBC Newcastle.
"Money was rather tight. All we wanted was a bit of extra cash."

Another director, Andrew McBride, 46, said he did not realise what he had agreed to, but accepted he should have checked further.
Mr Dowson was paid between £2,500 and £3,000 per shell company, administering 1,200 at his peak.
Using unconnected individuals as directors prevented "cross contamination" if credit card companies withdrew services from one company, he said.
"It's a very simple operation. It's commonplace. It's just not commonplace here," he said.
Mr Dowson said the directors were given information about the companies, their role and any documents they had to sign.
"There was nobody ever kept in the dark," he said.

Mr Mawson only found out a few years ago that one of his directorships involved pornography sites and wanted "nothing more to do" with the arrangement.
Mr Dowson said the overseas companies' trade included travel, bingo and "vanilla" dating sites, not just adult entertainment.
He has been investigated by the Insolvency Service, part of what is now the government's Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, he said.
Some of the firms using his service have also been investigated, and some closed down, but there have been no criminal charges or sanctions brought against Mr Dowson or any of the directors.
He was told what he had been doing was "incorrect or maybe not best practice" but "not illegal in any way, shape or form", he said.
He has agreed to stop using untrained people as directors and said his company formation business would soon close.
The government declined Reuters' request for comment.



..hmm..


so they thought they were being paid £150 a year for..... what exactly ?

..mail forwarding ? .... really

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£150 doesn't sound like a lot, really.

However, if the government doen't want entire post-industirla blighted northern towns turning themselves into edge of the law dodging operations, perhaps the government should forcibly relocate everyone to London and let them join in the vibrant gig economy.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
£150 doesn't sound like a lot, really.

However, if the government doen't want entire post-industirla blighted northern towns turning themselves into edge of the law dodging operations, perhaps the government should forcibly relocate everyone to London and let them join in the vibrant gig economy.


The only really solution is to make London grow so big that it gains consciousness and decides to take over the world in a manner similar to Columbia.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
£150 doesn't sound like a lot, really.


Yeah, that's a little over £10 a month so sign some papers and forward mail. That's about what it costs from a commercial mail forwarding service.

For people who need money due to lack of jobs / recession, they presumably thought it was a fair deal and didn't look too far into the legalities.
   
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None of it was illegal, as it turns out.

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Sorry 'Leave' voters you have one more claim to defend against. Apparently you are bit smellier than Remain voters

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-vote-could-have-seen-remain-win-if-only-people-who-changed-underpants-daily-voted_uk_5837f680e4b0b60ceeaa160e

And UKIP supporters are even worse.

I am however concerned about the person that washed their underwear on average less than once every 10 times they wore them (I assume this can equate to days), ewww.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V

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Just reacting to all this doom and gloom about the budget.

As I've said many a time before, I have nothing, now they're saying I'll have half of nothing

Meh.

In many respects, the chickens are well and truly coming home to roost. Years of incompetent Labour and Tory governments have brought us to this point, and were we to stay in the EU, we'd still be struggling...

All this talk of a 'lost decade' is meaningless to people like me who have nothing to lose anyway...

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Frostgrave

There's always more to lose, unfortunately.

Especially in that "Just about managing" group.
   
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 Whirlwind wrote:
Sorry 'Leave' voters you have one more claim to defend against. Apparently you are bit smellier than Remain voters

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-vote-could-have-seen-remain-win-if-only-people-who-changed-underpants-daily-voted_uk_5837f680e4b0b60ceeaa160e

And UKIP supporters are even worse.

I am however concerned about the person that washed their underwear on average less than once every 10 times they wore them (I assume this can equate to days), ewww.


You know what they say: dirty pants, clean botty.

Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.

Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.

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"UK's net contribution to the EU will be lower next year because Brexit crashed value of the £ and lots of funding is paid back to UK in €."


... silver linings and all that eh ?


meanwhile




https://www.facebook.com/metpoliceuk/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf




An independent witness
Last month we launched what is thought to be the largest rollout of body-worn cameras by police anywhere in the world.
Today we are publishing a short video to illustrate how the cameras work and how they can recall a specific moment in time that can be difficult to recall in high pressure situations.
The film is designed to communicate the benefits of Body Worn Video (BWV) primarily for members of the public, to improve the transparency and accountability of policing. It is a fictitious scenario filmed entirely using BWV and shot from the point of view of two officers. The film aims to demonstrate that BWV can capture vital evidence and is a useful tool in establishing the truth after the event.
Over the coming months cameras will be issued to over 22,000 officers across all 32 boroughs in London. Officers in Lewisham are already seeing that the cameras can help bring about speedier justice for victims, but today they have been launched in three further boroughs; Westminster, Brent and Havering.




overall I approve.


