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 Cheesecat wrote:
That's a good in universe explanation for the topless lads, with pecs being able to distract the enemy being a close second.


Not just topless, Cheesecat. Rogue sport skin-tight leggings, too
   
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and it has Lemmy doing an acting turn as a taxi driver,

classic stuff

 
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope. But they have superior reflexes and healing ability.

Main reason for the lack of armour is that to take out Norts, you just cut their respirator tubes.

Bulky armour stops you being stealthy.


Are bullet proof vests that bulky? Do they impede stealth significantly? I've never worn one. It's a neat visual having topless super soldiers, I'll give them that, even if it doesn't make much sense to me (atm).


Interesting note - Rogue is one of the few of his kind that ditched the vests. He does so for a few reasons:
1) NuEarth kills millons via bio, chemical, and viral weapons. You are actually unlikely to die by a mere bullet
2) 'Normal' humans are walking around in NBC suits. Most who die form getting 'shot' die because the atmosphere kills them horribly in seconds
3) Rogue has a death wish. He doesn't back down from his mission, but he really doesn't expect to complete it - or have a plan on what to do afterwards. In the comics he seems almost lost after nailing the traitor once and for all

Most Importantly:
4) Rogue is an unapologetic romanticized take on Vietnam war soldiers, who often wore either nothing or the bare flak vest when they can
and of course:
5) So you can see how blue he is and that he doesn't fear the toxic environment - he's a part of it as much as the living razorwire plants that sneak up and barbwire strangle you in your sleep.

Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.


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I would also like to add that comic books are often real dumb. Dont dig too deep. It always gets stupid.


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*really stupid*

That he wore a vest wound up being an excuse to introduce Venus Bluegene's as well... The female G.I.s choice of uniform improved in later instalments.

In the issue set on Nu Earth's moon (because of course there's an issue set on the moon), Rogue encounters Nort G.Is who are pretty much fully clothed.That was a good issue for its opening, where Rogue comes across a monument to Nu Earth's founding - with an insignia which looks like a cross between the Nort and Souther symbols and the slogan, "We came in peace, for all mankind. This time we'll do it right". Oh bother.

Hopefully Jaegir will show more of an early-war Nu Earth. In that Nu Earth can be remembered as not being as much of a hell hole within the main character's lifetime (they're experimenting with potential chemical weapons in a flashback). In the original run I remember there being characters who had escaped the chem clouds by slowly retreating up a mountain, though one has to wonder what happened to the populations of all those mega cities on Nu Earth.

There's always that one shot from the perspective of one of the other G.I.s which had a spinoff. He's remembering his time on Nu Earth inside some Souther medical centre. At the end of the flashbacks he goes outside the centre, with the doctor being un-helmeted, to reveal blue skies and rows of graves. That was a nice close for that character, who kind of dropped off after his initial run (like most of these characters, they wind up ending their runs as though they expect another series, so don't really conclude in a meaningful way. ...Or if they do some git comes along and decides to restart them again. Looking at you Chopper).
   
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Venus did get a badass suit of power armour somewhere along the way, complete with enough explosives built in to even make the traitor general think twice about killing her.

I do like that later stories focus less on Rogue and more on those around him. A massive Nort tank that is trying to stop him, but he.. Just. Keeps. Coming. Really cements the whole myth surrounding an unstoppable blue murder machine.



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It was a real shame that the 86'ers got ditched (Rag-tag-fighter-squadron-IN-SPAAAACE) because the creator got angry that they did some spin-off novels without him, because Raphe was an interesting character.
   
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The '86ers had a similar issue to the later Rogue Trooper strips. The need to sideline the war between the Norts and Southers for some bigger bad. We don't need some big alien empire showing up to have everyone unite. Just let the two sides fight. At least Jaegir expanded the series out to the other planets that the two sides were fighting on, but yes, the 86ers did give more detail on some of the politics too.

Reminds me a bit of the Star Wars spinoffs. Where there apparently wasn't enough story with the Force, Rebels and the Empire, so they went ahead and had an alien empire invade too. It was also dumb.
   
