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 Lord Clinto wrote:

Dandelion wrote:
Rough riders. More specifically I'd like to see them expanded into their own organization (similar to scions) with a couple units
Example:
- Lancers: armed with boom lances, hot-shot laspistols and chainswords (sarge can take power sword)
- Dragoons: armed with hotshot lasguns and laspistols (or something similar)
- Mounted commander and command squad: gives orders and has a sweet flag (all have power swords and hot shot laspistols)
- Mounted commissar

The rough rider regiments would essentially be elite regiments with BS 3+ and WS 3+.
Rules-wise they can fit into any guard detachment, but get a bonus if taken as their own detachment (like scions).

I agree with Rough Riders but would be completely open to bikers now that the GSC have them.

Rough Rider fluff states they ride indigenous animals , be they horse, big cat, wolf or giant lizard. On a hive world, with no indigenous species, bikes from the manufacturum is reasonable. I'm up for them being their own organization.

Cyprien wrote:A more modern battle tank. I like the Russ, but something at least ww2 looking would be awesome.

And rules to effectively play mechanised light infantry or light infantry in general >_>

Why are some people (or maybe just one?) of the oppinion to get rid of the HWTs? There effective and realistic (enough).

Regarding the female guard bodies: Forcing people to buy mixed boxes is the same as not providing the opportunity for mixed regiments. Both ways you force someone to play and pay for something they don't want.
It just seems better, because if someone is complaining about being forced to play female toysoldiers you can call him a bigot and mysoginist.
A male box and a female box would be swell.
You don't even need female boxes for all regiments. There is enough lore (and enough reality) to justify all male or all female armies.
Or something like the DKoK. Just because you can't see the breasts, doesn't mean there are no female soldiers under the uniform and greatcoat.

Well, going 5 and 5 is important on a higher level to normalize the appearance of woman soldiers as "ordinary". I would expect them to not b amazonian or have breast-shaped FlaK armor, and fundamentally just come down to a little dimension changes that the little dudes need anyway and a sergeant head. The dress-coated officers and tank commanders would be more visibly different, but we need more tank commander dolls anyway, my tanks are starting to look samey since I'm out of extra tat to give them to make them look unique.

Kroem wrote:

I like the Cadians!

Haha sorry I guess I'm just sick of seeing them everywhere. They aren't that bad.

I can see the point about spitting sales between boxes, although it seems to work OK for marines. But more boxes means more sculpts, more granularity, more choice... that's the agenda i'm pushing .

Another thing that occurred to me is that since the 'Armageddon pattern' stuff we haven't seen kits for the sensible variations in standard equipment across the galaxy. Imagine an 'aqua pattern' chimera that is a hovercraft or a 'speed pattern' sentinel that is on three wheels!

More choice doesn't equal more profit. If we want female guardsmen at all, it can only be in a mixed box.

Look at it this way: a fixed number of Infantry boxes will be sold a year. Most of the cost of a miniature, as I understand it, is upfront in the development cost of making the sculpt and cutting the die. Hence, having a male and a female box halves the total infantry-based profit. Having multiple regiment aesthetic boxes does so as well, but you can theoretically get additional people to pick up guard or something, and splitting it a little isn't too bad, but splitting it 6 ways would be pretty undesirable.

I already suspect that a new IG Cadian or Catachan box wouldn't actually be profitable, since I frequently get the impression from both me and my fellows that we're pretty saturated on infantry, and IG is a demanding army to start.



I would like to see more decorations for my tanks and commanders, and I would like to see more vehicles. A Stug/SU option like the Destroyer Tank Hunter would have my buying a squadron right away, so would a Medusa Siege Gun. Another cool thing I could see myself buying are split-trail medium divisional guns [heavier than a Lascannon, lighter than a Earthshaker]

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

Well, going 5 and 5 is important on a higher level to normalize the appearance of woman soldiers as "ordinary". I would expect them to not b amazonian or have breast-shaped FlaK armor, and fundamentally just come down to a little dimension changes that the little dudes need anyway and a sergeant head. The dress-coated officers and tank commanders would be more visibly different, but we need more tank commander dolls anyway, my tanks are starting to look samey since I'm out of extra tat to give them to make them look unique.

