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The recent events of major CEOs like Walmart and GM going to meet with Trump, kiss his hand an announce big investment and jobs in the US are simple cons, played on Trump by CEOs smart enough to know how to shift a couple of numbers. The Walmart jobs were new staff for stores planned years ago, and are mostly of the $10 an hour variety. Meanwhile Walmart is cutting higher paying back end jobs... but Trump has his story about new jobs offered up to him by a supplicant CEO. Similarly, GM made a detail free promise about 7,000 jobs, while remaining committed to making more and more cars in Mexico. The article doesn't mention it, but Barro is on an economic advisory board to Trump, talk of the tariff was a very shallow showmanship.
The announcement for Bayer is utterly mundane - pharmaceutical research and manufacture is a huge growth area in the US, it'd be weird if a multinational wasn't investing 9 figure sums in new business. It's also a case of a very clever CEO trapping a very stupid president - Trump has been led down the path of cheerleading the merger with Monsanto, a decision that is meant to be made by the Justice Dept based on their reading of anti-trust laws. The last president to try this was Richard Nixon with ITT (more than the hotel break-in, Woodward and Bernstein's investigations were all about the hundreds of thousands in campaign contributions ITT made to have their acquisition pass anti-trust review). Trump isn't even smart enough to get some money in exchange for taking a political position on the Bayer and Monsanto merger.
Probably the funniest one is Boeing, because it created the most noise despite meaning absolutely nothing. Trump tweeted that Airforce One cost $4 billion. It doesn't, it costs $2.9 billion over ten years. The Boeing CEO doesn't put out the incredible incompetence of the incoming president, instead he just meets with Trump and comes out of the meeting saying Boeing will make a better plane at a lower cost. ie same plane, still at the actual cost and not Trump's stupid made up number, but I'll pretend you're not stupid and made some kind of deal, and you keep giving us our sweet defence contracts.
This is the Berlusconi con, people. The only question is whether the American people are as hopelessly gullible as the Italians were.
America already bought that nonsense about Carrier. Something tells me it work for at least a few years until everyone realizes everyone they know is losing their dead end job and they just got handed a pink slip.
d-usa wrote: Maybe the crowd really was larger, and we just didn't see it on those pictures because the white ground made all the white robes hard to see?
"Rigged media"
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LordofHats wrote: America already bought that nonsense about Carrier. Something tells me it work for at least a few years until everyone realizes everyone they know is losing their dead end job and they just got handed a pink slip.
Yeah, it was pretty embarrassing when people bought the nonsense the first time around with Carrier. I can't see it working for four years though, with Trump constantly calling in CEOs to get them to announce 'deals' where they're going to do something that they'd already planned to do years ago. It seems a trick you can play once or twice before it becomes noise.
End of the day, what matters is those monthly job creation figures. And those are largely at the whim of the economic gods.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
sebster wrote: End of the day, what matters is those monthly job creation figures. And those are largely at the whim of the economic gods.
Fortunately, if the whim of the economic gods does not line up with the wishes of the Dear Leader we can always have some alternative facts to fix the problem.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Why? What reason is there to expect his next 98 days to deviate from the well-established trend of bad government?
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
wuestenfux wrote: I'm not a Trump supporter, but the media are a bit unfair. Also here in Germany. Give him at least 100 days of government.
He started being bad before in office and has just continued. How long you need to see he's bad before you admit he's bad? What next 98 days are going to be that first couple months haven't been? Hell he's shown to be bad president even before elections were over! We have had like year+ of him showing what he's like as a president.
Why? What reason is there to expect his next 98 days to deviate from the well-established trend of bad government?
He already backed up the secret services.
Wait and see if he will support protectionism and isolation in the near future. I hope he will see that this is the wrong way.
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sebster wrote: I can't see it working for four years though
I think you underestimate the stupidity of the average American. I mean, all you have to do is look at who was elected President and that will tell just how idiotic we are. His competitor wasn't a good choice either. Our dumb game is strong and I'm betting we got it in us to be fooled for many years regardless of the truth or facts.
Also, "alternate facts" sounds strangely Orwellian, which is, of course, double plus good!
