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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:36:34
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh nice still wish that trait on the character could be taken on multiple characters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:37:19
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Been Around the Block
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rvd1ofakind wrote:You can use multiple Forge Worlds, so you can just do some
Vanguard detachment Graia - and send dominus with a squad forward
Spearhead detachment Mars - and have cawl blasting from the backfield.
Just a thought, not sure if this is any good
If your already using separate detachments you might as well cherry pick forgeworlds to match them, depends on if the codex specifies that your entire army has to be from one Forge world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:45:34
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shoot it's only assault and rapid fire weapons too so park your warlord with some skitarii? Pass
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:48:36
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Galas wrote:So a 6+ FNP that only works with the last wound? Ok, that confirms that Forgeworld's Dogmas are gonna be weaker than chapter/legion tactics because they apply to everything in the army, including vehicles, knights, etc...
This seems like it's jumping to conclusions. It's entirely possible that they're just placing an inappropriately high value on the 6+ save against fleeing. Or maybe the thought process was just: "Robots and Dunecrawlers are already in a really good spot and don't need the help".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:53:36
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Yeah the problem is that you need to survive the charge, because you can't get within 1" then shoot.
In theory, good - assault 3 shooting with the enemy at -1 toughness is ok. But... what's charging 10 Skitarii and not killing them fairly quickly?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 15:58:08
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Silentz wrote:Yeah the problem is that you need to survive the charge, because you can't get within 1" then shoot.
In theory, good - assault 3 shooting with the enemy at -1 toughness is ok. But... what's charging 10 Skitarii and not killing them fairly quickly?
I think the idea is that you are the one charging. They're trying to push assault vanguard, which would be cool if it actually works but I'm not holding my breath for it.
Also, it's silly to say that FW tactics are going to be weaker than Chapter/Legion Tactics when this would still be far superior to the Black Legion tactics if it only worked on infantry period, lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:00:52
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Arachnofiend wrote: Silentz wrote:Yeah the problem is that you need to survive the charge, because you can't get within 1" then shoot.
In theory, good - assault 3 shooting with the enemy at -1 toughness is ok. But... what's charging 10 Skitarii and not killing them fairly quickly?
I think the idea is that you are the one charging. They're trying to push assault vanguard, which would be cool if it actually works but I'm not holding my breath for it.
that then assumes you survive two turns of combat. Before the shooting into combat is even an issue. Good idea on paper but that trait and the dogma needed to switch places
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:01:17
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I actually really like the potential fleeing bonus. It makes Rangers and Vanguard a little better at screening. That said I don't want them just screening because I liked using them offensively.
Still, not a bad bonus at all and the warlord trait is solid. Want to know what the specific Strategem is for them though.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:09:46
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Been Around the Block
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If I see those damn priests one more time...
GW, no one is going to buy those ugly ass models, no matter how much you try to buff them
This better be the last electro priest article
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:29:19
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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takonite wrote:If I see those damn priests one more time...
GW, no one is going to buy those ugly ass models, no matter how much you try to buff them
This better be the last electro priest article
I thought the 8th Edition rules improved them enough that I bought 10 Fulgarites. I've only played them in one game so far but they absolutely destroyed a unit of Necron Flayed Ones.
I like to keep them off the table at the start of the game. Since the most common tactic I see is keeping your gun line back most opponents try for a second or third turn charge into Onagers and Robots to stop their shooting. Fulgarites then coming on and counter-charging usually will make short work of the unit and then you have a unit of screeners with a 3++ save.
I then became intrigued with the Corpus Priests coming in late and shooting units in my backfield. I bought 10 of them but have not used them ii a game yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:34:13
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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How are you keeping the priests off?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:36:16
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Just leaving this here for my fellow Tech Priests who didn't get the news yet:
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40K: Adeptus Mechanicus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:43:12
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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That does literally nothing to address the issue at hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:46:54
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:48:41
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Are you talking about the HQ thing? If so, a bare-bones TPD is 135pt. A bare-bones TPE is 52pt.
That means we can actually take a second detachment without a huge tax or a battalion for that matter. It may not be what we wanted, but it doesn't hurt. I know I will be using it to enable a second detachment for sure, even if it is just me using him to pump wounds back into my vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:51:18
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 16:54:15
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
thats literally not important for anything mechanics wise and it's fluffy because the skitarii answer to the priesthood....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:04:16
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
Well, at least now the artwork on page 6 in the Skitarii codex makes some sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:04:54
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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gendoikari87 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
thats literally not important for anything mechanics wise and it's fluffy because the skitarii answer to the priesthood....
