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Kroot also confirmed (not really, but come on). People on reddit 40k are getting pumped in the Sisters comments for Kroot and Demiurg. It's all happening folks. Even Exodites. I don't believe there won't be a big army that isn't coming back. I bet we'll even get Arbites and Gangers in a boxed set at some far future point.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
I find it hard to believe that GW would make plastic SoB cost more than the metals do in AUD. At the very least there'd be weapon upgrades that's make the box more worthwhile compared to the metals.

Probably not, but GW have several models that cost as much or more than metals and some that are really basic too (Dire Avengers aren't much cheaper than Sisters and are very basic plastic models).

For what it's worth I considered this a hilarious and particularly tongue-in-cheek video (even if it turns out to be joke). Obviously they are well aware what is going on around them.

Additionally I do really like the (video) content they are constantly churning out. Rob and Duncan are really nice guys and their attitude is (at least to me) very contagious... I like the current direction we are going to...

SKR.HH wrote:
For what it's worth I considered this a hilarious and particularly tongue-in-cheek video (even if it turns out to be joke). Obviously they are well aware what is going on around them.

Additionally I do really like the (video) content they are constantly churning out. Rob and Duncan are really nice guys and their attitude is (at least to me) very contagious... I like the current direction we are going to...

I think people within GW have always been well aware of what goes on around them, just people making decisions aren't or weren't aware or flat out didn't care.

I don't know how you could possibly have a job as a miniature or rules designer and be completely oblivious to things people are saying, you'd either have to not care in the slightest or be actively shutting it out.

I wonder if we might see a huge plastic St Celestine, or a FW one?

Bonan wrote:
Dude, you're literally the only child throwing a tantrum in this thread.

I think he's talking about every other thread where sisters are mentioned (and many where they aren't even mentioned ).

I will admit it'll be sad to lose the entertainment value of the whinging sisters fans, but I'm sure we can still have 30 page long discussions about sister's boob plate and the diameter of their ankles

I am very excited for this. I have a small/modest collection of the Sisters, and look foreword to being able to collect them in earnest.

I just hope this isn't like the Skitarii/Cult mechanicus were the army is meant to be built around formations. That's a huge turn off for me. I couldn't collect them to play, because I just couldn't get excited for the rules. The formation that gave you free upgrades and no get's hot was so blantly the best way to build that army it killed all my hype.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Bonan wrote:
Dude, you're literally the only child throwing a tantrum in this thread.

I think he's talking about every other thread where sisters are mentioned (and many where they aren't even mentioned ).

I will admit it'll be sad to lose the entertainment value of the whinging sisters fans, but I'm sure we can still have 30 page long discussions about sister's boob plate and the diameter of their ankles

don't worry, you always have the csm players

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What the feth am I thinking?

This past two years has seen us get:

Codex: Halequins
Codex: Skitarii
Codex: Cult Mechanicus
Codex: Deathwatch
Codex: Genestealer Cults

And there's a Thousand Sons release on the way, no doubt with a Codex, and a mother fething Daemon Primarch in plastic!!!

What right do I have to doubt that Sisters will be a proper re-release?

If these are all possible, then anything is possible...

Hope this is true,

IF it is, gonna make the SOB my second big army ,

Not to sound obtuse but would squats even fit with the tone of the current 40k? They kinda seem outta place. (Imo)

That said, it'd be pretty clever of GW to reintroduce them while making them interchangeable with the rumored AoS steamhead Duardin faction.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not to sound obtuse but would squats even fit with the tone of the current 40k? They kinda seem outta place. (Imo)

That said, it'd be pretty clever of GW to reintroduce them while making them interchangeable with the rumored AoS steamhead Duardin faction.

Nasty grumpy steampunk miners who hate everyone and everything and like to drink?

Yeah, totally doesn't fit.

My biggest fear regarding this is that with all other rumors about the next edition/rules reboot/"sigmarification", their new codex might get released just right before the new edition gets out, AGAIN making them obsolete right out of the box just like it was with 2ed and Witchhunters and dooming them to commercial failure.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not to sound obtuse but would squats even fit with the tone of the current 40k? They kinda seem outta place. (Imo)

Did Genestealer Cults even fit with the tone of the current 40k? I'd say it's both the same question and the same answer.

Which is to say, if they want to reissue them, they will make them fit. Hopefully with the same level of flair.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not to sound obtuse but would squats even fit with the tone of the current 40k? They kinda seem outta place. (Imo)

That said, it'd be pretty clever of GW to reintroduce them while making them interchangeable with the rumored AoS steamhead Duardin faction.

Nasty grumpy steampunk miners who hate everyone and everything and like to drink?

Yeah, totally doesn't fit.

Miners? Yes...

Bikers? No (IMO --> also a stupid concept for SM and Orks )...

Sorry, I'm a fantasy guy so I'm pretty clueless about squats and genestealer cults.

Really good points, though. Hope they can make it in then.

Edit: Ah, so squat bikers are a thing. Heard something about it but didn't inquire further.

It's not a troll.

