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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 19:15:09
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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To be fair these aluminum ones are hella light
and if you have a bad back or have noodle arms it would be much easier to deal with than a nice chunky 4x8 1/2inch plywood with extra bits and bobs.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 19:20:09
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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cincydooley wrote:$140 is well worth it for me, considering the time it would take to make something comparable on my own.
Agree, although keep in mind we are looking at 175 USD shipped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 19:37:33
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Parachuting Bashi Bazouk
Bowie, MD
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CptJake wrote:Semi-fold feature (stabilized for a 3' by 4' play surface)
Saw this on the campaign page.
How does that work?
Can you show a picture of it set up as a 3'x4'?
Thanks
If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd guess the 2 end sections fold down as each would be 1.5'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 20:18:28
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Brigadier General
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Looks like a really well designed table. $175 is certainly a fair price for a such a product. There are of course cheaper tables, but they aren't the precise size, usually don't fold quite as light and compact and are produced at much higher scale.
Not something I need since I've got enough space to slap some boards over my kitchen table when I need a big playing space and all my gaming friends have tables or space to set one up. Still, I wish you all the best of luck this is definitely a product that has been needed for a long time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 20:38:23
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Manchu wrote: cincydooley wrote:$140 is well worth it for me, considering the time it would take to make something comparable on my own.
Agree, although keep in mind we are looking at 175 USD shipped.
Fair. But even then, if that took me 5-6 hours to do, it's still well worth it based on the cost of time, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 20:42:24
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've been looking for a table like this forever. Next paycheck, I'm backing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 20:44:06
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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Dr_Keenbean wrote: CptJake wrote:Semi-fold feature (stabilized for a 3' by 4' play surface)
Saw this on the campaign page.
How does that work?
Can you show a picture of it set up as a 3'x4'?
Thanks
If I had to take a shot in the dark I'd guess the 2 end sections fold down as each would be 1.5'.
You're probably right, but I want to see it before I buy it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 21:43:32
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Maybe offer a coupon to non-us backers?
I appreciate this product, and have backed (#25 I believe).
Only thing I'm worried about is the corners. I understand the reasons behind smoothing those (Safety, etc) but it is gaming space that you are losing (particularly if using a FAT mat).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 22:14:15
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Calculating Commissar
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Will non-US backers get the same reward offer shipped to them after release?
I'm interested in this, but I'm not throwing money into backing something that I won't get the stated reward for. I mean really, it's just pre-ordering so if I'm going to pre-order something I would expect to get what I pay for.
Looks great otherwise!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 22:31:48
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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So I've never backed a Kickstarter, so sorry for the stupid question. If I back it, say $175 for one table shipped in the US, and it doesn't get funded...what happens?
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 22:40:49
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Calculating Commissar
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Colonel187 wrote:So I've never backed a Kickstarter, so sorry for the stupid question. If I back it, say $175 for one table shipped in the US, and it doesn't get funded...what happens?
Thanks!
If the Kickstarter flops, your money is refunded. It only bills you when it succeeds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 22:56:54
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Fresh-Faced New User
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metallifan wrote:Will non-US backers get the same reward offer shipped to them after release?
I'm interested in this, but I'm not throwing money into backing something that I won't get the stated reward for. I mean really, it's just pre-ordering so if I'm going to pre-order something I would expect to get what I pay for.
Looks great otherwise!
We will be retailing this unit at higher pricing than kickstarter. The campaign is a way to save about 55.00 US. I wish I could say that we will open this up to our Canadian brothers up North but the postage is just brutal. It's about 80.00 more to send it across the border. About 178.00 to just ship it to the EU not to mention customs if any. We are working with a shipper currently to see the best we can offer the American continent, and our warehouse in the EU should solve the issue of EU buyers.
One of the reasons we thought up this concept was so that it doesn't cost you more than an army of miniatures. We're not shipping a small box, and you pay for bulky packages. Please stand by, we are trying to make this happen in your local democracy.
Best Regards,
Joe
Automatically Appended Next Post: Colonel187 wrote:So I've never backed a Kickstarter, so sorry for the stupid question. If I back it, say $175 for one table shipped in the US, and it doesn't get funded...what happens?
Thanks!