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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Just reacting to all this doom and gloom about the budget.

As I've said many a time before, I have nothing, now they're saying I'll have half of nothing

Meh.

In many respects, the chickens are well and truly coming home to roost. Years of incompetent Labour and Tory governments have brought us to this point, and were we to stay in the EU, we'd still be struggling...

All this talk of a 'lost decade' is meaningless to people like me who have nothing to lose anyway...


You'd probably be surprised at how much you do have to lose. If inflation hits 4% (or higher maybe for food) then you'll have to make sacrifices somewhere.

That's less wargaming miniatures;
Slower internet access
Less pints down the pub
Less visits to the cinema
reduced mobile phone tariff
Less cans of coca-cola
and so on (replace with items of own choice)

The best thing you can do is take whatever income you have multiply it by 0.95 (that's a 5% decrease) and then work out what you will cut to meet the difference as that could be your relative 'salary' next year.

"Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. " - V

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Herzlos wrote:
There's always more to lose, unfortunately.

Especially in that "Just about managing" group.


I can't even afford to be just about managing

Like the 1980s*, I'll batten down the hatches and see out the next 10 years - I've got plenty of miniatures sitting around that need assembled and painted...

*Unlike the 1980s, there's no good music to see us through

I need the Pet Shop Boys to make a comeback


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 Avatar 720 wrote:
 Whirlwind wrote:
Sorry 'Leave' voters you have one more claim to defend against. Apparently you are bit smellier than Remain voters

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-vote-could-have-seen-remain-win-if-only-people-who-changed-underpants-daily-voted_uk_5837f680e4b0b60ceeaa160e

And UKIP supporters are even worse.

I am however concerned about the person that washed their underwear on average less than once every 10 times they wore them (I assume this can equate to days), ewww.


You know what they say: dirty pants, clean botty.


Never heard that saying before


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 Whirlwind wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Just reacting to all this doom and gloom about the budget.

As I've said many a time before, I have nothing, now they're saying I'll have half of nothing

Meh.

In many respects, the chickens are well and truly coming home to roost. Years of incompetent Labour and Tory governments have brought us to this point, and were we to stay in the EU, we'd still be struggling...

All this talk of a 'lost decade' is meaningless to people like me who have nothing to lose anyway...


You'd probably be surprised at how much you do have to lose. If inflation hits 4% (or higher maybe for food) then you'll have to make sacrifices somewhere.

That's less wargaming miniatures;
Slower internet access
Less pints down the pub
Less visits to the cinema
reduced mobile phone tariff
Less cans of coca-cola
and so on (replace with items of own choice)

The best thing you can do is take whatever income you have multiply it by 0.95 (that's a 5% decrease) and then work out what you will cut to meet the difference as that could be your relative 'salary' next year.


I grow my own vegetables and I would recommend people to do the same...

Plus, I'm getting a wood burning stove installed, so I can save on heating by burning logs instead of paying rip-off gas and electricity prices...

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Frostgrave

I tried growing my own veg but I don't have the space to do so in any meaningful way. This year I got maybe 3kg of carrots that cost about 4x what I'd have paid in Tesco.

If things get worse, you're looking at:

Higher rent/mortgage/council tax
Higher food bills
Higher heating bills (unless you've got enough woodland to provide free logs)
High electricity costs
Longer hospital/doctor waits
Worse roads
Lower benefits / wages

and so on. If you've living off grid, without need to access services, then you'll be fine. Or if you're fairly well off, you'll be fine. It can definitely get worse for everyone else in the middle.


I'm in the "doing alright" camp, but I'm not that far away from plunging into "just about managing" and beyond.

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Herzlos wrote:
I tried growing my own veg but I don't have the space to do so in any meaningful way. This year I got maybe 3kg of carrots that cost about 4x what I'd have paid in Tesco.

If things get worse, you're looking at:

Higher rent/mortgage/council tax
Higher food bills
Higher heating bills (unless you've got enough woodland to provide free logs)
High electricity costs
Longer hospital/doctor waits
Worse roads
Lower benefits / wages

and so on. If you've living off grid, without need to access services, then you'll be fine. Or if you're fairly well off, you'll be fine. It can definitely get worse for everyone else in the middle.


I'm in the "doing alright" camp, but I'm not that far away from plunging into "just about managing" and beyond.


NHS Scotland is performing far better than the NHS in the rest of the UK, and of course, the SNP administration in Edinburgh is a lot more competent than those misfits in Westminster...


"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd 
   
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Frostgrave

They can still only work with what they get. I'd hate to be reliant on English hospitals though, I've heard enough horror stories.
   
 
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