Why the hell would it be a troll? Do you guys have any idea of how PR and marketing work? Do you think people wake up one day and say "Oh yeah today we'll troll our entire fanbase".

Come on...

Actually, about those Squats ...




I feel like I joined GW when it was in the Dark Ages (around same time I made my account here) and now I'm going through a Renaissance era.

Yes, this is exactly what the game needs right now, yet another army that will get an update no sooner than 6 years in and further discourage the studio from ever rebooting the game to make it, you know, worth playing. AM got a half-baked codex that's only playable thanks to broken formations and look to get anything new only after 2 years of silence. I can't imagine the GS Cult will fare any better and see any new models within the next 3 years. I fully expect the SoB getting ignored immediately after the re-release and not touched again for years.

In any case, SoBs have always, even reaching as far back as 3rd edition, been a niche army and few were interested in collecting them. I don't see that changing even after a comprehensive remake of the line. Dark Eldar got that and yet remain one of the least popular factions in the game. Same with GK. I'd rather the company dedicated these resources to models that have languished for far too long, such as aspect warriors or virtually the entire CSM line (which happens to remain one of the most popular armies despite the neglect), which would be guaranteed best-sellers and appease disenfranchised customers somewhat. But they'd rather push poor-man's space marines...

I literally just saw this on my fb feed and I'm in shock.
Was getting ready for work but I now don't know what to do with myself. I feel a bit emotional. My metal sisters will be getting some new friends and my credit card will be taking a beating!

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
There are those who said this day would never come.

What are they to say now?

Personally?


snip.
Reds8n

 -DE- wrote:
I'd rather the company dedicated these resources to models that have languished for far too long, such as […] virtually the entire CSM line[…]. But they'd rather push poor-man's space marines...

The irony .

Dude, you'll finally get the chance to adjust your Sisters of Bitter sig

 -DE- wrote:
Yes, this is exactly what the game needs right now, yet another army that will get an update no sooner than 6 years in and further discourage the studio from ever rebooting the game to make it, you know, worth playing. AM got a half-baked codex that's only playable thanks to broken formations and look to get anything new only after 2 years of silence. I can't imagine the GS Cult will fare any better and see any new models within the next 3 years. I fully expect the SoB getting ignored immediately after the re-release and not touched again for years.

In any case, SoBs have always, even reaching as far back as 3rd edition, been a niche army and few were interested in collecting them. I don't see that changing even after a comprehensive remake of the line. Dark Eldar got that and yet remain one of the least popular factions in the game. Same with GK. I'd rather the company dedicated these resources to models that have languished for far too long, such as aspect warriors or virtually the entire CSM line (which happens to remain one of the most popular armies despite the neglect), which would be guaranteed best-sellers and appease disenfranchised customers somewhat. But they'd rather push poor-man's space marines...

The sisters models have been languished for far to long as well

 -DE- wrote:
I'd rather the company dedicated these resources to models that have languished for far too long, such as aspect warriors or virtually the entire CSM line (which happens to remain one of the most popular armies despite the neglect), which would be guaranteed best-sellers and appease disenfranchised customers somewhat. But they'd rather push poor-man's space marines...

And, say, you don't... see any kind of inherent contradictions on the above?

tneva82 wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I mean, I hope it is real too, but that came across more as a joke than a 'real confirmation'...

For arguments sake, even if it is real, it'll still suffer the problems that have always dogged Sisters of Battle - they're such a niche army.

I appreciate the fact they have a loyal following and people have spent a lot of time and money on them over the years,

but metal, plastic, it makes no difference if nobody is buying them, and they can't sustain themselves in the long run...

But are people not buying them because nobody is interested or because GW doesn't support them with models and rules?

Dark eldar didn't sell much either before range was redone and new codex released...After that they started to sell.

No support=no sales. FB sales tanked in 8th ed largely because of lousy support as they redirected efforts to AOS from 2012.

It's not a support problem IMO, it's a gender problem.

I think the reason that Sisters don't sell is because they're a female army.

And no, I'm not attacking women here or getting into a sexist rant, I'm merely highlighting the demographics of our hobby.

The vast majority of the hobby is male gamers, and the target market for GW is teenage boys.

The space marine tactical squad will never go out of production, because it's popular and appeals to the demographic.

9 times out of ten, I'd bet my house that when a kid goes into a GW for the first time to buy something he's after the tactical squad, or the knight titan, or the Tau super battle suit or whatever. There's always the odd exception, but I doubt if a sister's squad is at the top of the wish list.

Yes, initially, Sisters will sell, becuase loyal fans will snap up the boxes, but is that enough for the long run?

There seems to be very few female wargamers in the hobby and it would be silly to think that female wargamers will automatically buy female models, and even the loyal fans, regardless of them being male or female, might not be enough to keep the production going.

And, let's not forget that this is partially due to a change in management. What if management changes again, and the new guy, Alan Merrit mark II, decides to scrap Genestealer cults and sisters?

No GW manager regardless of regime, will ever scrap Space Marines, but sisters always seem to be a hostage to fortune.
Feth, I'm still holding out for a new Brettonian army book





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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What the feth am I thinking?

