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Maryland, US

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 nflagey wrote:
Leak from the French:

Stompa is one of the funniest model in the codex, with an infinite re-roll apparently on the gatling ... but the gun might stop working for the whole game too

920pts though

worth it

40PV


Is 40 wounds for 920 points worth it though? What are the stats on the gun? And what do you mean by infinite reroll?


sounds like the rule that was already leaked (I think) ... which says the 6s are rerolled, and the rerolls can be rerolled, etc ...

don't quote me though, I missed the details of the rule but that seems to be the intent

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Oh sweet jesus yes!

From French wargame studio:

Shockjump dragsta: 110

Kustom boosta blasta: 120 (yes it mispelled the name before.)

Squigbuggy: 140


The stompa is the coolest unit of the dex. The most fun unit from it's rules with the psycho boosta blasta. But it's still worth it. It's 920 points but with dakkadakkadakka and so much health it worth it. And there is a stratagem to make the 6+ explodes on 5+ instead! And better, it makes the auto hit on malus BS hit on 5+ too!
   
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Psychocouac wrote:
Oh sweet jesus yes!

From French wargame studio:

Shockjump dragsta: 110

Kustom boosta blasta: 120 (yes it mispelled the name before.)

Squigbuggy: 140


The stompa is the coolest unit of the dex. The most fun unit from it's rules with the psycho boosta blasta. But it's still worth it. It's 920 points but with dakkadakkadakka and so much health it worth it. And there is a stratagem to make the 6+ explodes on 5+ instead! And better, it makes the auto hit on malus BS hit on 5+ too!


Merci Psychocouac

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Psychocouac wrote:
Oh sweet jesus yes!

From French wargame studio:

Shockjump dragsta: 110

Kustom boosta blasta: 120 (yes it mispelled the name before.)

Squigbuggy: 140


The stompa is the coolest unit of the dex. The most fun unit from it's rules with the psycho boosta blasta. But it's still worth it. It's 920 points but with dakkadakkadakka and so much health it worth it. And there is a stratagem to make the 6+ explodes on 5+ instead! And better, it makes the auto hit on malus BS hit on 5+ too!


Well, I'm very happy to be proven wrong. The boosta-blasta is probably usable at 120.

Keep all the crap on the squigbuggy! Let the others be decent!

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Index only units will exist. If painboy on bike is index only that fine as he still has the <clan> Keyword.

As do the other index bike units.
   
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120 for the KBB still seems like 30-40 points too many but I guess we'll see after some testing.. Better than the absurd 140 at least

Edit: Then you gotta wonder why the KBB isn't 6PL, oh well. It's all part of lifes little mysteries I guess

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PDB would be especially fun if you can reroll the 2d6...at least once.

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I asked about the Shock Attack gun:

"It's not that expensive, something like 65~75 points. But it's really random with the 2D6." (2D6 shots i suppose.)

Codex review on saturday.

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Psychocouac wrote:
I asked about the Shock Attack gun:

"It's not that expensive, something like 65~75 points. But it's really random with the 2D6." (2D6 shots i suppose.)

A SAG has 2d6 Strength
   
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PiñaColada wrote:
Psychocouac wrote:
I asked about the Shock Attack gun:

"It's not that expensive, something like 65~75 points. But it's really random with the 2D6." (2D6 shots i suppose.)

A SAG has 2d6 Strength


Aw, maybe it's still 1D6 shot then. =/



He also said that the scrapjet is really good.
   
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Denver, Colorado

 JimOnMars wrote:
PDB would be especially fun if you can reroll the 2d6...at least once.


Also bear in mind that the supa-gatla is now 3D6 shots.

As for an infinite shots.........in the index, you get to shoot again if you roll a certain value. Maybe that value gets fixed, and as long as you roll above it, you shoot again?

Like, shoot 3D6, on a 2+ you shoot again. Then, on a 3+ you shoot again. Etc until it's a 6+ to shoot again, but you can always shoot again as long as you roll a 6. But if you don't make the roll you're out of ammo for the rest of the game.

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Maryland, US

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
 JimOnMars wrote:
PDB would be especially fun if you can reroll the 2d6...at least once.


Also bear in mind that the supa-gatla is now 3D6 shots.

As for an infinite shots.........in the index, you get to shoot again if you roll a certain value. Maybe that value gets fixed, and as long as you roll above it, you shoot again?


that's how I understood it ... check Psychocouac message though

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Psychocouac wrote:
PiñaColada wrote:
Psychocouac wrote:
I asked about the Shock Attack gun:

"It's not that expensive, something like 65~75 points. But it's really random with the 2D6." (2D6 shots i suppose.)

A SAG has 2d6 Strength


Aw, maybe it's still 1D6 shot then. =/



He also said that the scrapjet is really good.

Man, am I happy to hear that! My two favorite buggies, the dragsta and the skrapjet, both looking viable. Itz a good 'un ladz
   
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Denver, Colorado

Psychocouac wrote:
I asked about the Shock Attack gun:

"It's not that expensive, something like 65~75 points. But it's really random with the 2D6." (2D6 shots i suppose.)

Codex review on saturday.


SAGs are already like 65 points. The problem is that 1D6 @ orky BS is hot garbage. 2D6 shots would be an improvement.

And I KNOW there's someone out there in the world with the ork codex in their hand. One day soon, the other hand is going to have a camera in it.

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 nflagey wrote:
Leak from the French:

Stompa is one of the funniest model in the codex, with an infinite re-roll apparently on the gatling ... but the gun might stop working for the whole game too

920pts though

worth it

40PV


920pts doesn't sound fun, because even with the rules/weapons we've seen it'll still never get used :/

People have correctly stated that it is objectively worse than a knight that costs half that.
   