Do you have anything other than desperate hope and wishful thinking about this? Any credible reasons to believe that Trump's record so far is not representative of his next 98 days in office? Because so far the evidence is not in favor of Trump miraculously figuring out how to do a better job of anything. His nominees are still terrible, his stated policy goals are still terrible, and his interactions with the media have been a continuation of the established lying and gaslighting.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
H.R.586 - To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
... and it begins.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
This is the Berlusconi con, people. The only question is whether the American people are as hopelessly gullible as the Italians were.
Most likely, it will follow the same way; everything will go back at Trump's face like a boomerang, but years later, when he's not in office/supported by his party anymore and after his mandate. And too late for the damage already done.
I mean, people keep defending him right now. You can't believe they will magically turn against their beliefs, when they were conned that long. People would rather try to find "alternative facts" than recognizing they were conned (and thus, implying they were stupid enough to let themselves be conned).
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H.R.586 - To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
... and it begins.
Actually thats not off from current case law. The real issue is when life can can exist outside the womb. As technology advances the state's compelling interest in protecting the life of its citizenry will advance.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
You know I think that is fair... but here's the thing.
He's been President for three days, and what is the thing that has dominated his public message? How many people were at his inauguration, whether it was raining or not, and how unfair the media is for reporting that turnout for the inauguration was meh and that it was raining. That's his message. He has sent people in front of cameras and reporters to talk about it. They talked about at the first press conference of the administration.
The media does not dictate his message they just air it, and he has let his message be this asinine garbage. That's not the media's fault. He's three days in and this is what Trump's Administration has chosen to talk about.
I don't think the media is being remotely unfair. This is easily the most childish thing that any president has ever done in my lifetime. With no exaggeration this is the kind of behavior I expect out of a grade schooler, not a grown ass man with billions of dollars in his bank account. And he's the fething President. He could have seriously just sat back and accepted that it rained on his big day and that if people don't go out to vote indoors when its raining, they probably aren't going to go out and stand under falling water for hours in a huge crowd just to hear him talk. It was really that simple to move past this.
So I honestly don't think the media is being unfair. I'm all for giving a guy a chance but he pretty much torpedoed that opportunity by his own hand within 12 hours of taking the oath.
EDIT: I'm bolding that because holy gak people. He hadn't even been president for a day.
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H.R.586 - To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
... and it begins.
Actually thats not off from current case law. The real issue is when life can can exist outside the womb. As technology advances the state's compelling interest in protecting the life of its citizenry will advance.
Iraqis at this tiny outpost near the front lines of the ISIS battle warn that any attempt by the US to seize their oil would destabilize the country, and the region, and possibly undermine the war against ISIS he has described as a top priority.
“There’s no way Trump could take the oil unless he launched a new military front and it be a new world war,” said Kareem Kashekh, a photographer who works for the Popular Mobilization Units, a new branch of Iraq’s armed forces consisting of former militiamen and volunteers fighting against ISIS.
“He cannot do it. He cannot succeed,” said Dawoud Ali, a 30-year-old Baghdad resident and a member of Ansar al-Aghida, one of the Shiite militias fighting against ISIS. “Of course I would fight the Americans if they came for the oil.”
Trump’s comments risk relations with a key player in the US-led war against ISIS. Iraq is currently the primary US partner in the war against ISIS, with the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and members of the country’s various sectarian and ethnic communities fighting the jihadi group.
Sitting inside a small house used as a base for reporters covering the Popular Mobilization’s efforts against ISIS, some suggested seizing Iraqi’s oil would be counter-productive, noting that Iraq recently took a $5.3 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund in part to help pay for the war against ISIS.
Short of war, they said, Trump could use international institutions and courts to divert Iraq’s oil money to the US instead of outright seizing it. “They are the Great Satan,” said Ali, the Shiite fighter. “If they cooperate with the central government maybe they can succeed in taking the oil.”
But that, too, could backfire as Iraqis would likely respond by electing a hardliner like former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is considered close to Iran and is favored by Shiite armed groups close to Tehran, they said. Many critics say Maliki’s sectarian policies helped ISIS take root in Iraq’s Sunni communities.