This past two years has seen us get:

Codex: Halequins
Codex: Skitarii
Codex: Cult Mechanicus
Codex: Deathwatch
Codex: Genestealer Cults

And there's a Thousand Sons release on the way, no doubt with a Codex, and a mother fething Daemon Primarch in plastic!!!

What right do I have to doubt that Sisters will be a proper re-release?

None of those examples, though, are much of a risk. Harlequins have always been popular and sold well - their sales data will tell them that.

Deathwatch is nothing more, from a production view, a tactical squad painted black. No great risk there.

Space Hulk sold well, so again, their sales data tells them there is a market for more Genestealers.

and the Mars stuff was building on techmarines, which sell well, and so on...

These are not risky to put on sale. Sisters are, because past experience tells you that sisters struggled the last time they were on sale...

My friend is a male gamer who is interested in sisters and only sisters.

 -DE- wrote:
Yes, this is exactly what the game needs right now, yet another army that will get an update no sooner than 6 years in and further discourage the studio from ever rebooting the game to make it, you know, worth playing. AM got a half-baked codex that's only playable thanks to broken formations and look to get anything new only after 2 years of silence. I can't imagine the GS Cult will fare any better and see any new models within the next 3 years. I fully expect the SoB getting ignored immediately after the re-release and not touched again for years.

In any case, SoBs have always, even reaching as far back as 3rd edition, been a niche army and few were interested in collecting them. I don't see that changing even after a comprehensive remake of the line. Dark Eldar got that and yet remain one of the least popular factions in the game. Same with GK. I'd rather the company dedicated these resources to models that have languished for far too long, such as aspect warriors or virtually the entire CSM line (which happens to remain one of the most popular armies despite the neglect), which would be guaranteed best-sellers and appease disenfranchised customers somewhat. But they'd rather push poor-man's space marines...

Appeasing disenfranchised customers only applies to those that feel they've been disenfranchised due to having had top-tier competitive armies with huge numbers of releases relatively recently, but not those of us that have had the pain for much longer?
Is it possible you're a teeny bit biased here? You did notice the bits about Magnus and Thousand Sons right and that nobody seems to care about that due to the much smaller hint of Sisters?

"poor-man's space marines", really? Do you have any idea how much a Sisters player has to pay to put together even a small force? Playing Sisters currently shows a level of fiscal dedication higher even than that of FW HH fans.

It's not a support problem IMO, it's a gender problem.

I think the reason that Sisters don't sell is because they're a female army.

And no, I'm not attacking women here or getting into a sexist rant, I'm merely highlighting the demographics of our hobby.

The vast majority of the hobby is male gamers, and the target market for GW is teenage boys.

The space marine tactical squad will never go out of production, because it's popular and appeals to the demographic.

9 times out of ten, I'd bet my house that when a kid goes into a GW for the first time to buy something he's after the tactical squad, or the knight titan, or the Tau super battle suit or whatever. There's always the odd exception, but I doubt if a sister's squad is at the top of the wish list.

Yes, initially, Sisters will sell, becuase loyal fans will snap up the boxes, but is that enough for the long run?

There seems to be very few female wargamers in the hobby and it would be silly to think that female wargamers will automatically buy female models, and even the loyal fans, regardless of them being male or female, might not be enough to keep the production going.

And, let's not forget that this is partially due to a change in management. What if management changes again, and the new guy, Alan Merrit mark II, decides to scrap Genestealer cults and sisters?

No GW manager regardless of regime, will ever scrap Space Marines, but sisters always seem to be a hostage to fortune.
Feth, I'm still holding out for a new Brettonian army book

I think there are several reasons that people will buy new models

They look cool
They like the fluff / background
They have great (or broken) rules

The third one in particular is regardless of gender and given that at least some of those who buy purely based on their rules may not even paint the models - there are likely to care even less about the fine details such as if they have boobs or not.

Its more along the lines of "Wow a five man ( ) squad can take four meltas, scouting, ignore cover and in a decent vehicle as well"

I know that those who saw my sisters in action in the local GW store were impressed but several stated they were put off by metal rather than plastic and the price per model.

I think there is a decent market for Sisters but I am admittedly bias - but the reaction to the hint was in the main extremely positive and generated far more reaction that say the model of Magnus! Female models do very well in other games and in a variety of recent kickstarters.

Consequently I hope it was not just a throwaway joke.

High-risk army cult, maybe popular in certain circles but it was still a big risk.I'm sure that they thought it wouldn't sell as well as it is.

And ill go one better old dark eldar did not sell. A reboot has seen them do extremely well.

From what I'm hearing and it could be all bullhockey, there was plans for a historical
warhammer with small forces a lot like isle of blood which had Brets. However it might have been the starter box for 9th which turned into AoS. Again I'm not saying it's true but that was an idea tossed around.

S.Y.

Dark Eldar are mid tier in terms of popularity which is much higher than most people give them credit for and a decent selling army likely to see support in the future. I bet we would see an uptick with better rules since that is all that's hindering their good sculpts back. http://www.totellstories.com/40k/