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 Kap'n Krump wrote:

And I KNOW there's someone out there in the world with the ork codex in their hand. One day soon, the other hand is going to have a camera in it.


Be sure i'll be here to "translate" saturday when the video comes up. My english is average but i'm so hype you'll have a full report as soon as it goes live. (or even before if someone else has seen some leaks. I-JUST-WANT-TO-KNOW! )
   
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Vigo. Spain.

Only GW could take a horrible mode like the Stompa, give it buffs and make it even more expensive.

GW, if something is really, really bad, you make it cheaper or give it buffs. If you give it buffs and then make it more expensive is like you didn't did anything, unless the buffs are so big the increase in price is deserved.
I doubt it. 920 points. Half an army. I can't see a Stompa being worth that.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

ERJAK wrote:
Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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Just a general FYI, on the saturday that codex preorders go up we've always had the youtube channels WintersSEO and Strikingscorpion82 do youtube reviews. However, they might not show enough actual stats for them to be useful but all the stratagems are revealed and unit abilities are usually talked about
   
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crzylgs wrote:
 nflagey wrote:
Leak from the French:

Stompa is one of the funniest model in the codex, with an infinite re-roll apparently on the gatling ... but the gun might stop working for the whole game too

920pts though

worth it

40PV


920pts doesn't sound fun, because even with the rules/weapons we've seen it'll still never get used :/

People have correctly stated that it is objectively worse than a knight that costs half that.


I don't know. With the stratagem that boost dakkadakkadakka it might be quite scary? Exploding 5 and 6 and no malus modifier? And Bad moons? If someone better than me in math could make the stats. ^^"
   
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Squigbuggy appears to have been both designed and priced by the people in this thread constantly saying that averages don't matter with random combinations of dice rolls.

It appears the design team was perhaps more impressed with the numbers leading the D6 count than their actual casualty output. Because that points cost couldnt have come from play testing.

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 TedNugent wrote:
Squigbuggy appears to have been both designed and priced by the people in this thread constantly saying that averages don't matter with random combinations of dice rolls.

It appears the design team was perhaps more impressed with the numbers leading the D6 count than their actual casualty output. Because that points cost couldnt have come from play testing.

Perhaps they decided on the price by rolling a d200?
   
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Psychocouac wrote:
crzylgs wrote:
 nflagey wrote:
Leak from the French:

Stompa is one of the funniest model in the codex, with an infinite re-roll apparently on the gatling ... but the gun might stop working for the whole game too

920pts though

worth it

40PV


920pts doesn't sound fun, because even with the rules/weapons we've seen it'll still never get used :/

People have correctly stated that it is objectively worse than a knight that costs half that.


I don't know. With the stratagem that boost dakkadakkadakka it might be quite scary? Exploding 5 and 6 and no malus modifier? And Bad moons? If someone better than me in math could make the stats. ^^"


And then the gun stops working because that's how GW 'balance' Orks. Fun. Right?

Seriously though, I can't see how it can have enough Dakka to justify 920 points. When currently its not worth even half of that.
   
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Stompa is still over 900pts?
ugh...better have buffed the crap out of it. 40hp sounds like a lot but thats still not that tough to take down when its pretty much the only big thing to fire all the high damage guns at.

Also why is it always French leaks anyway? ive noticed that across ALL the games i play...its always a french leak lol

An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.

14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys 
   
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PiñaColada wrote:
 TedNugent wrote:
Squigbuggy appears to have been both designed and priced by the people in this thread constantly saying that averages don't matter with random combinations of dice rolls.

It appears the design team was perhaps more impressed with the numbers leading the D6 count than their actual casualty output. Because that points cost couldnt have come from play testing.

Perhaps they decided on the price by rolling a d200?


Well done Sir. That earned an IRL chuckle.

I didn't know you could get d1000 but totally explains the Stompa
   
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So sad about the stompa, in this age of gw “listening” to player feedback surely they must understand how badly it is costed, has no one told them?

Unless all the other superheavies are going up in points in ca!

   
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Ugh, my heart sinks since I REALLY want to use the Stompa without completely shooting myself in the foot, but it seems like I'll have to find a narrative game that makes it more palatable to use as usual. I find it baffling that GW can make IK usable, but god forbid a xenos equivalent be anywhere close to the same utility as them.
   
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crzylgs wrote:

And then the gun stops working because that's how GW 'balance' Orks. Fun. Right?

Seriously though, I can't see how it can have enough Dakka to justify 920 points. When currently its not worth even half of that.


The gatling can be either terribad or awesome, it's really total random with the PDB rule but the deffkanon is great and won't stop shooting no?

So with stratagem a shooting phase on the Stompa is:

3D6 gatling shots exploding 5 exploding 6 reroll 1 for bad moons and sees if the gun fire again or not. If it fire again there is still exploding 5 and 6 and reroll 1.

1D6 suppa rokket exploding 5 & 6 reroll 1.

3D6 deffkanon exploding 5 & 6 reroll 1.

We clearly won't be to the damage output of a raven castellan don't make me wrong but it doesn't seem bad either. The thing seems tankier. Close combat is good too but it depend on the health remaining cause the last table is WS6+ and 3A... I don't know it needs testing i think.
   
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crewe

i think i would prefer that better version of dakkadakkadakka (lets call it MOAR DAKKA!) on a big unit of snakebite tankbustas. I just find monster hunters too good of a stratagem to pass up.

With two units of 10 shooting a knight, one with MOAR DAKKA! (better be 1 CP like everyone elses shooting stratagems (except grey knight lol..)) popped and also with Monster Hunters. The thing should be going down.

If someone could work out the averages that would be sweet

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Denver, Colorado

Come now, boyz. Did anyone really expect geedubz to make stompas usable?

Next you'll be surprised when deff dreads continue to be horrible!

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