“If they came with lawyers, maybe they could get away with taking our oil money with a weak person like Abadi, but if we have a strong person like Maliki, it wouldn’t work,” said Hussam Abdel-Wahed, 25, and a member of the Popular Mobilization’s media office.
“We will kick out all of the corrupted politicians,” said Abu Luay. “We now have a wide base and we will go to the ballot boxes. We will use bombs and explosives, and we’ll also go to the ballot boxes if that’s what it takes.”
..so in one speech he's nearly managed to get the Iraqis fighting against ISIS ready to team up with them.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Iraqis at this tiny outpost near the front lines of the ISIS battle warn that any attempt by the US to seize their oil would destabilize the country, and the region, and possibly undermine the war against ISIS he has described as a top priority.
“There’s no way Trump could take the oil unless he launched a new military front and it be a new world war,” said Kareem Kashekh, a photographer who works for the Popular Mobilization Units, a new branch of Iraq’s armed forces consisting of former militiamen and volunteers fighting against ISIS.
“He cannot do it. He cannot succeed,” said Dawoud Ali, a 30-year-old Baghdad resident and a member of Ansar al-Aghida, one of the Shiite militias fighting against ISIS. “Of course I would fight the Americans if they came for the oil.”
Trump’s comments risk relations with a key player in the US-led war against ISIS. Iraq is currently the primary US partner in the war against ISIS, with the democratically elected government of Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and members of the country’s various sectarian and ethnic communities fighting the jihadi group.
Sitting inside a small house used as a base for reporters covering the Popular Mobilization’s efforts against ISIS, some suggested seizing Iraqi’s oil would be counter-productive, noting that Iraq recently took a $5.3 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund in part to help pay for the war against ISIS.
Short of war, they said, Trump could use international institutions and courts to divert Iraq’s oil money to the US instead of outright seizing it. “They are the Great Satan,” said Ali, the Shiite fighter. “If they cooperate with the central government maybe they can succeed in taking the oil.”
But that, too, could backfire as Iraqis would likely respond by electing a hardliner like former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is considered close to Iran and is favored by Shiite armed groups close to Tehran, they said. Many critics say Maliki’s sectarian policies helped ISIS take root in Iraq’s Sunni communities.
“If they came with lawyers, maybe they could get away with taking our oil money with a weak person like Abadi, but if we have a strong person like Maliki, it wouldn’t work,” said Hussam Abdel-Wahed, 25, and a member of the Popular Mobilization’s media office.
“We will kick out all of the corrupted politicians,” said Abu Luay. “We now have a wide base and we will go to the ballot boxes. We will use bombs and explosives, and we’ll also go to the ballot boxes if that’s what it takes.”
..so in one speech he's nearly managed to get the Iraqis fighting against ISIS ready to team up with them.
Because no one learned a thing from the Bush presidency.
H.R.586 - To provide that human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization.
... and it begins.
Actually thats not off from current case law. The real issue is when life can can exist outside the womb. As technology advances the state's compelling interest in protecting the life of its citizenry will advance.
uh huh.
it's totally not outlawing abortion
fo'sure.
You misperceive my intent. Under SCOTUS, the state has a compelling state interest to protect human life. That interest begins to kick in when that life can effectively be carried outside the womb. Thats why the state can in fact ban the horror that is late term abortion, but cannot ban abortion per se. Once technology advances to the point where we can support an egg immediately (not far off I would think) then SCOTUS has a real deal to try to find further protection.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
You misperceive my intent. Under SCOTUS, the state has a compelling state interest to protect human life.
Hence the staunch defense of universal healthcare.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
You misperceive my intent. Under SCOTUS, the state has a compelling state interest to protect human life.
Hence the staunch defense of universal healthcare.
While I am fully in support of a Canadian or Swiss system, I don't understand your point.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
You misperceive my intent. Under SCOTUS, the state has a compelling state interest to protect human life.
Hence the staunch defense of universal healthcare.
While I am fully in support of a Canadian or Swiss system, I don't understand your point.
He means since the GOP is so in favor of defending human life. They do nothing for the people already alive and their heavy opposition to universal health care.
The GOP would probably do more to bring abortion down if they would focus on comprehensive welfare reform, especially on the state level, than abortion.