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 MangoMadness wrote:
I heard that Mekboy Bell-Crawl was making Bigga-Mega Orks for the Ork Overlord Urrlak Urruk circa the Great Crusade but he was trapped in his own coffee machine bubble chukker for the last 10,000 years.

The bubble has now burst and now Bigga-Mega Orks have been released to Waaaah in the 41st millenium

Savage! But so, sooo correct.

If you ever need a summary of Dark Imperium this guy got you covered!

I dislike the faces on the Ironjawz. Don't know exactly what it is but they strike me as more "bat-like" rather than our Orks that are more "piggish". The model poses and such are fantastic though lack dynamism for me. Why they are so static is beyond me.

Hopefully Big Gunz are gone, they're fething awful models and don't really have a place in the game anymore.

Aww, but I just got a bunch of parts to scratch build some lobbas!

 insaniak wrote:

 Snord wrote:
Which Ork models are leftovers from GorkaMorka?

The buggy and wartrakk would be the last of them... and the wartrakk may have actually been a 2nd ed 40K release, I don't recall for sure. Other than those, there were a runtherd, mek and doc which I think would have been the last holdouts before all the metals were dumped, but they're long gone now.

They still sell Dregmek Blitzkart.

Yea I was trying to remember the Deff Kopta's name. I knew he was a character from then. Great shout.

The old buggies looked good, it was the drivers that were a bit rubbish imo. But the new kit looks pretty sick as well.

I'm looking forward to Primaris Orks or whatever they will be called. I love the current Ork Boyz models, so having the new bigger Orks be a separate thing will be perfect.
Orks react to warp energy, so the opening of the great rift can easily be explained causing some sort of apotheosis amongst the Orks.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Hopefully Big Gunz are gone, they're fething awful models and don't really have a place in the game anymore.

I don't hope for that, though they really need new models. I'm sure GW knows this, and so may remove them for that reason, making them battlewagon only. Still I would welcome their return as artillery pieces as they are really useful in the game, way better than the not so good (too random) mek gunz we got last time.

Or they may stay, time will tell. I have plenty of them and still use them time to time.

I'd also hate to see Big Gunz go as an Ork (Grot) unit, but agree the models need updating badly. (Although the current model is very easy to buy cheap alternatives for!) Don't think there is anything much more Orky when it comes to tactics than:

'Oi you little runtz, stay bak outta way and Dakka dem humies, we Orks go and do propa krumpin n killin up close!'

I just scratch build big/mek gunz out of spare parts, no need to buy the overpriced stuff.

I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

I rather have proper kits for both commandoz & tank bustaz, or one that builds either of them, over bigger orkz

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

They just look cool as all large models on the table do. You feel more accomplished painting since you only have 1 unit to do vs 30 boys. Plus even though they aren't usually as effective it's pretty scary to have to fight through multiple large models. My brother loves running carnifexes and even though they aren't super efficient the table always looks action packed.

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

Because big things are cool, even if they are impractical. That's an old stable of fiction.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

Because big things are cool, even if they are impractical. That's an old stable of fiction.

It's also a staple of Ork mentality "Bigga is better!".

It's not so much about having larger models per-se, but the reason we want a bigger Warboss is because the current models are pretty puny compared to how they're described in the fluff. When there's these beasts like Magnus and Mortarion knocking about, or even Girlyman, who all look they could pick up our current Warboss model by the scruff of the neck and drop-kick them across the table, it makes me feel sad breaks immersion. It also makes me think that my army is not a credible threat. Orks should be scary. Funny too. But also scary. This should be represented by their models.

The beastly "Banner" Ork we've all been speculating about in the background of that pic is exactly what our bosses should look like, at least in my mind. Imposing, menacing and jacked. Like they could actually take on a Primarch and at least make them sweat rather than get punted across the room.

i'm fine with our boyz not getting a size increase but our Bosses should definitely get bigger.
The current ones are barely bigger at all. Just big enough to be easily noticeable that its a larger ork model than usual.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I just scratch build big/mek gunz out of spare parts, no need to buy the overpriced stuff.

Exactly plus it is alot of fun making stuff.

The best thing about the GW official ones are the grots, they have alot of character.

Indeed. I scrounged my grots off a Stompa.

I don't know why, but the "boss" vehicle ya'll are speculating on for some reason reminds me of Lord Humungus's vehicle from Road Warrior:

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

GW wants to brainwash people into thinking bigger is better. I visited the local GW last week and spotted the mound of plastic which is called GUO. It costs 110 Euro (220 DM). Mine costed 30 DM and is slightly bigger than a Terminator. Needless to say I will never buy the new kit.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

GW wants to brainwash people into thinking bigger is better. I visited the local GW last week and spotted the mound of plastic which is called GUO. It costs 110 Euro (220 DM). Mine costed 30 DM and is slightly bigger than a Terminator. Needless to say I will never buy the new kit.

I second this opinion.
Same here with my Keeper of Secrets.
Well no plastic yet for them, but still...

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Nazrak wrote:
I really don’t get why everyone’s obsessed with wanting models getting bigger. Eventually you run out of space or need a bigger table.

GW wants to brainwash people into thinking bigger is better. I visited the local GW last week and spotted the mound of plastic which is called GUO. It costs 110 Euro (220 DM). Mine costed 30 DM and is slightly bigger than a Terminator. Needless to say I will never buy the new kit.

I thought Alex Jones was banned from the internet.

I like big centerpiece models just fine, as long as they're not stupidly overgunned. But basic units should be on 25mms.

Paid about 65€ for my GUO online, btw.

The only person who can truly emulate Nelson is/was Seb Perpet, each of his models was fantastic, as has been said, those not sculpted by either of those eguys have been a bit hit or miss, especially the painboss.

Why people even compare ork physiology with humans and if it differs from humans it's wrong? They aren't humans. They are orks. Who says every alien has same proportions as humans? Previously shown gorilla picture seems quite fitting.

No one is saying that. If you actually read what has been said, it’s that the anatomy of the Orruks is different to that of Orks, which makes mixing and matching iffy.

Ironjawz really do not have human physiology either, they're like gorillas too, just less cartoony. I want Orks like that. When I say this I don't mean normal boys should be that big, merely the proportions. Ironjawz brute size is good for nobs.

 Crimson wrote:
Ironjawz really do not have human physiology either, they're like gorillas too, just less cartoony. I want Orks like that. When I say this I don't mean normal boys should be that big, merely the proportions. Ironjawz brute size is good for nobs.

Also would be a good size for Skarboyz.

 Crimson wrote:
Ironjawz really do not have human physiology either, they're like gorillas too, just less cartoony. I want Orks like that. When I say this I don't mean normal boys should be that big, merely the proportions. Ironjawz brute size is good for nobs.

They don't look like gorillas at all, IMHO, save for (a tiny little bit) on the face. The rest? They're basically the Hulk, no gorilla there at all.

The difference is specially clear when comparing the old Black orcs (Ardboyz or whatever) with the new ones from the Ironskull's Boyz box:

https://www.games-workshop.com/es-ES/Ironjawz-Orruk-Ardboys

https://www.games-workshop.com/es-ES/Etb-Ironjawz-Ironskulls-Boyz-2018

The new ones are basically built like the orcs from the WoW movie.

The old orks do not look like any real living creature, they look like they're from a cartoon.

 Crimson wrote:
The old orks do not look like any real living creature, they look like they're from a cartoon.

And so do the ironjawz, only completely upright and much wider. Less interesting anatomy, IMHO, and more boring "brickhouse superhero", but cartoon nonetheless.

That yellow paint job is so awful looking on fantasy orks.