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My local redshirt said first ork pre-orders begin the 13th but not sure what.

I mean, I don't care that much either, but don't play with my emotions like this. Either it's Orktober or it's not. Me sitting here expecting a flood of awesome Ork stuff today because GW implicitly stated it makes me a grumpy consumer.

 Lord Perversor wrote:
My local redshirt said first ork pre-orders begin the 13th but not sure what.

We already know the pre-orders for the 13th.

Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

 Redemption wrote:
A new lore article is up about the Brain Boys:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/09/grim-dark-corners-the-brainboyzgw-homepage-post-3/

It's something about Orks at least.

Hmm thought they might have mentioned the books 'Ere we go, Freebooterz etc...

It's a pretty thin article to be honest...

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

Is that why Orktober happened? I'm not in the loop.

So Speed Freeks only comes with two of the buggies previewed, right?

Mr.Church13 wrote:
So Speed Freeks only comes with two of the buggies previewed, right?

Yes

 matphat wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

Is that why Orktober happened? I'm not in the loop.

Not to my knowledge, I am just saying that the leaks definitely revealed a lot of their cards early and kind of forced them to do reveals last month. That HAS to have an impact on this months release. Just like how the slaanesh stuff being leaked is gona mean less to preview when they hit. So while I definitely can sympathize with folks frustration, I refuse to blame GW here. Had the leaks never occurred we would be seeing those buggies for the first time over the next few weeks instead of waiting on nothing but a few fluff articles and comic strips.

 ceorron wrote:

Mr.Church13 wrote:
So Speed Freeks only comes with two of the buggies previewed, right?

Yes

We don't actually know this for sure as there might be some shared kits going on.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 matphat wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

Is that why Orktober happened? I'm not in the loop.

Not to my knowledge, I am just saying that the leaks definitely revealed a lot of their cards early and kind of forced them to do reveals last month. That HAS to have an impact on this months release. Just like how the slaanesh stuff being leaked is gona mean less to preview when they hit. So while I definitely can sympathize with folks frustration, I refuse to blame GW here. Had the leaks never occurred we would be seeing those buggies for the first time over the next few weeks instead of waiting on nothing but a few fluff articles and comic strips.

Exactly my thoughts.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

Speed Freeks only spoiled two buggies (and barely), one of which they then previewed with a video (the Boosta Blasta).

There was still the Dragster, Snazzwagon, Boss on Trike and Scrapjet, all of which GW have now previewed, 3 of which (Dragster, Snazzwagon and Trike) GW decided to preview before "Orktober" began. The only remaining vehicle is the rumoured Rukkatrukk Squig Buggy for which they did a "who's that pokemon?" style thing then haven't followed it up since. The Scrapjet has been the only actual preview of a new thing for Orks since Orktober began. There's been no rules previews. No Speed Freek gameplay previews. No previews of any other models.

No one forced GW to release the Dragster, Snazzwagon and Trikeboss before Orktober. No one forced GW to call the month "Orktober" or to claim that there would be a ton of stuff that hasn't materialised. Basically, if what you've said is true using the analogy of dessert before dinner, perhaps GW shouldn't have claimed that there's an even bigger, better desert to come when there wasn't?

E - emphasis for how GW could've handled this better.

Xis wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
I'm not sure where the "Orktober" rumors came from besides people speculating that's what GW was going to do.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/02/2nd-orkt-revving-up-for-orktober-on-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/

“Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you.”

(Personally I don’t care that much if the ork stuff comes out in November, but it is pretty akward of GW to declare #Orktober and then not release anything until almost November).

Now i'm not native english speaker but fairly sure news and articles doesn't equal models


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 Lord Perversor wrote:
My local redshirt said first ork pre-orders begin the 13th but not sure what.

Already shown false by gw itseif

An Actual Englishman
Speed freaks was leaked early which snowballed all this. GW probably used their brains here and figured whoever had access to take those pics probably had access to the other buggies and figured it was better to control the previews themselves rather then continue to play damage control.