Ya know Black stone has a fem guardsmen (the traitor type already) or at least a more feminine guardsmen



id expect them to look like that.

Felinid. The guard need to go to Carlos McConnell and recruit. Failing that, any abhuman not already included.

I'm sure female guard are coming soon (maybe a year or two), i need some too.

A basic infantry kit for each of the regiments is all I've wanted for a long time.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
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More choice doesn't equal more profit. If we want female guardsmen at all, it can only be in a mixed box.

This is a wishlisting thread, I'm not writing a business case! More choice is better for modelling

More abhumans is a cool idea, maybe they could be tall and gangly like the skinnies in the starship trooper cartoon.

Gitdakka da Sly, Deffskull Supreme Loota (warboss statline). Can be taken as an HQ choice, allows you to take Ork detachments as if they have the <Imperium> keyword. At the start of the battle replace all <Imperium> keywords in units, equipment and stratagems with <Orks>. Looted soup!

shortymcnostrill wrote:
Gitdakka da Sly, Deffskull Supreme Loota (warboss statline). Can be taken as an HQ choice, allows you to take Ork detachments as if they have the <Imperium> keyword. At the start of the battle replace all <Imperium> keywords in units, equipment and stratagems with <Orks>. Looted soup!

Better option, gives them all keyword <freebooter>. Can't remember the edition, but it used to be that Freebooters could take anyone, any race or species. My Catachan still have the green tattoos

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

Cyprien wrote:A more modern battle tank. I like the Russ, but something at least ww2 looking would be awesome.

And rules to effectively play mechanised light infantry or light infantry in general >_>

Why are some people (or maybe just one?) of the oppinion to get rid of the HWTs? There effective and realistic (enough).

Regarding the female guard bodies: Forcing people to buy mixed boxes is the same as not providing the opportunity for mixed regiments. Both ways you force someone to play and pay for something they don't want.
It just seems better, because if someone is complaining about being forced to play female toysoldiers you can call him a bigot and mysoginist.
A male box and a female box would be swell.
You don't even need female boxes for all regiments. There is enough lore (and enough reality) to justify all male or all female armies.
Or something like the DKoK. Just because you can't see the breasts, doesn't mean there are no female soldiers under the uniform and greatcoat.

Well, going 5 and 5 is important on a higher level to normalize the appearance of woman soldiers as "ordinary". I would expect them to not b amazonian or have breast-shaped FlaK armor, and fundamentally just come down to a little dimension changes that the little dudes need anyway and a sergeant head. The dress-coated officers and tank commanders would be more visibly different, but we need more tank commander dolls anyway, my tanks are starting to look samey since I'm out of extra tat to give them to make them look unique.

Kroem wrote:

I like the Cadians!

Haha sorry I guess I'm just sick of seeing them everywhere. They aren't that bad.

I can see the point about spitting sales between boxes, although it seems to work OK for marines. But more boxes means more sculpts, more granularity, more choice... that's the agenda i'm pushing .

Another thing that occurred to me is that since the 'Armageddon pattern' stuff we haven't seen kits for the sensible variations in standard equipment across the galaxy. Imagine an 'aqua pattern' chimera that is a hovercraft or a 'speed pattern' sentinel that is on three wheels!

More choice doesn't equal more profit. If we want female guardsmen at all, it can only be in a mixed box.

Look at it this way: a fixed number of Infantry boxes will be sold a year. Most of the cost of a miniature, as I understand it, is upfront in the development cost of making the sculpt and cutting the die. Hence, having a male and a female box halves the total infantry-based profit. Having multiple regiment aesthetic boxes does so as well, but you can theoretically get additional people to pick up guard or something, and splitting it a little isn't too bad, but splitting it 6 ways would be pretty undesirable.

