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The Imperial Guard commanders can issue orders to their men. There is a list of them in the codex. In addition among the Psychic powers you can roll for, is onethat allows your entire unitto re-roll its misses called prescience. You should have no problem getting the powers you need with six rolls to try but, of course, there is always a chance you wont. However Prescience is the Primaris power and as such, any time you take ALL your powers on a GIVEN Psyker from Divination, he will automatically get Prescience also.

Got it, I think. Use the Prescience command/psychic power to get twinlinked.

As for the Hydras: your force has no answer, other than twin linking, for Tyrant spam and other earial predators so I recommend the Hydra. The Artillery formation might even REQUIRE the Hydra. I cant remember. But you already are dropping blasts everywhere with this army. The Wyvern is world class as vehicles go. You could add to the mess nicely with a Wyvern. But this comes down to a meta question.

Ok, thank the Emperor they come in one set.

HAIL HYDRA!

Thank the Emperor I'm not the only one putting references.

If you clip the bit on the gun barrell of the hydras when you put them in the slot, they can easily be pulled out again. This simple conversion allows the vehicle to be a hydra or a Wyvern whenevr you want it to be!

Thank-you

So i guess just 10 Demolition Veterans maybe?

Would a squad of kaskrins work? (also in the Codex, I can't find them, do I just take the scions stats?)

There are also sets of magnets that come with the perfect sized drill bit with them. This way you can very easily drill the hole, lay the magnet inside the hole. Very cool. It "seats" the magnet in there nicely. You will want to do this because the pull on those magnets can be so great that they kind of pull each other off the models themselves. A little less surface area being exposed helps limit this and it lasts longer. Just dont drill too far. =)

Ok thanks, where would I find that? (the imperium has billions of soldiers, if one dies to overdrilling, ten more shall take his place)

Where's MoO?

CommanderRednaxela wrote:

Would a squad of kaskrins work? (also in the Codex, I can't find them, do I just take the scions stats?)

No Scions are not a troops choice. HOWEVER... HOWEVER...Kasrkin models (the old stormtrooper models) can be stand ins FOR veterans if you make the veterans Grenadiers (the ones with Carapace armor).

So that could work.

or you can just say SCREW IT THESE GUYS ARE MY DEMO VETS and watch your opponent nod his head in acceptance which is what will probably happen. In which case...you get super cool models to grace the table with!

As for Magnets: google is your friend.

CommanderRednaxela wrote:
Ok thanks, where would I find that? (the imperium has billions of soldiers, if one dies to overdrilling, ten more shall take his place)

why did I just hear cha-ching coming from the direction of GW's HQ ?

I feel that it's worth noting for the artillery formation it may be best to avoid the wyvern.  Not that they are bad it's quite the opposite actually, Wyverns already have twin linked and ignores covers so the formation bonuses are wasted on them. Just put down 4 basilisks and the manticore and really rain down the fire power. Also make sure to include volkov's cane for only failing orders on a double 6.  

Asterios wrote:

CommanderRednaxela wrote:
Ok thanks, where would I find that? (the imperium has billions of soldiers, if one dies to overdrilling, ten more shall take his place)

why did I just hear cha-ching coming from the direction of GW's HQ ?

That would be due to your excellent hearing, methinks.


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UrsoerTheSquid wrote:
I feel that it's worth noting for the artillery formation it may be best to avoid the wyvern.  Not that they are bad it's quite the opposite actually, Wyverns already have twin linked and ignores covers so the formation bonuses are wasted on them. Just put down 4 basilisks and the manticore and really rain down the fire power. Also make sure to include volkov's cane for only failing orders on a double 6.  

Ignores Cover o nthe Hydra on the other hand is QUITE handy

Actually that brings up a good point. Is ebay an acceptable source of soldiers (of course there new, building it is half the fun ... and battle).

Ok, you spoke of 4 basilisks, but the rule is "2 squadrons". So my question is how much is a squadron?

Finally whats the difference between demo vet and veteran grendairs. (Wouldn't mind just using their models even if its not their abilities, because they are just gorgeous!)

There is an entire section on ebay of "40k magnets"

Demo vets all have melta bombs and one has a demo charge,

Grenediers have the carapace. As for WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) when it comes to me using vets with carapace for me it's all or none. Seeing as I will sometimes use both MT's an vets I just use normal guardsmen for my veterans and either they all have carapace or they don't. It makes it much easier for my opponent to identify which is which.

I also recently started acquiring other regiments to use as my veteran squads. So all my rank and file guardsmen are Cadians, but my veterans are now becoming the different regiments of the imperial guard. Such as catachan, Armageddon, or tallarn guardsmen.

I've made a mistake abnd forgot to add the regimental advisors to the CCP. So, I actually only have 50 points.
And (didn't use the word also!) what does it mean avetern squad can take a chimera, is it free?

Nope, not feree.

Nope, not feree.

Ok.
So what should I do with the remaining fifty points, since I cannot afford a veterns squad(much less a demo vet)

Well lets go through the list:

You have Veterans. Did you arm them with Meltaguns and a Lascannon?

Alternatively, you could also take 50 pointsd and get Ratlings for a cheap Line breaking unit.