Greetings,
If we don't meet our goal by the time our campaign clock runs out nothing happens. Money is never pulled off your card and we run back to the drawing board. If the campaign goes through then for your donation we will ship you a finished unit once it arrives and settles on the domestic side.
Joe
Automatically Appended Next Post: Anpu-adom wrote:Maybe offer a coupon to non-us backers?
I appreciate this product, and have backed (#25 I believe).
Only thing I'm worried about is the corners. I understand the reasons behind smoothing those (Safety, etc) but it is gaming space that you are losing (particularly if using a FAT mat).
I own several terrain mats so I did a comparison.
The corners of the mats are slightly sharper than the table.
The reason for the more rounded corners isn't as much of a safety issue as it is a structural issue. We want this thing to last a while.
The corners of the mats will cause you to loose about a quarter of an inch for about half an inch in rounding difference.
Also, we may end up making this thing 1 cm longer just to mitigate those corner issues.
Best Regards,
Joe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/18 23:14:44
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Calculating Commissar
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EmergencyPod wrote: metallifan wrote:Will non-US backers get the same reward offer shipped to them after release?
I'm interested in this, but I'm not throwing money into backing something that I won't get the stated reward for. I mean really, it's just pre-ordering so if I'm going to pre-order something I would expect to get what I pay for.
Looks great otherwise!
We will be retailing this unit at higher pricing than kickstarter. The campaign is a way to save about 55.00 US. I wish I could say that we will open this up to our Canadian brothers up North but the postage is just brutal. It's about 80.00 more to send it across the border. About 178.00 to just ship it to the EU not to mention customs if any. We are working with a shipper currently to see the best we can offer the American continent, and our warehouse in the EU should solve the issue of EU buyers.
One of the reasons we thought up this concept was so that it doesn't cost you more than an army of miniatures. We're not shipping a small box, and you pay for bulky packages. Please stand by, we are trying to make this happen in your local democracy.
Best Regards,
Joe
Thanks for the quick reply. I understand all of that, but my question was "If I back this now, and donate say $175 US (Which is like $225 CAD), will that donation be discounted off my future purchase once cross border opens up?"
I'm interested in Kickstarter projects, but only if they offer me a benefit I'll get out of it. Just donating to "Make it happen" isn't quite enough. I don't think it's reasonable to expect people outside the US to shell out a table-worthy donation and then have to go back and buy one full price later on. That probably sounded more rude than I meant it. Really I'm just curious what my motivation as a potential non-US backer is?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 00:25:00
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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metallifan wrote:Colonel187 wrote:So I've never backed a Kickstarter, so sorry for the stupid question. If I back it, say $175 for one table shipped in the US, and it doesn't get funded...what happens?
Thanks!
If the Kickstarter flops, your money is refunded. It only bills you when it succeeds.
Actually, it is even better than that - the money only leaves your account IF the campaign is successful.
If not, it never does.
Which is one of the reasons why Kickstarter has it all over IndieGoGo...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 02:02:59
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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Alpharius wrote: metallifan wrote:Colonel187 wrote:So I've never backed a Kickstarter, so sorry for the stupid question. If I back it, say $175 for one table shipped in the US, and it doesn't get funded...what happens?
Thanks!
If the Kickstarter flops, your money is refunded. It only bills you when it succeeds.
Actually, it is even better than that - the money only leaves your account IF the campaign is successful.
If not, it never does.
Which is one of the reasons why Kickstarter has it all over IndieGoGo...
For clarity though, just because the kickstarter succeeds it doesn't guarantee when or even if you'll get your items.
Prodos, for example, has had 300 dollars of my money for well over 2 years and I have nothing.
This does not imply that this kickstarter won't deliver, I just wanted to inform the guy that it isn't risk free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 02:06:17
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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[DCM]
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That is, of course, a VERY good point!
Kickstarter is absolutely 'caveat emptor' territory!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 02:22:45
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
Ohio
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I'm interested in the extra 1cm in length to mitigate the overhang of a gaming mat. I'm following the campaign on Kickstarter now and that'd probably push me over the edge as I have a number of gaming mats I'd like to use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 12:09:43
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@EmergencyPod
Have you considered making the table in 3 parts instead of 4 parts?