I already suspect that a new IG Cadian or Catachan box wouldn't actually be profitable, since I frequently get the impression from both me and my fellows that we're pretty saturated on infantry, and IG is a demanding army to start.



I would like to see more decorations for my tanks and commanders, and I would like to see more vehicles. A Stug/SU option like the Destroyer Tank Hunter would have my buying a squadron right away, so would a Medusa Siege Gun. Another cool thing I could see myself buying are split-trail medium divisional guns [heavier than a Lascannon, lighter than a Earthshaker]

With improved tooling and what not, I can't imagine GW not being able to shove an ungodly amount of male, female, helmeted male and female, and face masked heads onto a sprue, in a similar vein to the Tempestus Scions Box. That came with more than enough heads.

Beastmen Guardsmen. I know it sounds strange, but back around 30K, they were fully integrated members of the Army. If the Guard can tolerate the semi-sapient Ogryns and the unbearable Ratlings, I don't see why some guys with horns and fur couldn't be used as well.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

More choice doesn't equal more profit. If we want female guardsmen at all, it can only be in a mixed box.

Look at it this way: a fixed number of Infantry boxes will be sold a year. Most of the cost of a miniature, as I understand it, is upfront in the development cost of making the sculpt and cutting the die. Hence, having a male and a female box halves the total infantry-based profit. Having multiple regiment aesthetic boxes does so as well, but you can theoretically get additional people to pick up guard or something, and splitting it a little isn't too bad, but splitting it 6 ways would be pretty undesirable.

I already suspect that a new IG Cadian or Catachan box wouldn't actually be profitable, since I frequently get the impression from both me and my fellows that we're pretty saturated on infantry, and IG is a demanding army to start.



I would like to see more decorations for my tanks and commanders, and I would like to see more vehicles. A Stug/SU option like the Destroyer Tank Hunter would have my buying a squadron right away, so would a Medusa Siege Gun. Another cool thing I could see myself buying are split-trail medium divisional guns [heavier than a Lascannon, lighter than a Earthshaker]

How about a pair of guard boxes, set at five each. They can be made as one spreu and sold at half the price of the normal squad. You'd have to buy twice as many, but at half the price each it works out the same, and it gives a person the option of only buying the one they want.

Having said that, I'm fine with the mixed box personally, and have no issue ebaying the half I don't want.

Bring back artillery options other than the basilisk.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:
Beastmen Guardsmen. I know it sounds strange, but back around 30K, they were fully integrated members of the Army. If the Guard can tolerate the semi-sapient Ogryns and the unbearable Ratlings, I don't see why some guys with horns and fur couldn't be used as well.

That would be amazing, Victoria miniatures does a very cool beastman model but it would be even better to have an official effort with some special rules!

Having said that, I'm fine with the mixed box personally, and have no issue ebaying the half I don't want.

I really need to give Ebay a go, I have some stuff lying around that I don't need but it seems a bit scary setting up an Ebay shop...

Motorcycle rough riders, and a unit rework to actually make them useful and unique.

Rough Riders are and always have been a garbage concept.

The Jackal Alphus is something that the Guard should have gotten first: a scout unit with access to a sniper rifle and a way to reposition quickly while also allowing for nearby units to get a ballistic skill boost.

Adeptus Arbites?

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Adeptus Arbites?

They aren't Guard, so why the hell should we get them in our book?

That's for Agents of the Imperium or Kill Team not 40k proper.

FW-style platforms for Earthshakers and mortars and such.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Adeptus Arbites?

They aren't Guard, so why the hell should we get them in our book?

That's for Agents of the Imperium or Kill Team not 40k proper.