Line breaker is one of the 3 Secondary objectives often found in missions and IG have a great cheap and survivable unit called Ratlings that can secrete themselves in a hidey hole or just outflank and then use their sneaky hiding skills to sort of just survive and score that point for you. Its pretty important to remember secondary objectives, as they can VERY ofte nbe the difference between winning and losing.

You have Veterans.

WIthout vets at all the list adds up to 1800. However the CCS does have 4 veterans.
I would check again, however the only melee weapons I can find are the power fist and power weapons. If I get ride of the sergeants with melee weapons(since I can't find how much their worth, however keeping their metlabombs) it gets me a grand total of: 1740(enough for one vet, with any upgrades). If I find the cost of them then I can add that. Finally, when getting a heavy weapons team I DO need to pay for both the team AND for the cost of the special weapon they choose, correct (I have so far).

Power weapons are a category, which encompas'power mauls, power axes and power swords et al


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No. The lascannon replaces two guardsman in each 10 man guardsman unit. So you end up w 4 lascannons, 4 power axe wielding sergeants, and 28 guardsman. Plus of course the separate 5 man Platoon command squad.

That leaves you with extra guardsmen to use as veterans.

Oh, see I had gotten 36 shock troops with 4 sergeants and 4 heavy weapons teams and a pcs. Now thats going to save enough point for Kaskrins!!(well techincally vets using kaskrin models)

Edit: Ok, first, when it says two guardsman can make a heavy weapons team, this deosn't any points (besides the lascannon). If this is correct I have 35 points left (with ratlyings and demo vets). Would vox casters be useful? I thought the arty formation had some rule that talked about those.

I would spend the point for volkov's cane. It's an upgrade for a company commander that allows units withing a certain distance to only fail orders on a double 6. So you stick him beside your artillery.

Also if your vets aren't equipped with anything you can give them melta guns.

UrsoerTheSquid wrote:
I would spend the point for volkov's cane. It's an upgrade for a company commander that allows units withing a certain distance to only fail orders on a double 6. So you stick him beside your artillery.

I can't find it in the codex.

As for vets, each cost 10 so I could buy 3 (which is the max) leaving me with five points.

Volkov's cane is in the mont'ka supplement which also contains that artillery formation.

But the melta guns are usually a good idea. As for the 5 points. I have no idea! I'd have to flip through the codex!

Ok, for five points, I could get a vox caster, gernade launcher, 2 sniper rifles, a flamer, a mortar team for my demo vets, or finally, I could give my enginseer meltabombs.

Also, the Wyvern, basilisk, hydra, manticore, LR eradication, and LR demolisher can replace their heavy bolter with a heavy flamer, is it worth it for any of them? (They are all free)

As for the chimera it can replace its heavy bolter with a heavy flamer and/or replace its multi-laser with a heavyweight flamer or heavy bolter, which is free as well

meltabombs for the win.

 Jancoran wrote:
meltabombs for the win.

got it, enginseer with meltabomb.

As for the armor and ary, worth giving any of them heavy flamers (or switching the chimera's primary to a bolter or flamer instead of the multi-laser)?

Edit: Volkov's cane cost 10 points, meaning one less meltagun.

That is one of those calls you'll have to make. i personally would do heavy flamers because when the artillery is firing its unlikel yto be able to do more than snap fire a heavy bolter.

That is one of those calls you'll have to make

Ok, (I may be slightly biased because I love the idea of cleansing with fire!) Is that all left? I have no other questions that I can think of.

Edit: Which one is the rulebook? I know of the codex, the mont'ka and the imperial armor books, however which one is the general rulebook?

That's called the rule book. It's unfortunate I was flipping through my older brothers old 3rd e rule book and was flooded with fond memories when the rule book contained not only all the rules but also had most of the rules/stats , each army as well. You still needed the codex for the special snowflake rules but it was easy to check the points/stats of every unit in the game!

Also, with strong rumors of 8th ed coming out and maybe even a new dex I would advise caution on dropping all that money on a bunch of books in one shot. Start with the am codex and if you can find one a mini rulebook (all the rules, less fluff). And then build from there!‎,

I doubt the 8th Edition rules will be out before 2018. Get your army and begin the pillaging.

 Jancoran wrote:
I doubt the 8th Edition rules will be out before 2018. Get your army and begin the pillaging.

I am, (turns out one of proffessers had any army in highschool and would like to play them again, even if his stuff may be outdated!) I was just trying to find the generla rulebook, is this the correct one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-Vengeance-Mini-Warhammer-40K-Rule-book-7th-Edition-New-/252433502514

That's the one, yeep

Well then all thats left is to get about half a million dice ( and a scatter and arty), templates, and start collecting. Thank-you all and may the God-Emperor bless you.

Go forth and bring the Emperors hammer to some fools.

No sure if it's already been suggested, but the new Armoured Claw boxset for Genestealer Cult that inclues neophytes and a chimera actually seems like a pretty good deal if you're looking to create a mechanised force. £35 for Infantry + tank is about a £15 saving, and you might even be able to get some resale value out of the genestealer sprues. If you're looking to build the core elements of a guard army, the start collecting and that box will give you plenty of infantry and a variety of tanks.