It makes them look bad to investors and share holders when they have a big release spoiled by leaks from some shmuck with a cell phone. It makes way more sense for them to retake the reigns here like they did. My guess is the squig car is literally the last kit Orks get, so thank the guys that spoiled Oktoberfest by leaking the photos. But acting like it's GW's fault is ridiculous. They have a lot on their plate beyond Orks, there are still other factions yet to have a book and most that already released didn't receive 6 vehicle kits either.

I remember waiting 12 years for a dark eldar update lol, as if a couple weeks is really that big a deal. It will come and go in no time, I would be more concerned with quality/play-ability then a few more days wait but that's just me.

tneva82 wrote:

 Lord Perversor wrote:
My local redshirt said first ork pre-orders begin the 13th but not sure what.

Already shown false by gw itseif

Unless they consider the ork commander for Kill Team the first Ork release! Admittedly it is a bit of a stretch, but hey it is something ork related that will have pre-orders on the 13th. Seems like typical GW logic...

To be clear, are Ork player complaining because they only got a fluff article so far today?

 ChargerIIC wrote:
To be clear, are Ork player complaining because they only got a fluff article so far today?

And that earliest in store day is 27 with codex almost quaranteed next month which albeit is slightly irritating if you have megabattle on 27th like me.

 ChargerIIC wrote:
To be clear, are Ork player complaining because they only got a fluff article so far today?

No they are mad because all we have gotten rumor wise since the start of "Orktober" is the silhouette of a vehicle.

tneva82 wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
I'm happy with Blood Axes. 18% more command points is decent, whether farming or no.

Hopefully we'll get some good strats to spend them on.

Due to the new CP rules, you can get a maximum of 1 CP per battleround out of it.

18% is 1 per 5.5. If he assumes games go 5 OR 6 turns 50-50 then that's actually spot on average if you assume you get 1 per turn. Maybe he meant that. Or his group doesn't play with BETA rules.

No...I was just thinking wording of the trait prevented the CP from being spent in the first place, rather than getting it back afterwards. It seems that if they worded it the first way, you could net multiple points per turn, if you rolled the sixes.

After re-reading it, Jidmah is probably right and this trait will be counted as "getting a CP back", and thus be limited to 1 per turn.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
A new lore article is up about the Brain Boys:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/09/grim-dark-corners-the-brainboyzgw-homepage-post-3/

It's something about Orks at least.

Hmm thought they might have mentioned the books 'Ere we go, Freebooterz etc...

I have a small hope that after they re-printed Rogue Trader they might re-release 'Ere We Go, Freebooterz and Waaargh! The Orks, even if only as e-books. Lots of fun stuff in those old books.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
A new lore article is up about the Brain Boys:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/09/grim-dark-corners-the-brainboyzgw-homepage-post-3/

It's something about Orks at least.

Hmm thought they might have mentioned the books 'Ere we go, Freebooterz etc...

How much about brainboyz there was in those book? If they covered other aspects without adding more to brainboyz than was said not surprising they didn#t get mention here.

And agreed on above poster about reprint!

Basically as soon as the codex was announced I stopped playing, because I was tired of either losing with my Dread Mob or winning occasionally by drowning the table in models. I thought hey, it's only a month, I'll start again in October when the AC in the store can keep up with the gamer smell anyway. Now it looks like it will be the end of the month, or later, for the codex, and then at least a week to figure it out and make a decent list.

I feel like they didn't respect me as a customer by implying something and then not delivering. Certainly not the first time GW has done that. And certainly not the only company to do that. (*cough EA TimeWarner Apple *cough). Of course, I will still by the codex, and go back to playing my Orks even if they aren't as good as I hope them to be. But, it's disappointing, and feels like it was handled poorly. Not dramatically so, more in the vein of "typical."