Ok, calm down. I am sorry if I offended you with my opinion about what I wanted. Also, my second answer would be nothing. The IG codex is as bloated as two codex, with 75% of book never seeing the light of day.

You didn't "offend", it's just weird to ask for a whole new faction in a book that's already bloated.

 deotrims 16th wrote:
So what model if you could only get one made, would you ask for the Imperial guard, for GW to make, so it could be a plastic version of a FW model. If it is a completely new model what would rough stats be.

Its been talked about to death (no pun intended) but my wish would be Female Cadian troops (and I dont mean angry looking nuns, a-la Sisters). More like:
http://img02.deviantart.net/15dc/i/2012/281/2/c/imperial_guard_by_thepwa-d5h5qjf.jpg

If GW ever conceded such a thing, they would finally get my hard earned money....and lots of it.

Ciaphas Cain & Jurgen

Towed/manhandled guns would be nice -something like the old rapier of tarantula gun platforms.

I’d also like to see a Taurus-style buggie/FAV. We could then have armed races between orks, GSC and IG (ala Speed Freaks).

I like the idea of bikes, but I also would,’t be opposed to Rough riders on native beasts. Killer ostriches, giant lizards, mutant giant rats, giant bats or anything other than bog-standard Earth horses. If they did horses, give them some fantastic element - bionic, six-legged, Fire-breathing, winged, autocannon in the forehead - something.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Well, going 5 and 5 is important on a higher level to normalize the appearance of woman soldiers as "ordinary". I would expect them to not b amazonian or have breast-shaped FlaK armor (...)

I agree. Thats more or less what CB has done over the years (the odd ridiculous pose notwithstanding) and indeed gender parity is simply assumed in their universe.

I think anatomically correct armor would be appropriate though. In fact, just the other day I read a story about how female cops and soldiers are having issues precisely because they have to wear protective gear which, literally, doesn't fit them.

More and newer plastics for many of the regiments, or a sort of mix and match build your own set that can make many regts. in one.

Some character models, not named ones, just ones that are a bit more interesting than the current command squad one.

Darn Gene stealer cults got what I wanted: A light mechanized strike force.


I would also second some add-on pack for greatcoats, so many armies could use this.

A fair one. It's a lot to ask in 8th, i know.

Martel732 wrote:
A fair one. It's a lot to ask in 8th, i know.

Yeah, Deathstrikes could use a buff.

I believe one challenge with developing new models (and consequently new rules and background) for the IG/AM is that any real innovation can easily be seen as infringing on the territory of other factions.

The faction pitch for the IG/AM is paradoxically inflexiable: Lots of cheap and weak infantry backed up by a select number of slow and powerful vehicles. While a great deal of aesthetic varation is possible, you can't really expand beyond the inital pitch without encroaching on the style of different factions, be they Imperium or otherwise: Too much stealth/mobilty; that's for the Genestealer cults, Unmanned Vehicles and Robots; Admech got you covered.

Martel732 wrote:
A fair one. It's a lot to ask in 8th, i know.

You've not got a chip on your shoulder, dude - you've got an entire sack of potatoes.

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For me, it would be the mythical Greatcoat Guard infantry set(s) - ideally done in such a way that Krieg/Valhallan/Armageddon units can be made out of the kit, even if Krieg might need a FW head upgrade pack.

The Heavy Weapon sprue is fine, so you're looking at a PBI kit, a Heavy Weapon Gunner small frame, and a command frame. Keep the parts between these interchangable for variety, and use some of the dead space in the current Cadian/Catachan sprues for the parts to make both regiments - and maybe making sure a PBI squad comes with one of each special weapon.

Oh, and if you're doing those bayonet/canteen/pouch bits, do enough so if you build everyone with lasguns, the number with and without sheathed bayonets matches the lasgun arms - that was one thing that bugged me with the recent Cadian Conscripts I put together, as you end up with one too many with a bayonet in the scabbard compared to the lasgun arms. A minor thing, but one that could be amended.