They also have their own lines of command that are the ones who answer to the Priest in charge of the overall force...but you would know that being such an avid fluff junkie, right?
So why is it that we can't have a Skitarii HQ? What possible reason is there for us NOT to have gotten one with the Codex?
I could have devised three or four units for the Skitarii side alone going off the way that they did the Primaris, yet GW couldn't?
The only, in my opinion, reasonable conclusion as to why is because of the whining that was made by people about how "we needed it all in one book!".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:04:57
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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On the one hand yay, cheaper secondary HQ, on the other hand he has no buff aura and can only repair vehicles. Better take a Dunecrawler or two if you want him to do anything other than be a tax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:08:12
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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changemod wrote:On the one hand yay, cheaper secondary HQ, on the other hand he has no buff aura and can only repair vehicles. Better take a Dunecrawler or two if you want him to do anything other than be a tax.
Kastellans are vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:08:33
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Aaranis wrote:Just leaving this here for my fellow Tech Priests who didn't get the news yet:
crap no cheap ones on ebay. i guess nobody ever bought them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:08:44
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
thats literally not important for anything mechanics wise and it's fluffy because the skitarii answer to the priesthood....
They also have their own lines of command that are the ones who answer to the Priest in charge of the overall force...but you would know that being such an avid fluff junkie, right?
So why is it that we can't have a Skitarii HQ? What possible reason is there for us NOT to have gotten one with the Codex?
I could have devised three or four units for the Skitarii side alone going off the way that they did the Primaris, yet GW couldn't?
The only, in my opinion, reasonable conclusion as to why is because of the whining that was made by people about how "we needed it all in one book!".
i mean they have squad leaders in the book already your just missing a mid level commander. Meh like just convert a tech priest
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:09:31
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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axisofentropy wrote: Aaranis wrote:Just leaving this here for my fellow Tech Priests who didn't get the news yet:
crap no cheap ones on ebay. i guess nobody ever bought them
Techpriest Enginseer 2 is still available in metal for $11. Automatically Appended Next Post: gendoikari87 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:gendoikari87 wrote:83 points could be the difference in taking an extra robot or dragoon if your into that thing
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't add a Skitarii HQ.
There's nothing that really is grabbing my attention outside of the Forge World perks. It's a wasted opportunity.
thats literally not important for anything mechanics wise and it's fluffy because the skitarii answer to the priesthood....
They also have their own lines of command that are the ones who answer to the Priest in charge of the overall force...but you would know that being such an avid fluff junkie, right?
So why is it that we can't have a Skitarii HQ? What possible reason is there for us NOT to have gotten one with the Codex?
I could have devised three or four units for the Skitarii side alone going off the way that they did the Primaris, yet GW couldn't?
The only, in my opinion, reasonable conclusion as to why is because of the whining that was made by people about how "we needed it all in one book!".
i mean they have squad leaders in the book already your just missing a mid level commander. Meh
Actually, you're missing more than a "midlevel commander". You're missing what would effectively be the Skitarii equivalent to a "Company Commander".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:11:11
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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HQ's models for 10-16€... I wish we could go back to that time...
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:14:13
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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axisofentropy wrote: Aaranis wrote:Just leaving this here for my fellow Tech Priests who didn't get the news yet:
crap no cheap ones on ebay. i guess nobody ever bought them
He's not that expensive...
Galas wrote:HQ's models for 10-16€... I wish we could go back to that time...
10,50€ ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:17:33
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Regular Dakkanaut
Washington State
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I hope the Tech Priest keeps the Astra Militarum keyword, would be nice for an extra HQ option for Guard,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:18:17
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:20:25
Subject: Re:Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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em_en_oh_pee wrote:changemod wrote:On the one hand yay, cheaper secondary HQ, on the other hand he has no buff aura and can only repair vehicles. Better take a Dunecrawler or two if you want him to do anything other than be a tax.
Kastellans are vehicles. 
Well, there'a that at least! But in that case, why not just stick Datasmiths in the HQ slot too?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/12 17:26:26
Subject: Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus (8th Edition) - WD Pics + Preorders
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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necrontyrOG wrote:I hope the Tech Priest keeps the Astra Militarum keyword, would be nice for an extra HQ option for Guard,
Or you know, we could always just put him into the Astra Militarum book...
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