 Red Corsair wrote:
They have a lot on their plate beyond Orks, there are still other factions yet to have a book and most that already released didn't receive 6 vehicle kits either.

oh, boo hoo. GW is soooo tired, we ought a let them rest.
if GW is soooo busy then its because they brought it upon themselves.
after 8th dropped and they said everyone was going to get codexes then everyone assumed that was the main goal. but after a flurry of codex releases (and one for a new faction that barely no one was expecting) they then go on hiatus from the main goal to release a bunch of unrelated games.
everyone was asking for a codex. the only big voice in the fanbase asking for anything else was those who heard relaible rumors titanicus was being released eventually and thus wanted that to come out. GW didn't have to release every boxed game under the sun before finishing out the rest of the 8th edition codexs, but they decided to halt all of that just to cover small markets instead of their largest market of patiently waiting customers.
if someone leaked ork stuff early then it was a "shot in the arm" to GW to finally do what they had promised. they needed to release the ork codex. us ork players were more then happy with just a codex (and maybe a new ghaz), and once they announced all the new and cool models we were more grateful (though there is an valid argument for whats going to happen to all our HQ options).
all GW needed to release our codex, what they didn't need to do was go and call this month "orktober" and then say stuff like "we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content " or "Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day".
the expectation GW had set up for themselves was that they had to just keep posting an ork related article everyday to keep their word. they missed one day and we figured something bigger was coming out the next. they missed 2 and then we assumed a preorder was coming out later. they miss 3 and then anounce a preorder for another game system and we are not going to be quiet when GW breaks their word.
if GW said absolutely nothing except that the ork codex was coming out on plain old normal named october then we wouldst have a leg to stand on. but since they've talked this whole month up and are insistent of putting out other games that very few were waiting for then not keep their word about ork articles then they deserve all the the negative backlash.
they are not Innocent or are they pitiable,they brought it upon themselves,

Bohoo. Players decide on themselves what GW words mean and GW is fault for that? No. That's on players 100% fair and square.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys it didn't help that speed freaks and the buggies were leaked forcing GW to spoil the release early. My guess is Orktober was meant to be just that, where they leak the buggies every couple of days along with these fun articles. I don't think it is awkward for them at all. Gamers got their dessert before dinner now they are complaining that the cake is half eaten. If you want early spoilers then you have to realize they are just that, spoilers.

I whole-heatedly agree. People just need to be adults and stop whining. If this stuff is going to be in their hands in less than two weeks time, then why sit here and whine about it? Occupy your time with something else, and before you know it, your toys will arrive.


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geargutz wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
They have a lot on their plate beyond Orks, there are still other factions yet to have a book and most that already released didn't receive 6 vehicle kits either.

oh, boo hoo. GW is soooo tired, we ought a let them rest.
if GW is soooo busy then its because they brought it upon themselves.
after 8th dropped and they said everyone was going to get codexes then everyone assumed that was the main goal. but after a flurry of codex releases (and one for a new faction that barely no one was expecting) they then go on hiatus from the main goal to release a bunch of unrelated games.
everyone was asking for a codex. the only big voice in the fanbase asking for anything else was those who heard relaible rumors titanicus was being released eventually and thus wanted that to come out. GW didn't have to release every boxed game under the sun before finishing out the rest of the 8th edition codexs, but they decided to halt all of that just to cover small markets instead of their largest market of patiently waiting customers.
if someone leaked ork stuff early then it was a "shot in the arm" to GW to finally do what they had promised. they needed to release the ork codex. us ork players were more then happy with just a codex (and maybe a new ghaz), and once they announced all the new and cool models we were more grateful (though there is an valid argument for whats going to happen to all our HQ options).
all GW needed to release our codex, what they didn't need to do was go and call this month "orktober" and then say stuff like "we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content " or "Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day".
the expectation GW had set up for themselves was that they had to just keep posting an ork related article everyday to keep their word. they missed one day and we figured something bigger was coming out the next. they missed 2 and then we assumed a preorder was coming out later. they miss 3 and then anounce a preorder for another game system and we are not going to be quiet when GW breaks their word.
if GW said absolutely nothing except that the ork codex was coming out on plain old normal named october then we wouldst have a leg to stand on. but since they've talked this whole month up and are insistent of putting out other games that very few were waiting for then not keep their word about ork articles then they deserve all the the negative backlash.
they are not Innocent or are they pitiable,they brought it upon themselves,

Your precious little toys will be out soon. Then you can come back and complain about how bad the codex is and how you still won't be top tier.


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 beerbeard wrote:
Basically as soon as the codex was announced I stopped playing, because I was tired of either losing with my Dread Mob or winning occasionally by drowning the table in models. I thought hey, it's only a month, I'll start again in October when the AC in the store can keep up with the gamer smell anyway. Now it looks like it will be the end of the month, or later, for the codex, and then at least a week to figure it out and make a decent list.