That way you can get a 4x4 and a 6x4.
A 4x4 playarea is much more common than a 3x4 for instance.
I know this would make the individual board pieces a bit bigger, and require more space in height rather than depths when storing, but I think it would still be a good trade-off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 12:24:42
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Parachuting Bashi Bazouk
Bowie, MD
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Spiky Norman wrote:@EmergencyPod
Have you considered making the table in 3 parts instead of 4 parts?
That way you can get a 4x4 and a 6x4.
A 4x4 playarea is much more common than a 3x4 for instance.
I know this would make the individual board pieces a bit bigger, and require more space in height rather than depths when storing, but I think it would still be a good trade-off.
Yeah a lot more games use 4' x 4' than 3' x anything.
Though I don't see how it could be made in 3 parts. 4 differently-sized (1' - 2' - 2' - 1) 'sections possibly.
Is it still stable with only 1 side up and 1 down? Making a 4.5' x 4' table?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 12:41:42
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dr_Keenbean wrote:Yeah a lot more games use 4' x 4' than 3' x anything.
Though I don't see how it could be made in 3 parts. 4 differently-sized (1' - 2' - 2' - 1) 'sections possibly.
Is it still stable with only 1 side up and 1 down? Making a 4.5' x 4' table?
I was just thinking 3 parts each being 2x4, and each having a set of feet.
Basically a 4x4 in 2 parts, with an optional added 2x4 with its own feet. The third 2x4 could hang down at the end, if you're not using it, or get taken off, if they can make it detachable.
Of course if this board has a raised rim, then it's no good, as you would have a rim going through the middle (short way) of table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 13:35:11
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Spiky Norman wrote:@EmergencyPod
Have you considered making the table in 3 parts instead of 4 parts?
That way you can get a 4x4 and a 6x4.
A 4x4 playarea is much more common than a 3x4 for instance.
I know this would make the individual board pieces a bit bigger, and require more space in height rather than depths when storing, but I think it would still be a good trade-off.
4x4 would be a nice option, although the benefit to playing a 4x4 game on a 6 foot table is that you have 2 feet of extra space for rulebooks, dead piles, and so on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/19 13:44:47
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Dakka Veteran
Miles City, MT
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Another question I have is are there any plans to make a 4 x 8 foldable table? I really like this table will probably support regardless. And are there any plans to make a version with not quite so round corners?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 03:23:51
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I must say that the positive feedback from dakkadakka is just wild. Thank you all so much for supporting us and sending all of your great suggestions. Please help us keep the fires burning. Even if it's a couple of bucks, anything helps and encourages us to develop new concepts.
Best Regards,
Joe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 11:08:32
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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Joe, can you give us a picture of the table set up as a 3' x 4'?
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 12:00:29
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Sure Shot Scarecrow Sniper
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Superb idea, will buy if/'when it comes to Europe. $2 backer for now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 14:07:18
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Lightweight aluminum for a frame is a superb idea and far exceeds what a typical DIY can do. As someone who has put together multiple tables, a durable, compact, folding table is not a trivial task and requires substantial time, skill, and tools. Not to mention it's not that cheap. Heck, a cheap plastic 6 ft split folding table will set you back over $100. So $140 for something that breaks down into multiple *usable* configurations, is less bulky and lighter seems like a solid deal.
Good luck on the kickstarter!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 15:32:08
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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EmergencyPod wrote:
Also, we may end up making this thing 1 cm longer just to mitigate those corner issues.
I think that's a great idea - a slightly larger surface would also help with the corners on Realm of Battle or Tablescapes tiles, without making it substantially bigger. I like this idea!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 15:37:39
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well if you make it something like a 1 foot longer, then there would be about 6" of space at the ends for things like dice and drinks.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 15:42:57
Subject: A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Fixture of Dakka
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Desubot wrote:Well if you make it something like a 1 foot longer, then there would be about 6" of space at the ends for things like dice and drinks.
Or create clip-on accessories to hold them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/20 16:47:42
Subject: Re:A Portable 6x4 table on kickstarter ALPHA Game Table
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Calculating Commissar
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So no answer on whether or not non-US backers get any post-release benefit to backing then?
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