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Isn't that why the traitor general turned traitor though? Because of the alien threat?



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And, that doesn't stop the clause that when you introduce a bigger alien menace to your existing space war, it becomes stupid. The Empire's already the big bad. They don't need an even bigger bad coming along to emasculate them and detract from the whole balancing the Force plot. Aliens that suck out your soul don't exist in the same universe as Alec Guinness.

Off the top of my head the only series to pull it off was Old Man's War. ...Where the great alien "threat" is a Galactic UN/ Federation being formed to stop all the alien races committing horrible genocide on each other (and as humanity, the protagonists, were finding that they were good at the whole being complete monsters thing, the Federation becomes the "bad guys").
   
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 BrookM wrote:
Isn't that why the traitor general turned traitor though? Because of the alien threat?


Orignally it was because he could make himself rich and pwoerful by playing both sides off each other. He was an original archtype of a war profiteer, in fitting with the whole 'Vietnam war - war is hell' theme. It worked because it meant that both sides wanted to kill the tratior but would also deal with him - except for Rogue, who was Denzel Washington'ing his way up the chain of command to get the bastard.

Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.


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The official 2000AD announcement: https://2000ad.com/post/3755

Acclaimed filmmaker Duncan Jones is to bring Rogue Trooper, a character from the legendary award-winning British comic book 2000 AD, to the big screen.

It will see the critically-lauded director of Moon, Source Code, Warcraft and Mute write and direct the as-yet-unnamed picture.

Jones confirmed the new joint venture between Liberty Films and Rebellion, the Oxford-based games publishers and owners of 2000 AD, on his Twitter account today.

“For years now, I have felt a sting as Marvel and DC have poured out their entire comic roster into film. Wonderful for their fans, but every new release I silently scream “Where’s all the 2000 AD?!” I'm so excited to finally be able to right that wrong and bring Finley-Day and Gibbons’ Rogue Trooper, a seminal British spun war yarn, to the big screen!" said Jones.

Jason Kingsley, CEO and Creative Director of Rebellion, said: “Rogue Trooper has always been one of my favourite old school thrills from 2000 AD. I’m very happy to be working closely with Duncan and Stuart on this project and look forward to seeing the results on the silver screen.”

Chris Kingsley, Co-founder and CTO of Rebellion, said: “The first time I met Duncan he had a Mohawk – I’m tickled pink to see he’s now brought it back with a full-on Nu blue. It shows his unique level of commitment and passion for Rogue Trooper, and that’s why we’re so excited to be working with him and his legions.”

The deal was negotiated by producer Stuart Fenegan and Rebellion’s Jason Kingsley. Fenegan will produce the film under his and Jones’ Liberty Films banner, Jason Kingsley and Chris Kingsley will Executive Produce.

Fenegan said: “Eat leaden death Nort scum!”

Rogue Trooper is one of the greatest characters to come out of 2000 AD, which also publishes characters such as Judge Dredd, Nemesis the Warlock, and Strontium Dog. Created by Gerry Finley-Day and Dave Gibbons, Rogue Trooper is a genetically-engineered soldier bred to fight on Nu-Earth, a hellish planet consumed by an endless war between the Norts and the Southers. The sole survivor of a massacre that claimed his fellow GIs, Rogue sets out on a mission to find the traitor who betrayed them – the personalities of three dead comrades plugged into his helmet, backpack, and rifle.

Jones is one of a generation of leading British film directors who have been inspired by the satirical, anti-establishment and hyper-violent comic strips in 2000 AD. First published in 1977, 2000 AD has been at the cutting edge of British culture for four decades and continues to publish ground-breaking science fiction, fantasy, and horror comics.



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They're also having a sale, 50% off Rogue Trooper stuff: https://2000ad.com/post/3785

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Damn. There went my wallet.

Bender wrote:* Realise that despite the way people talk, this is not a professional sport played by demi gods, but rather a game of toy soldiers played by tired, inebriated human beings.


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