I feel like they didn't respect me as a customer by implying something and then not delivering. Certainly not the first time GW has done that. And certainly not the only company to do that. (*cough EA TimeWarner Apple *cough). Of course, I will still by the codex, and go back to playing my Orks even if they aren't as good as I hope them to be. But, it's disappointing, and feels like it was handled poorly. Not dramatically so, more in the vein of "typical."

Good god dude we are 9 days into a month with 30 days in it, and we have a confirmed release in less than 5 days for preorders. Removed - BrookM

 beerbeard wrote:
Basically as soon as the codex was announced I stopped playing, because I was tired of either losing with my Dread Mob or winning occasionally by drowning the table in models. I thought hey, it's only a month, I'll start again in October when the AC in the store can keep up with the gamer smell anyway. Now it looks like it will be the end of the month, or later, for the codex, and then at least a week to figure it out and make a decent list.

I feel like they didn't respect me as a customer by implying something and then not delivering. Certainly not the first time GW has done that. And certainly not the only company to do that. (*cough EA TimeWarner Apple *cough). Of course, I will still by the codex, and go back to playing my Orks even if they aren't as good as I hope them to be. But, it's disappointing, and feels like it was handled poorly. Not dramatically so, more in the vein of "typical."

They implied it was coming a ways out, I know, I'm waiting for the book after that and not expecting it till Christmas. Mind, even that isn't confirmed, it's just in line after orks and I'm spitballing. Perfectly wiling to wait if it means more models are coming with it.

tneva82 wrote:
Bohoo. Players decide on themselves what GW words mean and GW is fault for that? No. That's on players 100% fair and square.

There is no misinterpretation of what GW has stated. GW has simply not delivered. Stop white knighting.

 Red Corsair wrote:
An Actual Englishman
Speed freaks was leaked early which snowballed all this. GW probably used their brains here and figured whoever had access to take those pics probably had access to the other buggies and figured it was better to control the previews themselves rather then continue to play damage control.

It makes them look bad to investors and share holders when they have a big release spoiled by leaks from some shmuck with a cell phone. It makes way more sense for them to retake the reigns here like they did. My guess is the squig car is literally the last kit Orks get, so thank the guys that spoiled Oktoberfest by leaking the photos. But acting like it's GW's fault is ridiculous. They have a lot on their plate beyond Orks, there are still other factions yet to have a book and most that already released didn't receive 6 vehicle kits either.

I remember waiting 12 years for a dark eldar update lol, as if a couple weeks is really that big a deal. It will come and go in no time, I would be more concerned with quality/play-ability then a few more days wait but that's just me.

Why not quote? I missed this because of your weird formatting.

Bizarre speculation on your part aside (for what possible reason do you think the person who took the potato images of Speed Freeks had access to any other buggies?! Have you seen the pictures? They're awful - go look at them now at the start of the thread!), GW are the ones who decided to name a month Orktober. They are the ones who decided to tell Ork customers that the long wait would soon be over, that there would be a full month of exciting content and that they should check back every day so as to not miss anything. That the wait was for ALL the good stuff we'd be getting in October. It looks like we aren't getting anything until October 27th at the earliest. See the problem in terms of what GW say and what they do and why that upsets some of the player base? Explain how this is anyone's fault but GWs? They could have just said nothing. The leaker only had access to Speed Freeks and they could have shut them down. They didn't have to release other information like the Warboss on Trike or all the other models so early. Your reasoning is some of the most random, reaching and incorrect I've ever read.

What other factions are "yet to have a book"? There aren't any apart from GSC and Sisters (who are getting a pseudo book in CA which drops in December). Say Imperial Agents, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Ynarri or Inquisition. I dare you.

As an Ork only player, I'm not happy to be the last main faction to get a codex. I was getting frustrated to the point of 'taking a break from the game' until Speed Freeks was leaked and Orktober announced. That built up a lot of hype and interest, particularly as an Evil Sunz player. Since Orktober started all GW have done is fail to deliver. In fact they technically failed before Orktober started but I won't go in to the minutiae here. We've had as many full leaks for new Slaanesh models as we have Ork models. In the month GW decided to name "Orktober". It's ludicrous and it's turning a lot of Ork players off the hobby. I will play regardless and will of course wait. I don't think it's the end of the world and I'm not particularly vocal on social media. But I don't blame those players who are now bitter. This is the gak cherry on top of a gak cake that is the previous editions treatment of Orks, by GW.

 Togusa wrote:
Good god dude we are 9 days into a month with 30 days in it, and we have a confirmed release in less than 5 days for preorders. Removed - BrookM

What? What 'confirmed release in less than 5 days for preorders'? You realise there's no 40k Ork preorders until 20th at the earliest and it isn't yet announced right? That what you seem to imply above is completely wrong?

100% believe any potato quality "leaks" are not leaks. Nobody takes pictures that horribly anymore, you have to actually try to get a smartphone to take a pic that bad these days.
GW does them on purpose. It happens simply way, WAAAAY too often to not be done on purpose.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Bohoo. Players decide on themselves what GW words mean and GW is fault for that? No. That's on players 100% fair and square.

There is no misinterpretation of what GW has stated. GW has simply not delivered. Stop white knighting.

 Red Corsair wrote:
An Actual Englishman
Speed freaks was leaked early which snowballed all this. GW probably used their brains here and figured whoever had access to take those pics probably had access to the other buggies and figured it was better to control the previews themselves rather then continue to play damage control.

It makes them look bad to investors and share holders when they have a big release spoiled by leaks from some shmuck with a cell phone. It makes way more sense for them to retake the reigns here like they did. My guess is the squig car is literally the last kit Orks get, so thank the guys that spoiled Oktoberfest by leaking the photos. But acting like it's GW's fault is ridiculous. They have a lot on their plate beyond Orks, there are still other factions yet to have a book and most that already released didn't receive 6 vehicle kits either.

I remember waiting 12 years for a dark eldar update lol, as if a couple weeks is really that big a deal. It will come and go in no time, I would be more concerned with quality/play-ability then a few more days wait but that's just me.

Why not quote? I missed this because of your weird formatting.

Bizarre speculation on your part aside (for what possible reason do you think the person who took the potato images of Speed Freeks had access to any other buggies?! Have you seen the pictures? They're awful - go look at them now at the start of the thread!), GW are the ones who decided to name a month Orktober. They are the ones who decided to tell Ork customers that the long wait would soon be over, that there would be a full month of exciting content and that they should check back every day so as to not miss anything. That the wait was for ALL the good stuff we'd be getting in October. It looks like we aren't getting anything until October 27th at the earliest. See the problem in terms of what GW say and what they do and why that upsets some of the player base? Explain how this is anyone's fault but GWs? They could have just said nothing. The leaker only had access to Speed Freeks and they could have shut them down. They didn't have to release other information like the Warboss on Trike or all the other models so early. Your reasoning is some of the most random, reaching and incorrect I've ever read.

What other factions are "yet to have a book"? There aren't any apart from GSC and Sisters (who are getting a pseudo book in CA which drops in December). Say Imperial Agents, Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Ynarri or Inquisition. I dare you.

As an Ork only player, I'm not happy to be the last main faction to get a codex. I was getting frustrated to the point of 'taking a break from the game' until Speed Freeks was leaked and Orktober announced. That built up a lot of hype and interest, particularly as an Evil Sunz player. Since Orktober started all GW have done is fail to deliver. In fact they technically failed before Orktober started but I won't go in to the minutiae here. We've had as many full leaks for new Slaanesh models as we have Ork models. In the month GW decided to name "Orktober". It's ludicrous and it's turning a lot of Ork players off the hobby. I will play regardless and will of course wait. I don't think it's the end of the world and I'm not particularly vocal on social media. But I don't blame those players who are now bitter. This is the gak cherry on top of a gak cake that is the previous editions treatment of Orks, by GW.

You're being overly dramatic about this aren't you? We are LITERALLY 9 days into this month. For all you know there will be an article that goes live on Thursday that announces 7 new plastic kits for this army including 2 new character kits. NINE DAYS dude. Chill out.